Veiled Committee Mafia: List Mods Edition [game over]

[AniX]

actually with anix passively pushing no lim, voting me, calling dragoneat scum might be town for scatterbrain reasons.

I am voting you because if I vote 5 or more different people, each vote lasting over 24 hours, I can track any of those people. I have reached 5. You are number 6. At around 8:30pm tonight, I will start number 7, and so on until a vote I believe in requires support and I vote in earnest.

[AniX]

I am only "passively" pushing No lim in so much as I keep saying "we should go no lim" and "I think no lim is the best path for the town with the information we have" but I have not parked my vote on it.

[camelCasedSnivy]

hey anix what do you think about cook wagon as an alternative

[AniX]

I'll be straight up I'm not really sure of why EITHER of the top two (yourself and cook) are in the position they are.

[camelCasedSnivy]

all i can remember is being voted off one very bad post and some people following

i mean, its not like my role provided much utility anyway idk

[xyzzy]

votecount 1.16

you ain't nothin but a round bog

3 players voting for Cook (Ranger, camelCasedSnivy, Ircher)
3 players voting for Aureal (DkKoba, Bingle, DragonEater70)
2 players voting for camelCasedSnivy (Political Clout, Cook)
2 players voting for DragonEater70 (Aureal, KatyKimFanClub)
1 player voting for Theta Alpine (Deltabreedy)
1 player voting for Political Clout (AniX)

5 players not voting (Alisae, Random Nurse, Theta Alpine, Save The Dragons, Skygazer)

with 17 votes, it takes 9 to eliminate.

mod notes: still looking for an Alisae replacement. prodding Save The Dragons. this is Save The Dragons' third prod in about a week, and further inactivity might result in replacement.

[camelCasedSnivy]

5 players not voting (Alisae, Random Nurse, Theta Alpine, Save The Dragons, Skygazer)

start wagons pls

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: aureal

[AniX]

Vote Random Nurse

I have completed 24 hours on the following people:
DKoba: August 2nd, 3:09pm to August 5th, 6:34pm
DragonEater: August 5th, 6:34pm to August 11th, 3:53pm
STD: August 11th, 3:53pm to August 12th, 4:16pm
Skygazer: August 12th, 4:16pm to August 13th, around 4-5pm
Alisae Slot: August 13th, 4:17pm to August 14th, around 4-5pm
Political Clout: August 14th, 8:09pm to August 16th, 12:06am

[Theta Alpine]

VOTE: cook

i could also do no lim if we want to push dragoneater to do an invest somewhere

[Cook]

might as well consolidate

VOTE: Aureal because i'm not not_mafia

[Ranger]

It is also a

guaranteed

gain of not eliminating another town player.

In a 9p Cop + Doc vs Roleblocker setup, no-limming D1's a guarantee of not eliminating the doctor, cop, or any town.

What would your response be to a player suggesting a nolim D1 in that setup?

Same deal here.

Your logic applies to every game on mafiascum. Every game would guarantee no town elimination on D1 if they nolim D1.

There's good reason we take the risk.

[Ranger]

aureal->delta->cook
At least 2 mafia die here

As Cook's guaranteed scum, I prefer there first. Delta's acceptable as the Doctor Drew slot.

I think there's a reasonably high chance Aureal's scum. I'm

positive

Cook is, and

very

confident the Doctor Drew slot is.

[Ranger]

O ya kkfc is mafia too

Game mechanics make that impossible if Cook is (which she is), as KKFC is in Cook's role grouping and there can only be one scum per group.

[Ranger]

I thought Ranger was the Epicmafia pro here.

Only for 2008-2010 era EpicMafia, with the close-to-original set of roles. If my four accounts were combined, I'd have had one of the highest points total in the type which didn't periodically reset. After the introduction of ranked lobbies, verified accounts, loss of the original classical setups, and role explosion (going from only a couple new roles to dozens), I lost my expertise card.

I still recognize implosion as a player from my era and there

are

signs of the roles being EpicMafiaesque in design.

[DragonEater70]

anix is saying implicitly that the info we get from dragoneat is better than info we get from a flip. anix is also saying dragoneat is scum. these two facts don't mesh well.

AniX is basically admitting that she either doesn't want to or can't form reads based on day play. I don't know which is more concerning, but I don't think she lied when she said she's a good Mafia player.
So that leaves us with "doesn't want to" form reads.
which is anti-town, but in a less scummy way than Aureal's complete disregard of actual scumhunting.

[DragonEater70]

we get info about pc and dragoneater and one slot of dragoneaters choosing by forcing dragon eater to do their cop

Forcing? I would KILL to do my cop job.
Kill scum, specifically.

[Ranger]

Spoiler: nongame-related;

Small plurality ramble, the Ranger on EpicMafia would actually go on to be the main fronter for someone else. On most areas of the internet, Ranger is made up of the least-vulgar of our facets, with the more vulgar ones gathering around a different banner.

On EpicMafia, it was actually the other way around. EpicMafia's Ranger was the vulgar facets gathered around, with the EpicMafia account featuring all our non-vulgar facets actually being the other account.

We didn't know about plurality while we played on EpicMafia, and didn't have the differences as established, so which facets piloted which name were inverted. EpicMafia Ranger wasn't us; we were known under a different name, with that name being totally different on mafiascum due to them being the EpicMafia Ranger.

[DragonEater70]

I'll be straight up I'm not really sure of why EITHER of the top two (yourself and cook) are in the position they are.

I think Ranger voted Cook for being the scummiest in a speculated group of 4 roles by the same mod.

Btw I've yet to read Cook's ISO but I think I will probably have time to do that today.

[DragonEater70]

Spoiler: nongame-related;

Small plurality ramble, the Ranger on EpicMafia would actually go on to be the main fronter for someone else. On most areas of the internet, Ranger is made up of the least-vulgar of our facets, with the more vulgar ones gathering around a different banner.

On EpicMafia, it was actually the other way around. EpicMafia's Ranger was the vulgar facets gathered around, with the EpicMafia account featuring all our non-vulgar facets actually being the other account.

We didn't know about plurality while we played on EpicMafia, and didn't have the differences as established, so which facets piloted which name were inverted. EpicMafia Ranger wasn't us; we were known under a different name, with that name being totally different on mafiascum due to them being the EpicMafia Ranger.

Wow I just realized I think you had this avatar on the EM site, right? I vaguely remember it all of a sudden.

[DragonEater70]

VOTE: aureal

Good job!

[Ranger]

Guys, for the love of al that is holy. Please. I beg of you. Let's vote scummy players rather than toying around with mech and arriving at a net 0 gain.

I agree.

If we were to go for mech, we should vote Cook (guaranteed) or Deltabreedy (likely).

If we go by play, we should vote Cook (still sus by play) or Deltabreedy(sus by virtue of Doctor Drew and their lackluster entrance upon replacing in).

By both metrics, they're both good eliminations. So I'm fine with either.

[Aureal]

Ranger it'd be lovely if you'd actually give any sort of explanation of your reads. You've had some noticeable shifts, but then again you weren't explaining your reads in the first place so I don't know why you thought DE was towny in the first place when he's been rather scummy all game and has just decided to start scraping the bottom of the scum-barrel with nonsense.

[DragonEater70]

I thought Ranger was the Epicmafia pro here.

Only for 2008-2010 era EpicMafia, with the close-to-original set of roles. If my four accounts were combined, I'd have had one of the highest points total in the type which didn't periodically reset. After the introduction of ranked lobbies, verified accounts, loss of the original classical setups, and role explosion (going from only a couple new roles to dozens), I lost my expertise card.

I still recognize implosion as a player from my era and there

are

signs of the roles being EpicMafiaesque in design.

Yeah Baker is similar but it had a different function (and woud probably fit under "bastard" on this site).
Also I think it's crazy that you had masons that could recruit every night and that wasn't somehow considered totally broken.

[DragonEater70]

Guys, for the love of al that is holy. Please. I beg of you. Let's vote scummy players rather than toying around with mech and arriving at a net 0 gain.

I agree.

If we were to go for mech, we should vote Cook (guaranteed) or Deltabreedy (likely).

If we go by play, we should vote Cook (still sus by play) or Deltabreedy(sus by virtue of Doctor Drew and their lackluster entrance upon replacing in).

By both metrics, they're both good eliminations. So I'm fine with either.

I'll read Cook ISO later today and might switch to her. I also will consider switching to Delta if the wagon gains traction, but rn Aureal's wagon is finally getting momentum and I want to see gow this pans out.