Micro 1089: the coalition, again [game over]

Micro Games (9 players or fewer). Archived during the 2023 queue overhaul.
User avatar
Thestatusquo
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

User avatar
User avatar
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

Shea

Posts: 14381
Joined: July 27, 2006
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: Chicago!

Post Post #3450 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:02 am

Post by Thestatusquo »

I'm giving hellbooks credit for that being a direct comment on how twitters worldview makes little sense and combining it with her words about herself so I'm hoping that's the case.
tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner
User avatar
Thestatusquo
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

User avatar
User avatar
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

Shea

Posts: 14381
Joined: July 27, 2006
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: Chicago!

Post Post #3451 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:03 am

Post by Thestatusquo »

skitters worldview, though twitters worldview certainly also doesnt make sense.
tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner
User avatar
hellbooks
hellbooks
She
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
hellbooks
She
Goon
Goon
Posts: 1984
Joined: May 15, 2020
Pronoun: She

Post Post #3452 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:05 am

Post by hellbooks »

You should approach all of my posts with a "death of the author" attitude (by which i mean you should read them and think "wow the author of this post should get limmed")
User avatar
Isis
Isis
she/her, not they
Best in Class
User avatar
User avatar
Isis
she/her, not they
Best in Class
Best in Class
Posts: 11222
Joined: April 6, 2020
Pronoun: she/her, not they
Location: Seattle

Post Post #3453 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:05 am

Post by Isis »

Ari should I vote skitter
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
User avatar
Isis
Isis
she/her, not they
Best in Class
User avatar
User avatar
Isis
she/her, not they
Best in Class
Best in Class
Posts: 11222
Joined: April 6, 2020
Pronoun: she/her, not they
Location: Seattle

Post Post #3454 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:06 am

Post by Isis »

This game is stress
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
User avatar
Isis
Isis
she/her, not they
Best in Class
User avatar
User avatar
Isis
she/her, not they
Best in Class
Best in Class
Posts: 11222
Joined: April 6, 2020
Pronoun: she/her, not they
Location: Seattle

Post Post #3455 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:06 am

Post by Isis »

VOTE: skitter
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
User avatar
Isis
Isis
she/her, not they
Best in Class
User avatar
User avatar
Isis
she/her, not they
Best in Class
Best in Class
Posts: 11222
Joined: April 6, 2020
Pronoun: she/her, not they
Location: Seattle

Post Post #3456 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:06 am

Post by Isis »

Feels bad
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
User avatar
Isis
Isis
she/her, not they
Best in Class
User avatar
User avatar
Isis
she/her, not they
Best in Class
Best in Class
Posts: 11222
Joined: April 6, 2020
Pronoun: she/her, not they
Location: Seattle

Post Post #3457 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:06 am

Post by Isis »

Why isn't it 9town
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
User avatar
Thestatusquo
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

User avatar
User avatar
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

Shea

Posts: 14381
Joined: July 27, 2006
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: Chicago!

Post Post #3458 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:08 am

Post by Thestatusquo »

In post 3452, hellbooks wrote: You should approach all of my posts with a "death of the author" attitude (by which i mean you should read them and think "wow the author of this post should get limmed")
a lot of people talk about the death of the artist but not that many talk about the death of the fartist.
tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner
User avatar
Aristeia
Aristeia
She
Survivor
User avatar
User avatar
Aristeia
She
Survivor
Survivor
Posts: 10219
Joined: July 17, 2021
Pronoun: She

Post Post #3459 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:12 am

Post by Aristeia »

do you feel better about sheep?
You are always gonna be my love
User avatar
Isis
Isis
she/her, not they
Best in Class
User avatar
User avatar
Isis
she/her, not they
Best in Class
Best in Class
Posts: 11222
Joined: April 6, 2020
Pronoun: she/her, not they
Location: Seattle

Post Post #3460 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:16 am

Post by Isis »

I don't feel good about anyone being scum except fire
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
User avatar
hellbooks
hellbooks
She
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
hellbooks
She
Goon
Goon
Posts: 1984
Joined: May 15, 2020
Pronoun: She

Post Post #3461 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:18 am

Post by hellbooks »

In post 324, schadd_ wrote:
APPENDIX AImage
Tossing in this image created by schadd feel free to replace the captions with something that captures the three competing wagons with an adequate amount of humor
User avatar
Isis
Isis
she/her, not they
Best in Class
User avatar
User avatar
Isis
she/her, not they
Best in Class
Best in Class
Posts: 11222
Joined: April 6, 2020
Pronoun: she/her, not they
Location: Seattle

Post Post #3462 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:26 am

Post by Isis »

If I was clever I could determine something about the gamestate based on there being too many wagons
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
User avatar
Thestatusquo
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

User avatar
User avatar
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

Shea

Posts: 14381
Joined: July 27, 2006
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: Chicago!

Post Post #3463 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:27 am

Post by Thestatusquo »

the fact that there were two competing counterwagons makes it more likely tris is scum but I dont believe in wagonomics.
tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner
User avatar
Thestatusquo
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

User avatar
User avatar
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

Shea

Posts: 14381
Joined: July 27, 2006
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: Chicago!

Post Post #3464 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:28 am

Post by Thestatusquo »

It makes it slightly less likely that skitter is scum because if she were we likely would have seen movement back to tris instead of to a new wagon.

But again wagonomics is utterly flawed.
tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner
User avatar
hellbooks
hellbooks
She
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
hellbooks
She
Goon
Goon
Posts: 1984
Joined: May 15, 2020
Pronoun: She

Post Post #3465 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:28 am

Post by hellbooks »

lets explore the wutheringness of a skitbooks theory where theres a trolley coming towards her and my pre-coal vote is the lever
User avatar
Thestatusquo
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

User avatar
User avatar
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

Shea

Posts: 14381
Joined: July 27, 2006
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: Chicago!

Post Post #3466 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:28 am

Post by Thestatusquo »

sheep is the least likely to be scum of the three based on pure wagon considerations.
tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner
User avatar
hellbooks
hellbooks
She
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
hellbooks
She
Goon
Goon
Posts: 1984
Joined: May 15, 2020
Pronoun: She

Post Post #3467 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:29 am

Post by hellbooks »

trolleynomics
User avatar
hellbooks
hellbooks
She
Goon
User avatar
User avatar
hellbooks
She
Goon
Goon
Posts: 1984
Joined: May 15, 2020
Pronoun: She

Post Post #3468 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:30 am

Post by hellbooks »

no in that universe they'd call it trolleyology for sure
User avatar
Isis
Isis
she/her, not they
Best in Class
User avatar
User avatar
Isis
she/her, not they
Best in Class
Best in Class
Posts: 11222
Joined: April 6, 2020
Pronoun: she/her, not they
Location: Seattle

Post Post #3469 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:31 am

Post by Isis »

Are you calculating based on my status as confscum
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
User avatar
Thestatusquo
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

User avatar
User avatar
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

Shea

Posts: 14381
Joined: July 27, 2006
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: Chicago!

Post Post #3470 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:32 am

Post by Thestatusquo »

no.
tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner
User avatar
Isis
Isis
she/her, not they
Best in Class
User avatar
User avatar
Isis
she/her, not they
Best in Class
Best in Class
Posts: 11222
Joined: April 6, 2020
Pronoun: she/her, not they
Location: Seattle

Post Post #3471 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:36 am

Post by Isis »

It helps to make simplifyibg assumptions for instance I assume ari is town and I assume tris is my scumpartner
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
User avatar
Thestatusquo
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

User avatar
User avatar
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

Shea

Posts: 14381
Joined: July 27, 2006
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: Chicago!

Post Post #3472 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:39 am

Post by Thestatusquo »

You are asking simply what the wagonomics would say.

If you want to make further assumptions you're free to do so.

For what its worth I think that one of the ways analysis of wagons goes wrong is the person doing said analysis makes heavy assumptions about the game state outside of what is actually know. I think another way it frequently goes wrong is people use it as a determinative measure rather than a probabilistic measure, and a low probability one at that.

I'm answering earnestly because I don't know how else to respond to this bit at this point and I really don't like it.
tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner
User avatar
Thestatusquo
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

User avatar
User avatar
Thestatusquo
He/Him
Shea

Shea

Posts: 14381
Joined: July 27, 2006
Pronoun: He/Him
Location: Chicago!

Post Post #3473 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:40 am

Post by Thestatusquo »

*outside of what is actually known that should say and should further clarify that I think one of the major assumptions people make is that scum would do x or y in a certain wagon state when in my experience frequently these are percentage calls rather than absolutes which feeds into my second critique of the overall process.

Or something.
tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner
User avatar
tris
tris
she
Splatoon Tetris
User avatar
User avatar
tris
she
Splatoon Tetris
Splatoon Tetris
Posts: 5723
Joined: January 7, 2019
Pronoun: she
Location: tris

Post Post #3474 (ISO) » Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:42 am

Post by tris »

i have the power
here's what it says

Return to “Mayfair Club [Micro Games]”