Mini 2308 | Deal with the Devil Hydra PT

[Doctor Drew]

Ooh boy, drunk Alianna incoming?

[Doctor Drew]

Also, you screwed up my timezone Alcoholic lol

-Drew

Ahh, much better.

[Doctor Drew]

I can change it if it bothers you.

- Alianna

Lol no it's cool.

Just being a Drew

[Doctor Drew]

I'm working on submitting an article to the Journal about homicidal cats. Don't ask why.

[Doctor Drew]

I have a gut scum read on Snivy.

[Doctor Drew]

I'm perplexed at how anyone could have reads at this point in the game, but go for it.
Eh, I guess pushing for sacrifice like that could be kind of sus.
Go for it.

- Alianna

So I was going to order this post differently and accidentally left the other "go for it" there and now it sounds weird.

- Alianna

I like this support you are giving me when I.....


....go for it.

And Snivy is really the only legit read I have now, I do think Merlyn has a towny vibe so far, as does Aureal.

But Snivy is really pinging me, and their most recent post about not caring about day talk seems like so sketch.....glad Merlyn called him out on it.

Also, I feel like this game can play to our individual strengths well. I think I am going to defer to you on the Projects, you are a bit more mech savvy than me.....I will focus more on getting reads on players.....a bit of divide and conquer strategy. Obviously all feedback will be welcome and appreciated

[Doctor Drew]

I am feeling better about Marci, but like you still hate Snivy.

Penguin seems a bit sketch as well.

[Doctor Drew]

I'm pretty sure my stance on votes and d1 play is both consistent and apparent so I won't be answering.

How do you even respond to a post like this? I guess maybe you don't?
Idk, I thought 378 was weird.

- Alianna

Ya his response to your questioning of him was odd there.

I just can't see scum acting this way though, seems too risky.

But, I only Penguin as a mod, not a player lol.

[Doctor Drew]

*I only know Penguin as a mod

[Doctor Drew]

I take full responsibility.

Alianna, I wouldn't waste energy trying to sort FL on a D1, especially when repping in lol.

[Doctor Drew]

Also, just realized that I definitely was the asshole....now I feel terrible.

Re: Penguin

[Doctor Drew]

Every time I ask about a vote and someone responds, "because they're scum," it makes me want to call them informed and accuse them of bussing. Not because I actually think it, it's just...that's what the post suggests if I take it literally.

- Alianna

I hate that, clearly if I am asking the question it means you see something I don't see.

[Doctor Drew]

Camel, my strongest town read, so sussing out a few of the people pushing there.

Strongest town read???

- Alianna

Ya I just read that, I definitely could see FL open wolfing like that.

[Doctor Drew]

Camel, my strongest town read, so sussing out a few of the people pushing there.

Strongest town read???

- Alianna

Ya I just read that, I definitely could see FL open wolfing like that.

Openwolfing as in blatant pocketing or they're partners or...?

- Alianna

I was thinking partners, but it could be just pocketing as well.

[Doctor Drew]

It is mainly gut on Roden, I think I even see myself in them lol. Just feel like they are being earnest and open, like not too worried about how they look.

Also more leaning FL for town now.

[Doctor Drew]

Where are you at for scumreads right now? I'd switch to Cakez, would also be fine staying on Snivy though. Not feeling the marci wagon.

- Alianna

I am not feeling Marci as well.

I am fine on Snivy

[Doctor Drew]

I have been adamant I feel sacrifice is really bad today.

I also don't like Aureals subtle defense of Infinity......Penguin clearly was basically mia, don't use a repp out as a defense.

[Doctor Drew]

I'm going to regret calling FL obvtown, but asking to get sacrificed

is

pretty obvtown.

- Alianna

Flavor is literally playing exactly as he did in Bianco's normal game(the one with the traitor).

Albeit he has to flesh things out more this game.

This just means that I am wrong and he is scum lol(but seriously, lock him town for now)

and I will go find that Aureal quote.

[Doctor Drew]

It'd be a little odd for Penguin to vote her and then dip with her as the lead wagon though, wouldn't it?

Oops mis read it, thought she was saying that Penguin dipped as scum.

Carry on, nothing to see here.

[Doctor Drew]

I like meowmeow, Merlyn, FL for town.

- Alianna

Maybe Roden too.

- Alianna

I hate that I always am worried about Merlyn lol, but she can be town for now

[Doctor Drew]

Pretty sure we both have said something in thread along the lines of 'let me check in with Drew/Alianna before we blah blah'

I literally was just reading these posts on thread like, wtf

[Doctor Drew]

Do you want to bring it up in the public thread or should I?

I am kinda running errands so don't have a lot of time, you can if you want

[Doctor Drew]

Would you vote Infinity?

- Alianna

Just came in here to say their last post seemed defeated, yet still holding onto the read.

They aren't acting in good faith imo.

Hey look, we are discussing reads!! Lol

[Doctor Drew]

So yes, I actually prefer their Lim now

[Doctor Drew]

idk sometimes scum just express their genuine feelings and our gut says this was one of those times ig

[Doctor Drew]

Infinity is flailing now, apparently we are a town read now?

[Doctor Drew]

Man, sometimes the obv scum ain't so obv.

Hopefully we aren't the NK!

[Doctor Drew]

This night phase came at a good time actually, I needed a brief break from Mafia, so I will probably do the same.

[Doctor Drew]

I actually almost just left the site last night, but that will be a discussion for much later.

[Doctor Drew]

I am good, just need to avoid certain people.

But anywho, I do have a bad feeling we will be NK'ed.....hope I am wrong!

[Doctor Drew]

Well day should be starting soon, unless Bianco is too drunk off absinthe again lol.

Let's do this thing!

[Doctor Drew]

Ditto

[Doctor Drew]

Same here, I have been house sitting as well and don't have my laptop, so it is kind of a pain to switch between my main and the hydra lol.

Especially when I am spending most of the day out in the backyard watching the dog running around and day drinking haha.

[Doctor Drew]

I will just give mine in here, then you can tweak as you wish, the we make the final draft.

I should be around most of the day.

[Doctor Drew]

I will just give mine in here, then you can tweak as you wish, the we make the final draft.

I should be around most of the day.

Alright, that works.

FL
Hu
Cakez
Enchant
Aureal
Snivy
CSF
Merlyn
Marci
RC
Meow

CSF is the null line, honestly can't think of anything they have done.

I feel like Cakez is in his town meta, same with Enchant.....but not crazy confident there. Hu is more a gut vibe, and you know how I feel about FL. And Snivy has a posting style that comes off scummy, so I am starting to give them benefit of the doubt.

I have liked Merlyn's recent posting, so I could put her above null to town. But I feel good that there is scum, at least one in RC/Marci/Meow.

I feel like the more the game goes Marci really hasn't done anything of substance, I could be way off though. I also know you disagree with on meow, I even said as much in the game thread lol.

[Doctor Drew]

Lol yeah, we basically have opposite reads on meow.
Why are you scumreading them?

The way they are pushing me just based off the one post I made about Cakez seems weird, especially when they basically have called you town. And they even said their reads aren't really that strong, so whys is their scum read on me over riding the town read on you?

[Doctor Drew]

meow isn't my top townread anymore, but they are still a townread.
I'd put marci and Cakez closer to null (don't have Cakez meta though), but we're otherwise on the same page.
CSF is a good null line, her posting looks nulltown to me every game regardless of her alignment. I literally can't read her.

I actually am not sure why I have Cakez that high, probably would put him just about Snivy now that I think about it more.

And I will defer to you on Meow, I do think I have trouble reading them as a whole(it is an Ausuka alt if you didn't know).

[Doctor Drew]

Feel free to post your updated reads list, I am getting frustrated with all this phone posting lol

Pre Edit: Oh ok, wasn't sure if that was part of the AAAAAAAAA posts you missed lol

[Doctor Drew]

meow isn't my top townread anymore, but they are still a townread.
I'd put marci and Cakez closer to null (don't have Cakez meta though), but we're otherwise on the same page.
CSF is a good null line, her posting looks nulltown to me every game regardless of her alignment. I literally can't read her.

I actually am not sure why I have Cakez that high, probably would put him just about Snivy now that I think about it more.

And I will defer to you on Meow, I do think I have trouble reading them as a whole(it is an Ausuka alt if you didn't know).

I read that post. I don't have much experience with Ausuka, so meta doesn't factor into my read there.

So maybe this is all in her scumrange. Most of her posting just feels really town to me, though, and I don't feel like doing meta to go check.

I have never seen her as scum, but she knows how I sometimes can be as town......don't get her push on me. And even the push seems half hearted(like when she switched to Cakez for.....reasons?)

[Doctor Drew]

That readslist doesn't feel right though for some reason.
If it were just me, I wouldn't be posting one publicly as either alignment here, but if you want me to post a combined hydra readslist in thread (probably would be your 151 with Cakez shifted down and maybe some other minor edits), I can.

No I feel that is actually a pretty good representation of us, minus the Meow read dissonance.

I won't make you post it, but I am kind of a fan personally.

[Doctor Drew]

That readslist doesn't feel right though for some reason.
If it were just me, I wouldn't be posting one publicly as either alignment here, but if you want me to post a combined hydra readslist in thread (probably would be your 151 with Cakez shifted down and maybe some other minor edits), I can.

No I feel that is actually a pretty good representation of us, minus the Meow read dissonance.

I won't make you post it, but I am kind of a fan personally.

It's a good representation, I just look at it and get a gut feeling I'm townreading scum.
I could post it with meow in two different positions on the list. They can be Schrödinger's read (and it makes sense since they're a cat lol).

Ha, do it!

[Doctor Drew]

I was getting bored, put Marci at E-1

[Doctor Drew]

What a rollercoaster there lol.

I almost thought you were reaction testing when I saw you vote her.

[Doctor Drew]

Oooh ok, I did read that as I woke up today so it was a blur of numbers to me.

And yes I am feeling a bit weary of FL, but I try to stick to my first instinct with certain players.....and I know he isn't super mech savvy. So I don't think there is mech manipulation going on here.

[Doctor Drew]

Speaking of voting, I do wonder if Merlyn has a point, but I don't really like Aureal as a counterwagon.

I actually don't like how Merlyn is trying to stop the Marci wagon.

I think we will end up having completely different reads by the end of the game haha.

[Doctor Drew]

Are you thinking Merlyn/marci are partners then?

Kinda leaning towards it.

[Doctor Drew]

Called Merlyn out and put Marci back at E-1

[Doctor Drew]

Lol at our vote flopping this EoD.

VOTE: Alianna

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Marcistar

I think this is good. She's skated by largely on tone so far, but I feel like she's just been coming in to argue against people's scumreads of her instead of trying to find scum

I don't even know that I would even say she's doing that much.

VOTE: marcistar

This is...true. But is it really alignment indicative? I mean, as scum she should know refusing to post reads draws suspicion to her, it's such a basic thing.

Marci doesn't even have a vote on anyone. Is it really likely that there are 3 other players in a PT with her somewhere and they're not asking her to at least try and get on a wagon?

The fact that game has slowed to a crawl and there's no one angling for a different lim makes me think that scum is content with this lim.
VOTE: Aureal I would be better with this lim than Marci

Hu Tao, why are you scum reading Marci?

You really seem to want to make sure Marci stays alive, you are really protecting her in all sorts of ways.

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Yeah, if we're scum partners I would be doing a shitty job distancing myself from her. Really dumb of me when you think of it to fight against a late wagon instead bussing and hopping on.

So you disagree with all of the points I raised in the posts you quoted?

Didn't I make that exact argument in ChatGPT somewhere?

She learns from the best

[Doctor Drew]

I could still see it being Merlyn, and like you said not a good look for Enchant.

But man, why is this game so tough?

[Doctor Drew]

And now my big mathy mechpost is totally invalidated because I didn't predict a no-kill and I have to redo all my sacrifice numbers...on a phone. Ugh.

I specifically didn't read it because of that possibility

[Doctor Drew]

I'll be V/LA through Thursday because I'm not going to have computer access and phoneposting is painful.

- Alianna

Received. Do you wish for this to be mentioned in VCs?

I posted a notice in the thread too, but yes, you can mention it in the VCs.

I did forget to put it in the notes, sorry! I went back and put that in the VCs retroactively

Funny since I will be plenty active.

Maybe I will sign my posts as Alianna just to troll

[Doctor Drew]

I kinda like that idea tbh, if he is going to die anyways.

I am having a bit of a mental health couple of days though......might not be super active the next couple days.

[Doctor Drew]

Ya.....this whole game has been one big gut punch.

[Doctor Drew]

Ya.....this whole game has been one big gut punch.

Yeah. I thought yesterday, “oh, maybe I’ll have time tomorrow to post a few things and coordinate votes,” and then I woke up to a quickhammer. Fun times.

Emotionally I have been a bit of a mess lately as well, I wish I actually cased Enchant better instead of being all mopey.

[Doctor Drew]

Welp, at least I can hang my hat on being correct on FL and enchant lol.

I really hope Merlyn is scum, will be the only thing to make me feel good.

Also, we need to run back this hydra again......we need a proper game together.