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[Flavor Leaf]

If Cakez is scum and you're town, why would he want that?

Distraction

[Flavor Leaf]

Even if Cakez is town, I feel they’re being survivalist town, which I get, but they’re trying harder and harder to fabricate the read.

It’s pretty cut and dry tbh. I just don’t buy it

[RCEnigma]

Either that or I’m derp tunneling Cakez town, but he came after me first

FL if you're actually considering this why not make an actual attempt to engage me and stop vomiting the typical I solved the game spam that is totally useless? It just looks like preemptive excuses for the town flip here

I feel like this was me stating that you could possibly be town here

Ok but you are acknowledging cakes could have poked at you and reaction AND could still be town after the fact.

But then pushing that he’s scum for those aforementioned reasons.

[RCEnigma]

DwtD 180 definitely feels weird considering how in they went in defending me against Marci earlier

This can't be as simple as Aureal protecting their buddy right?

-Drew

And this is just level 0 scum hunting

Can you elaborate how I 'went in' defending you?

And even if I did? Do you understand how reads can change?

I mean this will be a post in the 800's, and you are using post 180 to defend yourself.

Seems like level 0 scum play my man

-Drew

Can you explain what you didn’t like about cakes posting between your defense of him and now?

[biancospino]

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With 13 alive, it takes 7 to hammer.

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Spoiler:

Excerpt from the Official Hagiography of the Overseer, page 131.

execution votes

SirCakez (5):

Cat Scratch Fever (444), PenguinPower (477), marcistar (492), Merlyn (543), Flavor Leaf (769)

camelCasedSnivy (2):

Deal With The Devil (182), Aureal (654)

Flavor Leaf (2):

RCEnigma (407), SirCakez (758)

Merlyn (1):

Roden (250)

PenguinPower (1):

meowmeow (387)

Not voting (2):

Random Nurse, camelCasedSnivy (792)

projects votes

Bureau of Investigations (5):

Aureal (110), meowmeow (258), SirCakez (267), Deal With The Devil (565), Flavor Leaf (608)

Trading Outpost (3):

PenguinPower (86), RCEnigma (159), camelCasedSnivy (784)

Intelligentia (2):

Roden (503), Cat Scratch Fever (560)

Elected Jury (1):

marcistar (294)

Printing Press (1):

Random Nurse (345)

Election Security (1):

Merlyn (630)

Not voting (0).

notes

• The Deadline is due in (expired on 2023-08-08 09:00:00).
  
• Random Nurse is V/LA on Thursdays, Frydays and Saturdays.

[RCEnigma]

marci, roden
merlyn
csf, snivy
cakez, flavor leaf, random nurse
devil, rcenigma
aureal, penguinpower

i think i'm here right now. i don't really get common townreads on RCE. none of my reads are that strong so far - honestly, i'm a little worried about it, it feels like the gamestate isn't that advanced and we're halfway to deadline. i was hoping we'd be able to, uh, walk and chew gum when it comes to the mechanical stuff, but maybe we need to cut down on it and focus on the mafia side of things

Listen, I am letting Alianna deal with the mech stuff, so we can tussle and throw hands on the mafia side of things if you want.

Especially since we have some clear differences in our reads.

Snivy that high? RC and Aureal that low?

-Drew

At this point you have an implied agreement that cakes being middle of the pack is fine. There is also no clear indication that cakes backing off penguin tanked your read there.

Also also Alianna defended cakes again with Marci pushing there in some capacity. I get hydra dissonance but I think the falloff would have been discussed at some point between you two.

[marcistar]

what even was the reason flavor leaf flipped into pushing cakez? because this lowkey feels weird and makes me want to unvote if anything LOL

[Flavor Leaf]

Either that or I’m derp tunneling Cakez town, but he came after me first

FL if you're actually considering this why not make an actual attempt to engage me and stop vomiting the typical I solved the game spam that is totally useless? It just looks like preemptive excuses for the town flip here

I feel like this was me stating that you could possibly be town here

Ok but you are acknowledging cakes could have poked at you and reaction AND could still be town after the fact.

But then pushing that he’s scum for those aforementioned reasons.

sure, i never assume im correct on day 1, at the moment, they're my highest scum read, so it makes sense to push them

[Flavor Leaf]

what even was the reason flavor leaf flipped into pushing cakez? because this lowkey feels weird and makes me want to unvote if anything LOL

his bad reasoning.

im not opposed to another wagon.

if anything, i used it as an opportunity to create a stake in the game and get people to directly react towards something I was involved with, so I could get reads based on how i feel people are towards me and what theyre up to.

[Flavor Leaf]

Either that or I’m derp tunneling Cakez town, but he came after me first

FL if you're actually considering this why not make an actual attempt to engage me and stop vomiting the typical I solved the game spam that is totally useless? It just looks like preemptive excuses for the town flip here

I feel like this was me stating that you could possibly be town here

Ok but you are acknowledging cakes could have poked at you and reaction AND could still be town after the fact.

But then pushing that he’s scum for those aforementioned reasons.

like this just doesnt make sense? of course he can be town, i specifically stated it.

whats the purpose of this post?

i was actively engaging with him, and I called his post out here as poor because I was engaging with him and actively using the back and forth to figure out the read further.

[Flavor Leaf]

RCEnigma, you're feeling like town who wants me to be scum, or scum who wants to keep me locked down cuz i'd be able to catch you.

either way, not a great look.

[Flavor Leaf]

what even was the reason flavor leaf flipped into pushing cakez? because this lowkey feels weird and makes me want to unvote if anything LOL

this kind of thing is one of the purposes.

im a gamestate analyzer, so people who moves votes on or off is where i like to pay attention too.

what were your reasons for being on Cakez in the first place?

[Flavor Leaf]

keep the hounding coming, though

[Flavor Leaf]

awoooooooo

[Flavor Leaf]

can we just vote cakez out pls

bcuz hes scum

what even was the reason flavor leaf flipped into pushing cakez? because this lowkey feels weird and makes me want to unvote if anything LOL

this trajectory is actually super scummy.

@Cakez - what's your read on Marcistar?

You wanted to talk and actually engage, I might be convinced to go on here?

Can you explain their push on you because this is a hilarious trajectory imo

[Flavor Leaf]

cuz that's twice now Marcistar struck out with me. 2 strikes.

you only get 2 more.

[Flavor Leaf]

camelCasedSnivy
Cat Scratch Fever
meowmeow
Deal With The Devil

SirCakez
Roden
PenguinPower
Random Nurse

Merlyn
Aureal

RCEnigma
marcistar

VOTE: Marcistar

Where I'm at right now. The Cakez back and forth went how I felt it would. While I did think Cakez was scummy and forcing that read, I stated that I could see Cakez as coming from town, and I said this. I do believe scum hopped onto this, probably at least one defending me, one hounding me, regardless of if Cakez is scum or not.

Like by no means was I certain, and I actively stated that I was still getting into the game.

But people wanna try to twist and are actively looking for something to hound, so thought I'd play with it and throw some of the beef out to the hounds.

Pretty sure I caught a scummy hound in the nets.

[Flavor Leaf]

I will say, the SirCakez tier could have been split into 2, with Sir Cakez going to lean town, and the other 3 going to null, but I can still see a CakezScum world. I just think the conclusion based on the hounding and that Cakez was getting ran up, and likely possibly to being full faded, I'm happy to move on from it.

RCE's doing hardcore slot control, and Marcistar's trajectory is super stinky this game.

I remember I didn't like one of their posts when I was in the Snivy situation too.

[marcistar]

lol ok

[Flavor Leaf]

I don't necessarily think RCE/Marcistar are a team, not that they can't be, but with the given gamestate changes after SirCakez vs FL happened, I'm interested in seeing how the gamestate evolves further.

[Flavor Leaf]

lol ok

neat choice to lol and ignore the request for CakezScum reasonings you had.

Noting.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Cakez - this is why you don't force me into the game on Day 1. I go into deep deep detective mode, and try to read every single action, and Day 1 there's no flips.

I wish people just let me coast until end game.

[marcistar]

if you cant read, i dont really see how thats my problem?

[Flavor Leaf]

My choice of Marcistar over RCE is I trust my ability to read RCE better as the game goes on, and I could see it possible theyre playing the way they are as town.

I do feel they are hiding behind a focus on my slot, and while they are commenting on some other stuff here and there, it almost feels like that's there to appease the fact they're hiding behind a focus on my slot.

I also feel like it's weird of them to try to prioritize solving me day 1 rather than attempting to work with me, which is also something they attempted to call me out on in regards to Cakez, while I actively was stating that I saw a world where Cakez was town in, so that's a bit odd.

Aureal had the weird backwards comparison when comparing this game to the last game when I feel they're super different, but since it's Cakez and I, and that's the only game they've seen me in, and it involves the same players there, I can see it.

Merlyn, idk. I think I got Merlyn Fever, so I'll probably wait for more flips to try and solve Merlyn. I have faith I can solve this slot correctly, but after the last game I got pocketed in while knowing I was in a pocket, makes me want to solve the slot more logically.

[Flavor Leaf]

if you cant read, i dont really see how thats my problem?

I can.

Just testing your ability to work with others along with your consistency.

Noting this interaction.