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[geraintm]

Will not get to this soon, notntill tomorrow night at the earliest

[curiouskarmadog]

Im here...I was gone between tuesday and just got in today. apparently I missed and entire game day...have no clue what is going on. will read that I missed shortly and update

[the worst]

hey just waiting for dragons' & ckd's reevaluations. I have no regrets.

I'll be back to solve after!

[the worst]

Gera do you still like dragons?

[curiouskarmadog]

Okay catching up. My last post before I left was 2039 (page 82), I saw the Bingle and Tweet flips, but the game did not open I left.
Im also putting this out there as I still feel like this is relevant.

so if we take the all things constant approach.

and assume at least 1 scum was on the Roden wagon.

so I think your last post you are essentially saying the below (at least the pool part)

well, I think there is AT LEAST one scum in this group.

going to start my read with this pool

Roden (7):

Klick, clidd, Elements, humaneatingmonkey

, OopsieDaisy, curiouskarmadog, Takutai

both Daisy and Tak had HEAVY suspicion of Elements.


I think this Elements (and/or clidd) should have some pressure applied to them today.

that leaves HEM and Klick/Std.

But lets see what happened. Before I left (I recall) I was trying to understand the claim and was suspicious of Bob’s claim. At that time I wanted a full claim.

82-
2042, worst votes bob
End of day, Bingle goon, Tweet Mason.

With these people voting them
Bingle [ 5 ]
humaneatingmonkey, The worst, bob3141, Morning Tweet, Elements

Bingle goon, Tweet Mason.

So this clears Elements, wasn’t there talk of a third mason?!? Ill have to go back and read.
(while skimming know that HEM and ELE are town) Who is the 3rd mason?

2050, Elements votes bob
2051, HEM votes bob
2054, STD votes HEM
2056 bob votes STD
2060, bob think Gera is town.
2061, bob thinks I am town
2064, HEM votes STD

Scum std votes Bob and takes the easy road

Town std votes hem and sticks with his conviction even if it's a losing battle.

STD, who was this post too?

2068, gera prefers it not to be STD (of the two) but bows down to better players....ugh, think post.
2071, Worst not sold on STD or HEM (when asked why, Worst says has him null)

okay more 3rd mason, talk...looking it up....okay, that is tweet...so who was the 2ND MASON?..looking up..(the Worst) okay, going to keep going. glad I looked it up, wasnt particularly digging the HEM worst exchange, now I can ignore.

2106 worst vote bob
2107 I was prodded.....Not sure why I was prodded, I posted in the game AND sent the mod a message I was going to gone, is that just what mods have to do?
2113, thanks HEM for reposting my post.
2117, worst seems to be doing a (re?)read.
---seems like most of the day thus far is HEM and Worst chatting.
2133, worst votes HEM
2151, STD start pushes that HEM case a bit more.
2152, Gera once again doesnt post content, "has no connection with the game"....and just differs to others.

Gera, WHY do you not have any connection to this game. Who do you chose to differ to today? What happens if it goes to 1v2?

?
2154, Bob says order STD>himself>HEM
2158, Elements puts STD at -1 (bob, HEM, and EL, I think) wellll if I had just kept reading.

VoteCount 4.2

Save The Dragons [ 3 ]

bob3141, humaneatingmonkey, Elements

humaneatingmonkey [ 2 ]

save the dragons, the worst

Not Voting [ 2 ]

geraintm, curiouskarmadog

With 7 alive it takes 4 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2023-08-08 11:31:31)

I know Worst is confirmtown, but this makes me giggle.

it's hem. i haven't had scum on lock so hard since a looong time before my hiatus.
hem 80%

2182, Gera votes HEM......hmmm. I guess GeraScum could easily come in and say just about anything at this point and hammer STDtown, but votes HEMTOWN instead, which also puts him at -1. fuck, wish I would have been around yesterday. That being said, I really dont know where I would have gone in the moment. I would have been fine with either I think, but would have leaned HEM (as well).
2184, the worst does a BIG push for HEM
2191, which grabs Elements (curious what that mason thread looked like)
2197, Elements didnt know that was the hammer vote, not sure how...LOL, if Ele wasnt confirmtown here, I would have been sold on scum

the rest of the day, was more Worst and HEM talk.

HEM and Elemts flip

3 to lynch.

2246, bob vote STD right out of the gate.

I have no regrets.

none? lol


so interesting note, Gera had a chance to hammer, didnt take it...felt town. STD had the same chance, and didnt feel town. I went back to read to see if he had stated a town read on Bob or something, but didnt see anything. He leaves himself open to vote him later. so I guess he should also get the same town cred I am applying to Gera?!?!?

ugh.

Im back to this though.

going to start my read with this pool

Roden (7):

Klick,

clidd

,

Elements

,

humaneatingmonkey

,

OopsieDaisy

,

curiouskarmadog

,

Takutai

this might bite me in my ass if I am wrong.

but what are the chances that NO scum was on the Roden wagon?!?!

I just dont see it.

my vote most likely will be STD.

I want more from Gera

I still dont really get the bob claim.

Bob, can you work me through your (full) claim again. How does it work? what did you find out?

also for WHOEVER, is it possible the role Bob is claiming be a mafia role?

[curiouskarmadog]

also , FWIW, I just meta-ed Gera a bit. trying to figure out if this "im not connected to this game" bullshit is an act to avoid doing anything or making stances...and to get to end game.

I just read a game where he was mafia and in the mafia thread, said something, like "his interest for the game was low".....and that was a game (as mafia) he SHOULD have been interested. So its just a null read. But if he is town, it is a dangerous null read. If that screws us here, going forward if I find myself in a game with him and I "just dont know who to vote"....I know where I am planting it. or if I am a vig.

[the worst]

just a terminology thing, curiouskarmadog - we don't use the word "lynch" anymore. standard replacement term is "eliminate".

the thing that's bouncing around in my head the most for gera is that he was actually invested enough to case furtive (flipped scum).
below is the most visible effort i think i've ever noticed from gera

So, im going to go through Furtive's posts now and show why i thought they were plucking reads from nothing

I don't like that votecount at all.

Clidd, Greeting or geraint wagons anyone?

vague post just wanting to push at 3 random people

I don't like that votecount at all.

Clidd, Greeting or geraint wagons anyone?

Clearly not
Join something that's actually going to happen

I'll vote CKD over Roden if I have to

now willing to vote Curious, but i don't know why. - they follow this with a vote for Curious

I genuinely think Roden's townier. I don't have to agree with the perceived consensus...

an opinion on Roden, but zero to explain why

Ok I think ckd's recent posting has been towny. Especially interactions with Greeting.

no explanation why Curious is townie now. Also doesnt unvote

Next Day

That said, the individual I'd like to talk to at this point is Furtive.

Other than the suspicion expressed about me, there haven't been any other *expressive* instances to check out his perspective on the game.

VOTE: furtiveglance

What are your current impressions? (apart from my slot, of course).

You and Greeting remain my biggest scumreads. I'll go back and look at what Takutai was saying, I feel like they weren't really a UTR so maybe killed for their reads.

Saying CLidd and Greeting remain top of their scum reads, they hadnt mentioned them for a long time. ive been dropped . still unsure why on Day 2 they are top of their list

1378 - actually gives a reason on why GReeting is Scum - stiff, lifeless and push on them is calculated.
then votes Greeting

It's interesting to see how fast that Greeting wagon took off compared to my push on clidd yesterday.

I'm gonna vote clidd and see what happens.

VOTE: Clidd

wait... they unvote because they dont like the wagon?

{side note, if Greeting comes back green i will immediately vote Furtive just for this}

@furtive if you're so set on clidd, who are the other scum?

Greeting, Geraint, maybe Emperor

I'm not sure

next post, just starts pushing more people, still with no reasoning.


So, that is why i said there is an attempt at content, but they have basically been plucking names from the air and have zero to back it up

people happier with why i didn't like Furtive now?

[the worst]

cards on the table - evaluating overnight, gera is probably the person i wanted to vote out the least. breaking character to case furtive is just so odd.

i'm still working through reads i'll report back

[curiouskarmadog]

just a terminology thing, curiouskarmadog - we don't use the word "lynch" anymore. standard replacement term is "eliminate".

crap crap crap, I know that....just forgot...sorry all.

[curiouskarmadog]

i'm still working through reads i'll report back

so yesterday, it seemed like it was just you and HEM talking.

I feel like everyone else will just wait in the background until we do a thing (maybe not bob?)

I dont want this day to go by and not get firm stances from STD and Gera

[curiouskarmadog]

just a terminology thing, curiouskarmadog - we don't use the word "lynch" anymore. standard replacement term is "eliminate".

crap crap crap, I know that....just forgot...sorry all.

Im old school, this and using the correct pronouns will be the hardest to fix I think. Not because I am trying to be a dick or anything, just I tend to type and hit submit and not proofread.

trying to be better

[curiouskarmadog]

also like I said, my vote will probably go on STD. but there is no point going -1 right now.

most likely you (the worst) are going tonight, so want to get the most insight out of you as possible before then. that being said you were wrong about HEM (tee hee) but at least it is an evaluation where we dont have to question motivation.

[the worst]

i feel clearer for hem having been eliminated unfortunately

i'm so happy i scum cased the absolute hell out of town, that brings me life

[the worst]

i'm still working through reads i'll report back

so yesterday, it seemed like it was just you and HEM talking.

I feel like everyone else will just wait in the background until we do a thing (maybe not bob?)

I dont want this day to go by and not get firm stances from STD and Gera

yeah i intend to kinda prod dodge this phase until dragons re-evaluates & we hear from gera again.

just a terminology thing, curiouskarmadog - we don't use the word "lynch" anymore. standard replacement term is "eliminate".

crap crap crap, I know that....just forgot...sorry all.

Im old school, this and using the correct pronouns will be the hardest to fix I think. Not because I am trying to be a dick or anything, just I tend to type and hit submit and not proofread.

trying to be better

you're all good

[bob3141]

I was planning on claiming day 4 as i needed to get my claim out of the way but couldnt wait when teh day 3 was reset. Last game i played with HEM and dragon, Hem was bg finder (3bg) and dragon was scum. In that game HEM was A bg-finder and town didnt beleive it and we executed him. I rep into a game straight after being nk that night and behold i rep into a town mason finder lol I was saying it looked more liek scum role than town role. With its utilty being to find the bg.

thought it was funny. But also tried to get some use out of the claim .

In that game HEM action were the same as this one. Hard push day one and when it flipped town he backed off and took more of back seat. Dragon should of know that but instead push HEM for things he did as town not long ago. If dragon was town he would of pushed me that day and only then after HEM day 4.


The last 2 mason nk have all been ones that wanted to keep teh game in the (HEM,bob and Dragon). I did really want the scum royal flush

[bob3141]

Also those 2 mason were also the ones hot on heals of dragon day 3 (first run)

[curiouskarmadog]

but have you fully claimed yet?

[bob3141]

yep my role is mason finder. What i meant was i was originally going to do it day 4 but after teh reset i couldnt wait another 9 days.

Ive not done any action the last few nights as i dont see much of point. AS my role really is only named role at the moment

[curiouskarmadog]

sorry, can you quote where the claim is.

I mean I remember you clearly "found" the 3rd mason, but just dont recall the details.

[bob3141]

was around game post 1970-2000. It was bit stretched out as i was trying to find out who wasnt really bothered about my role and who was overly curious about the 3rd mason. Unfortunately, i thought i had made it to obvous who the 3rd mason was with my action prior. When scum prob hadnt put 1 and 1 togather yet.

But that was the point i was sure furt was scum and HEM was town. And the fact that dragon didnt even react made be sure he knew i was talkign nonsense as with 3 masons its most likely scum are all goons. So any potential rolecop would be no threat.

[the worst]

bob i'm going to need your solve these posts aren't helping

[curiouskarmadog]

bob i'm going to need your solve these posts aren't helping

I have read this 3 times...

..what?

[the worst]

bob, i'm going to need your solve.
these posts aren't helping.

^ with sloppy grammar, sorry, most of my posts are written in a frenzy!

[Thestatusquo]

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[Thestatusquo]

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