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[the worst]

i can't envision a towncase which outweighs your scum equity
i'm pretty null on dragons but i can see him as town
bob & gera are kinda equal to me i can see them as town but i'd have a field day if i was scum (sorry ilu both)
yeah, ckd has a decent towncase

[the worst]

makes a lot of sense as someone who's trying to win the game.

bro if i was scum, i literally just lost the game. i wouldn't really play to reach this gamestate if i was scum.

pretty low chance you were seeing this happening in f9 i'm ngl you've been arguing for your not being eliminated for ages

honestly though i think this is a bit, i'm just tryna jam with you for a bit like ~just in case~

[humaneatingmonkey]

okay, so what's your towncase on dragons?

[humaneatingmonkey]

makes a lot of sense as someone who's trying to win the game.

bro if i was scum, i literally just lost the game. i wouldn't really play to reach this gamestate if i was scum.

pretty low chance you were seeing this happening in f9 i'm ngl you've been arguing for your not being eliminated for ages

honestly though i think this is a bit, i'm just tryna jam with you for a bit like ~just in case~

it's real. i'm town. get over it.

i drove our gamestate. remember when bangle said my reads felt like declaring a gamestate? it's because i had a lot of influence in eliminating two scum.

there is no towncase on std. the towncase on gerain is betting on him being simple, but that's not really a good bet to make.

[the worst]

aw man i just gave what i've got on town!dragons. if you're town this is kinda the issue. like i'm down to go deeper but your scumread on him kinda feels unsubstantiated and i don't think you're interested in hearing me out.

[humaneatingmonkey]

you didnt cite any town-indicative points for him, my man. your whole thing against scumreading him was "WAIT, IT COULDNT BE THIS SIMPLE"

[the worst]

whole thing was things that struck me as either unnatural for klick/dragons to do as scum, or things which were unnatural for flipped scum to do if klick/dragons was one of them. what else is a town case?

[humaneatingmonkey]

sorry, to be clear, which post numbers have your std towncase. the ones you cited last page?

[the worst]

i won't be able to write like an expansive town case on dragons for a few more hours (i'll do it in the mason chat before d5 i guess). i gave you the post numbers that struck me as potentially anti-aligned when i was doing my catchup. i guess i was hoping you'd expand on if there's more you're seeing, or if you think greeting/furtive spent the whole game bussing but just did nothing with their third member & botched a prolonged s/s interaction talking about the third scum member.

if you think that's all just meh and your scumcase on dragons stands, that's like, fine. i'm just hoping you have something a bit more insightful about what dragons/klick have done that's actually scum-aligned

[humaneatingmonkey]

i'll strike every things i see that aren't even town-indicative.

162 - i liked klick picking semantic fights about their daisy reads at clidd after clidd townread him.

not town-indicative. easy to do this more than you think.

328 - furtive says klick has "some towny stuff" which is.. like.. bad distancing

so? what if it is bad? not town-indicative.

500 - greeting asks furtive for reads on 4 players: self, el, klick, roden. in 520 - furtive asks "why those players?". in 597 greeting votes furtive for asking that. if... this includes the entire scumteam that feels like such a goofy way to fumble that conversation.

so what if they talked about 4 players? absolutely one of them could be scum, there's no reason not to include a scum name there. again, so what if it is goofy? it's not not indicative.

breaking up in case of shea

[humaneatingmonkey]

639 - if klick is scum, he has the entire scumteam in his null reads (gerain/greeting/furtive/hem null)

so? so what if he did this? not town-indicative.

647 - furtive answers greeting's question, his read on klick is pretty jank (but all his reads are jank).

again, a lot of this is you spotting something that should be a cause of concern and scamming yourself that just because it's obvious, would mean it's ANTI-associative. but this is very associative my guy. stop this.

[the worst]

so what if they talked about 4 players? absolutely one of them could be scum, there's no reason not to include a scum name there. again, so what if it is goofy? it's not not indicative.

because it's scum a asking scum b about their read on two townies, scum a themselves, and scum c. it's such a weird way to distance particularly when the rest of the conversation is like. not convincing at all. they don't seem to be going as hard as you need to go to sell that kind of cross-distancing.

[humaneatingmonkey]

what? they went hard. they padded their scum partner interaction with THREE MORE NAMES. SO BRAVE.

[humaneatingmonkey]

my guy im reading all this and it confirms my idea that you have found yourself in opposite-ville. flip your reads and we will win.

[the worst]

647 is a point against dragons agreed

i don't think you're looking for the nuance in what i'm seeing ugh i'll write this up overnight if you're town

pedit: there's, like, the entire scumteam + 2 names.
how did they go hard the conversation literally fizzles out

[humaneatingmonkey]

bro "nuance" didn't get us here. we eliminated two scum in a row because we went hardcore solve obvious mode. that's the game we're in. you eliminated monkey because you got four dimensional. AND HES TOWN. bro

[humaneatingmonkey]

how did they go hard the conversation literally fizzles out

exactly bro it was a whole bunch of nothing. just to say they interacted.

[the worst]

i'm kinda checking out of this convo i've got other stuff to do w my friday night

if you're scum having fun at my expense respect

if not this isn't, like, helping at all i'm really sorry. i'll obviously re-evaluate overnight. you're kind of just giving me "nuh-uh"s to all of my points without offering anything you're seeing as scum indicative from dragons, or particularly insightful about any of the other slots. you missed the point of why that group of 4 is peculiar so you're like...not reading this closely

idk i got nothing i hope someone else pops in to chat w you before you flip

[humaneatingmonkey]

it's not nu-uhs. you thought the signs that make them look like associative and scum means they aren't scum because scum would be smarter. then you thought "who's smart" and tunneled on my slot. but in reality they have obvious associative and it happens. sometimes they mention partners even though there was no reason to just to do theater. that can happen, especially if the team is trying to lay low because scum wincon is being pushed by someone else (me). they won't need to do the hardcore theater because it's unnecessary attention. that's what happened.

[Thestatusquo]

VoteCount 4.3 FINAL

humaneatingmonkey [ 4 ]

save the dragons, the worst, geraintm, Elements

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bob3141, humaneatingmonkey

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curiouskarmadog

With 7 alive it takes 4 votes to be executed.

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Humaneatingmonkey has been executed.

Spoiler: He was

a townie

It is now night. Please get your night choices in by (expired on 2023-08-06 10:53:31)

If all players indicate to me that they prefer fast night via PM night will instead end when I receive all night choices.

[Thestatusquo]

What does an axolotl look like when she's dead?

Why? No reason.

Elements is dead.

Spoiler: She was

Town Mason

It is now day 5.

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geraintm, bob3141, the worst, save the dragons, curiouskarmadog

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[bob3141]

VOTE: Dragon

Should of been last days execution

[Thestatusquo]

Obviously that deadline is not correct. Fixing.

[Thestatusquo]

Deadline is now correct.

[Save The Dragons]

will get to this soon