Veiled Committee Mafia: List Mods Edition [game over]

[AniX]

I am a newbie to any or all specific elements and jargon that has emerged since 2005 and I wanted to warn people that I would not be playing in a very "modern" way. I am not a newbie to the basic tenets and calculations of Mafia such that I would not understand the costs, benefits, and risks of having and using two votes.

u r not answering that questionnaire for honest reasons.

I was very open that I was answering the questionnaire because I believe it relates to a trigger of Sky. You can even read about it in the post you quoted the LAST time you quoted me.

[Alisae]

reading boring
murder fun

[Cook]

reading boring
murder fun

SO TRUE

VOTE: Bingle
VOTE: AniX

[DkKoba]

tbh bingle with anix is exactly the level 1 combo that gives me pause if it's not too easy and they're just kinda just happening to hit those notes rn, but it's not like for anix that they've attempted to be any more open about their reasoning (although to be fair players are readable beyond this but certain ways of going about this make me doubt this? Like one has to wonder how I went from one of anix's top townreads into a scumread that is a vote coincidentally after I clarified my stance on them.)
Like the argument that I white knighted dragoneater doesn't really hold up bc I said the slot was obvtown b4 anyone pushed it

In fact it's odd that anix was not curious about that either bc where did that peogrssion go like why did the read just change and nothing that looks unresolved from a pov of someone starting to suspect our 2 slots makes sense from a genuine pov

[Cook]

oops typo

VOTE: AniX

content please

[DkKoba]

peogression

[Alisae]

I think Cook spiritually vibes w/ me

[DkKoba]

I think Cook spiritually vibes w/ me

if anix mafia we got a towncore of StD, you, me, cook, and dragoneater ez game

I think theta is pretty obviously town bc of that role madness town vibe where townies will sometimes talk about their role in a way that's just super natural and genuine. (The geneal lean is always that in a role madness game, townies with not OP roles will be open about their role, and mafia will be closed about their role unless they got some part that can be proven and can seem townie)

[Cook]

off the top of my head, here’s people i think have been making an impact and in what order

Koba
AniX
Alisae
Fenrir
DragonEater
Bingle
Ranger
Theta
CamelCasedSnivy
Ircher
KKFC

if i am missing your name you haven’t posted recently or i straight up forgot you existed

[Cook]

hoping i’m not some sort of hindrance to towncore

[Cook]

pedit that last post was a reply to this

I think Cook spiritually vibes w/ me

if anix mafia we got a towncore of StD, you, me, cook, and dragoneater ez game

[AniX]

tbh bingle with anix is exactly the level 1 combo that gives me pause if it's not too easy and they're just kinda just happening to hit those notes rn, but it's not like for anix that they've attempted to be any more open about their reasoning (although to be fair players are readable beyond this but certain ways of going about this make me doubt this? Like one has to wonder how I went from one of anix's top townreads into a scumread that is a vote coincidentally after I clarified my stance on them.)
Like the argument that I white knighted dragoneater doesn't really hold up bc I said the slot was obvtown b4 anyone pushed it

In fact it's odd that anix was not curious about that either bc where did that peogrssion go like why did the read just change and nothing that looks unresolved from a pov of someone starting to suspect our 2 slots makes sense from a genuine pov

I think it has been pretty well established that I am not going off vibes and reads of tone or trying to read posts from "scum/town pov" but with an eye to reading people's roles and seeing how their roles fit their posting and why someone with that role would post in one way or the other. You can certainly criticize that as bad play. But that is very different from "AniX is scum because he isn't playing the game the same as me". When I made the list, I didn't yet have a feel for what your role was and I WAS going off vibes. Once I had a feel for your role, I started using that instead. The read didn't change, the thing I was reading changed.

[DkKoba]

I know solving mechs is cringe *but* I think the miller claims are town too inherently, like Ranger, bc of the mechanic of role submission implies that with this many coincidences, a single listmod submitted those roles and ergo since they can only submit 1 mafia role then you can't have 2 of the same theme generally.

Lilith, tbone and PP give me the vibe they'd do a themed set of roles. ss is totally the type to do more cheeky normalish roles and idk implosion he might have a freaky side

I'm like certain the role I have is from Tbone based on its name fwiw and so are the other ones(we can potentially pool some roles via naming mechanics too)

[Alisae]

if anix mafia we got a towncore of StD, you, me, cook, and dragoneater ez game

you should be adding aureal, katy, and probably skygazer to that townbloc

[AniX]

Me: "I am deciding things based on what I believe people's roles are"
You: "But why haven't you considered DragonEater's vibes?"
Me: "I do not believe that is a valuable criteria at this point and in this game."
You, later: "Really weird AniX hasn't explained why the vibes randomly changed for me and why he was not curious about other vibe-based criteria"

[DkKoba]

if anix mafia we got a towncore of StD, you, me, cook, and dragoneater ez game

you should be adding aureal, katy, and probably skygazer to that townbloc

im kinda on the fence on skygazer being town at all, idk about Katy yet(honestly leaned mafia on that slot mostly but i had bigger fish to look at), aureal maybe but idt they reach the bar for towncore yet

[Alisae]

Koba I'm not going to be reading dragoneater's posts until I have to.
Nothing personal, guy just gives me a headache. Reminds me of playing w/ Math and nancy drew in a way.

It's like what

std ali koba aureal cook
dragoneater
ranger skygazer katy
everyone else (drew nurse

@XYZZY PLZ UPDATE YOUR OP WITH REPLACEMENTS) jason theta ircher)
anix bingle

[Alisae]

if anix mafia we got a towncore of StD, you, me, cook, and dragoneater ez game

you should be adding aureal, katy, and probably skygazer to that townbloc

im kinda on the fence on skygazer being town at all, idk about Katy yet(honestly leaned mafia on that slot mostly but i had bigger fish to look at), aureal maybe but idt they reach the bar for towncore yet

none of these players are being voted d1 so /shrug

[Cook]

i think if katykim posted more he’d be in the same place as me

[Alisae]

also lmao i forgot to close my bold tags but i also don't rly care sry xyzzy

[Cook]

maybe. that was also starting gate fluff.

idk he’s just not posting

[Cook]

also lmao i forgot to close my bold tags but i also don't rly care sry xyzzy

sometimes you just gotta shout

[Alisae]

ya katy aureal dragon all def bleed town the longer game goes on
skygazer is a bit more tricky but they're not being voted d1 so I'm happy calling them town for now!

[Doctor Drew]

I think Cook spiritually vibes w/ me

if anix mafia we got a towncore of StD, you, me, cook, and dragoneater ez game

I think theta is pretty obviously town bc of that role madness town vibe where townies will sometimes talk about their role in a way that's just super natural and genuine. (The geneal lean is always that in a role madness game, townies with not OP roles will be open about their role, and mafia will be closed about their role unless they got some part that can be proven and can seem townie)

I read this quickly as you talking about yourself, not Theta.....was gonna say lol.

off the top of my head, here’s people i think have been making an impact and in what order

Koba
AniX
Alisae
Fenrir
DragonEater
Bingle
Ranger
Theta
CamelCasedSnivy
Ircher
KKFC

if i am missing your name you haven’t posted recently or i straight up forgot you existed

I see how it is....

I know solving mechs is cringe *but* I think the miller claims are town too inherently, like Ranger, bc of the mechanic of role submission implies that with this many coincidences, a single listmod submitted those roles and ergo since they can only submit 1 mafia role then you can't have 2 of the same theme generally.

Lilith, tbone and PP give me the vibe they'd do a themed set of roles. ss is totally the type to do more cheeky normalish roles and idk implosion he might have a freaky side

I'm like certain the role I have is from Tbone based on its name fwiw and so are the other ones(we can potentially pool some roles via naming mechanics too)

Maybe I am reading this wrong, but what does it matter what list mid chose what?

[Alisae]

ranger's idea of massclaim is probably town motivated?