mystery box of silver 15: i'm killing hostages (negotiated)

[DkKoba]

regrettably, the multiple PR claims are making the conditional thing I saw from pooky kick in for him being town in that he slipped VT if there are roles in the game lol

but also all the claims are coming from my scumreads so it may be a case of scum trying some silly gambit bc ik pooky and alisae have claimed masons together b4

[MUSHSHAGANA]

MT is a nothing slot from our perspective. It was neither town nor scum. Curse was sad to lose The Bulge, though it understood how that happened.

As for why MT survived and The Bulge didn't, presumably schadd_ felt that eliminating a prodded player before they have a chance to post again would be too mean-spirited. This is just our best attempt at being generous and kindhearted, we don't really care too much about the slot in question either way.

--Orphee Nuit

[DkKoba]

MT is a nothing slot from our perspective. It was neither town nor scum. Curse was sad to lose The Bulge, though it understood how that happened.

As for why MT survived and The Bulge didn't, presumably schadd_ felt that eliminating a prodded player before they have a chance to post again would be too mean-spirited. This is just our best attempt at being generous and kindhearted, we don't really care too much about the slot in question either way.

--Orphee Nuit

ya thats why im not reading into it too heavily but its something that sorta is like reminding me "hey theres nothing really disqualifying here"

[DkKoba]

ok dont let me post for (expired on 2023-08-09 13:35:09)

i have posted more than 2x the next highest person and people are prob gonna kill me for flooding thread anyways and making it "unreadable" lol

o well

i will claim if needed but otherwise radio silence

roflmao

wrt the aforementioned post abt pooky this is what im talking about

[xyzzy]

I wanna claim.

almost certainly absolutely no reason for that! very strange idea

[DkKoba]

Subject: Among Us Mafia [GAME OVER]

bell wants a flip right now
thats super scummy

was browsing an old game bc remembered the fact i had to wallpost and i wanted to share the game elsewhere but i saw alisae was in teh game, decided to skim iso for funs and saw this post and i think its funny af(town alisae btw, i replaced into their slot)

[Ranger]

{MUSHSHAGANA}
{HighPrincessErinys, Meuh}
{SirCakez}
{Skygazer}
{The Buldge}
{DKKoba}
{BlueSnakelet}
{Doctor Drew}
{Alisae}
{Dannflor}
{iamveryhappy}
{PookyTheMagicalBear}
{sheepsaysmeep}
{Morning Tweet}
{RCEnigma}
{xyzzy}
{ofrhz}

Fresher reads as of P26, but obviously have 30 pages to read.

[Ranger]

I do not *get* the overwhelming xyzzy scum reads

Their posts don't just vibe as not-town, their posts actively vibe as scum, particularly their stances and takes. I don't buy the idea of them being lazy-town. Laziness is a given; their posting gives off lazy-scum vibes.

[HighPrincessErinys]

oh thank god the cavalry is here

[Ranger]

{MUSHSHAGANA}
{HighPrincessErinys, Meuh}
{SirCakez}
{Skygazer}
{The Buldge}
{DKKoba}
{BlueSnakelet}
{Doctor Drew}
{Alisae}
{Dannflor}
{iamveryhappy}
{PookyTheMagicalBear}
{sheepsaysmeep}
{Morning Tweet}
{RCEnigma}
{ofrhz}
{xyzzy}

P32.

[Ranger]

oh thank god the cavalry is here

Yeah, rough couple of days. I'm here to kill xyzzy or ofrhz though.

[Ranger]

ofrhz (7): The Bulge, Dannflor, MUSHSHAGANA, Skygazer, HighPrincessErinys, Ranger, BlueSnakelet
Snek voting the biggest wagon kekw

I'm willing to wager everyone on that wagon is town, possible exception of Dannflor.

If 6-7 town players are on the wagon and 0-1 scum are, what do you suppose that implies?

[Ranger]

{MUSHSHAGANA}
{HighPrincessErinys, Meuh}
{SirCakez}
{Skygazer}
{The Buldge}
{DKKoba}
{BlueSnakelet}
{Doctor Drew}
{iamveryhappy}
{Alisae}
{Dannflor}
{PookyTheMagicalBear}
{sheepsaysmeep}
{Morning Tweet}
{RCEnigma}
{ofrhz}
{xyzzy}

P34.

I really like my townreads for town. (Where they start exactly varies. Drew, Snakelet, Koba, Bulge, all could be starting points.)

The scum list is less definitive. Anyone Alisae below I'd vote. (Koba is the one player above I'd vote; as previously stated, I think they're town, yet understand the value of their flip.)

[Ranger]

I simply do not believe Blue’s read on ofrhz
My scum read on ofrhz is cooling off as well

I do believe the scumread on ofrhz.

I also see no reason to cool off on scumreading ofrhz. ofhrz's play has looked disproportionately +scum. There's town elements, yet overall I don't see a town player making genuine thoughts/conclusions; I see a scum player putting in the minimum amount of effort required. The wagon on ofhrz was likely pure. It should be revived.

[Ranger]

you have like no endurance as scum

What do you suppose it means that DKKoba has shown endurance this game?

[Ranger]

RCE did not similarly shift because I get the impression that RCE isn't engaged with the game and has no intention of figuring it out right now.

I disagree with this take. That RCEnigma isn't engaged with the game's clear enough. I would lump him in with xyzzy for still being readable off what he

has

produced, and it being +scum. I don't think he's making genuine pushes.

[Ranger]

{MUSHSHAGANA}
{HighPrincessErinys, Meuh}
{SirCakez}
{DKKoba}
{Skygazer}
{The Buldge}
{BlueSnakelet}
{Doctor Drew}
{iamveryhappy}
{Dannflor}
{Alisae}
{PookyTheMagicalBear}
{sheepsaysmeep}
{Morning Tweet}
{RCEnigma}
{ofrhz}
{xyzzy}

P36.

[Ranger]

{MUSHSHAGANA}
{HighPrincessErinys, Meuh, SirCakez, DKKoba}
{Skygazer}
{The Buldge}
{BlueSnakelet}
{Doctor Drew}
{iamveryhappy}
{Dannflor}
{Alisae}
{PookyTheMagicalBear}
{sheepsaysmeep}
{Morning Tweet}
{RCEnigma}
{ofrhz}
{xyzzy}

P37.

[Ranger]

I feel like there are definitely some wolves operating in broad daylight this game (if that makes sense lol) and being manipulative and I'm not sure who looks trustworthy yet.

I'm very high in confidence it's none of my top townreads. The first it

could

be is BlueSnakelet, and even there I'd doubt.

If there's wolves operating in broad daylight manipulating events, the best candidates: {Dannflor, Alisae, PookyTheMagicalBear}. It's not guaranteed those three contain scum. Still, I currently believe the group isn't all town. None of them are D1 yeets, and the best way to expose them as scum would be nabbing their scumbuddies

not

bothering to try.

Not every slot giving zero effort will be town.

Though

every

zero-effort slot won't be scum, I'd water the zero-effort slots contain more scum than town.

[Ranger]

Not every slot giving zero effort will be town.

Though

every

zero-effort slot won't be scum, I'd water the zero-effort slots contain more scum than town.

Remember, the game mechanics punish lazy-town and reward lazy-scum. Lazy-scum get to coast by. They need not do anything, if the town is unwilling to threaten their lives. Lazy-town get punished. They either get executed by schadd, or lead to a different townie getting executed by schadd off their inactivity and refusal to step up.

Scum have far more motivation to be lazy than town, because laziness this game is disproportionately +scum.

[Ranger]

Not every slot giving zero effort will be town.

Though

every

zero-effort slot won't be scum, I'd water the zero-effort slots contain more scum than town.

Remember, the game mechanics punish lazy-town and reward lazy-scum. Lazy-scum get to coast by. They need not do anything, if the town is unwilling to threaten their lives. Lazy-town get punished. They either get executed by schadd, or lead to a different townie getting executed by schadd off their inactivity and refusal to step up.

Scum have far more motivation to be lazy than town, because laziness this game is disproportionately +scum.

If you wonder which slots I'd call lazy:
{Doctor Drew(maybe), iamveryhappy, sheepsaysmeep, Morning Tweet, RCEnigma, ofhrz, xyzzy}.

Does anyone believe that group's entirely town?

I'd wager it's not even

mostly

town.

I don't think all scum are within. I'd say ~3-4 likely.

[Ranger]

Like Pooky said earlier - deliver dead scum for a townread

Can't deliver dead scum if scum refuses to vote them.

[Ranger]

Like Pooky said earlier - deliver dead scum for a townread

Can't deliver dead scum if scum refuses to vote them.

*if town refuses to vote them, though scum refusing does make it much harder.

[Ranger]

{MUSHSHAGANA}
{HighPrincessErinys, Meuh, SirCakez, DKKoba}
{Skygazer}
{The Buldge}
{BlueSnakelet}
{Doctor Drew}
{iamveryhappy}
{Dannflor}
{Alisae}
{sheepsaysmeep}
{Morning Tweet}
{RCEnigma}
{PookyTheMagicalBear}
{ofrhz}
{xyzzy}

I caught a Pooky-specific scumtell on P39.

[Ranger]

also you can see he is actually poking around other slots and all that there to get to that conclusion, he just decided i was scum here and just kept calling me scum. he is capable of showing reasoning for reads

Isn't this the issue you had with Ranger? Which now somehow you two townread each other????

ranger's play and pooky's play is like miles apart so kinda obvious how i townread ranger and not pooky

Yet you use the same vernacular in your defense.

Gotcha.

I think this is a town-Drew.

{MUSHSHAGANA}
{HighPrincessErinys, Meuh, SirCakez, DKKoba}
{Skygazer}
{The Buldge}
{BlueSnakelet, Doctor Drew}
{iamveryhappy}
{Dannflor}
{Alisae}
{sheepsaysmeep}
{Morning Tweet}
{RCEnigma}
{PookyTheMagicalBear}
{ofrhz}
{xyzzy}

Everyone from the BlueSnakelet tier above, I'm quite sure is town. Let's purge those below.