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Also i've been spending a long while trying to disrupt her worldview rhat you/t3 are the team

That was literally the point of what i spent the last like 4 irl days doing

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- the night kills are so bizarre and i don't know who makes these, or why. It's a point against everyone so at this point i'm just discounting it and ignoring it. Those kills don't make sense from anyone's perspective

i guess to me last night's is different because instead of like potential wifom i can maybe see it type things but that one like scum!pooky would have had clear path that'd be hard to miss if partnered with t3

Can you translate this please?

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I don't know who medeia was going to vote coming into today

Honestly if i'm scum with pooky to kill medeia and have brass vote ct with me

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*it's easier to just kill medeia

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I think my conclusion is t3/pooky

Should probably do pooky first per the prior logic

I'm gonna be honest i don'f know if i win the 1v1 tho so doing that might be a losing move tho

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I am not mafia >.>
Imagine the oddness you felt from pooky last night

The entire game
He's just been so weird ....

i mean, i'll be honest

if you are town you haven't really demonstrated it to me, and i feel like you are capable of doing so? it's been very hard for me to see your perspective, you've given your reasoning but it's kind of simple and i don't know that you've tried to solve me here like i'd expect.

but if you are the one crossvoting i am willing to hear you out and let you make your case, i'm not automatically voting or anything. this probably comes across as manipulative but i don't know another way to say it.

I've spent literally like the past month reiterating how bizarre pooky is this game

It might be kinda simple but this is my pov:
- he isnt (and never has been) solving. He's been vibing and spending a lot of time telling us how wrong the 'all prs are town perspective so we must flip thru them': from your pov you know this is wrong from your stated reads.
- the only person he had a serious scumread on was rn, which was wrong, and which he used to telegraph pushing ct/paranoia on medeia
- i think he was 100% capable of seeing what i was seeing to point to town-rn, and he just never saw anything townie and just continued to push him. Eventually he just relied on (apparently wrong) mech analysis to vote him out
- i don't believe he never saw anything townie from rn. Rn was scummy on the surface for sure, but pooky's scumread was just very 0-level and he never made an effort to try to look beyond that. I expect that town him could (and would) try to assess if rn is just bad town, and he never did
- it felt like he was relying on making ( apparently wrong) mech-based analyses to push people instead of solving
- he was blase abt which of ct/meuh to vote out: it felt like he didnt care. If you're town and he's scum, that makes a lot of sense
- he's egging me on to vote him now and isnt really solving
- and like his whole vibe this game was off, he never felt genuine. I'm aware this is a vibe that i can't directly validate

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I'm concerned that if i crossvote i don't win this based on where you/t3 are leaning and then it's a losing vote

If you're convinced i'm mafia
And i'm leaning towards your slot being town here

I think the game is less likely to be lost if I vote t3 honestly

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I was in the newbie
I think it's dissimilar too

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I never at any point this game thought pooky was actually solving

Probably sums up my issue with him

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I was equivivating kn waiting for a replacement
Pooky was for replacement
Medeia was for voting you out

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Yeah ...

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I just tell medeia - yeah let's just do it!!!!1!
Boom game over before you get here if ur town

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I never at any point this game thought pooky was actually solving

Probably sums up my issue with him

Or even like cared abt the outcome of any of the flips

Like if he's town he does have that vibe early on but usually at some point he switches to solving/winning/need to get it right mode
(And that's when i can start to townrwad him)

He never did that here

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Don't care isnt quite right
But i never got the vibe you were investing in solving/getting the game right/flipping scum

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I meant like at any point day1-day3
And yes you're going through the motions now but like
Doesnt really feel real
Or like you want to get it right

As your stated goal this elo is literally to make me make the choice
And you apparently don't want to

Also wrt the tunnel i can easily say the same thing that I'm considering all other slots today etc

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so it's like, would have just been choosing this elo instead of that one and it's just so hard to see

I mean someone apparently chose this elo
I have no idea who or why tho

My pooky/t3 reason is the best one i've come up with

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Someone obviousky told ct what to claim if he's scum

Also actually being 1s instead of 2s lends credence to town-peta, the world where he comes in changing the claim is bizarre as scum

Pedit gonna be honest i'm still not following what ur saying

Pedit to distract from obvious scum in t3 and make me viable instead

It's less abt the nk and more abt why pooky os starting a 1v1 with me now

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I never at any point this game thought pooky was actually solving

Probably sums up my issue with him

Or even like cared abt the outcome of any of the flips

Like if he's town he does have that vibe early on but usually at some point he switches to solving/winning/need to get it right mode
(And that's when i can start to townrwad him)

He never did that here

okay - that's a little more interesting to me than "pooky scum because wrong" - that type of argument is unpersuasive to me because it gets said on me and it pisses me off cuz im not that good. idk, i probably need to reread him

Idk if i ever articulated it this way but when i keep saying he feels off this is what i mean

He's never tried to solve
And i never felt like he cared abt the outcome of anything

Like yeah + never having any correct reads
But i never got the sense he cared that he's been so wrong either

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Why again?

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Oh i misread that

Yes
It's the exact same logic i'm using to come up to scum-you

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Oh i misread that

Yes
It's the exact same logic i'm using to come up to scum-you

Like this is the whole logix chain of

If medeia town
And ct/t3 not partnered
Scum pooky

I don't think you ever applied it in reverse till now

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Iirc i was leaning towards town-ct eod yesterday

But yeah i see ur point

Honestly like i said before the night kills are bizarrw enuf that i don't think we're going to easily hit on the right reason

So i am discounting

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Right what peta said too

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Honestly your slot makes fhe most sense making these nks

Idk who lets him tho

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Ok i have like 8 hours
Ig i should just be doing it at this point

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I think town loses
But probablh better thru action than inaction

Again so weird that you've been asking for this 1v1 this whole elo

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Medeia you good with this?

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And yeah sorey if i'm wrong / spent the game tunneling / lose this

But i think this is the best conclusion I'm coming to

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which is to say

i am good with this if you are

and at the very least i am glad that bloodhail replaced in so if we do lose at least it wasn’t to ourselves

I'm ok doing this just want to caution that i'm not like 100% convinced i'm right, but this is the best conclusion i'm coming too

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Idk i have 7 hours to do something you tell me if you want me to force it or not

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Ok i'm not coming to a better conclusion and i need to pretend to do my job so i'm voting pooky imminently

If anyone has any significant objections i should listen to lmk

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I know i don't like being wrong >.>

VOTE: pooky

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I mean if we're both town we never managed to resolve the 1v1 anyways

Now let's see if i'm right on the not-partnership of peta/t3

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Well at least it isnt medeia/Peta

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I had a paranoid thought that i dismissed

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I know i don't like being wrong >.>

VOTE: pooky

being wrong is how you get better at the game skitter

its fine if you're wrong here

we'll get there someday

Thanks :)

So from my pov we're at one of t3/you need to be scum
Right?

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Kk

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Yeah

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I feel like i made a decision and am a little bit absolved from what happens next lol

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Wow

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Wow wow wow lol

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I knew something didn't make sense even withh this solve

Mediea played spectacularly
Good anti-distancing day1

Explains why you were egging on the ct vote

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Sheesh i was pocketed

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Gg all
Medeia that was really good

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Yeah this was one of the games where one of my assumptions was wrong.
Ans things didn't fit but idk where i was going wrong

I don't think i was getting to that solve today

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Peta still don't know what u were scumreading me over lol

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Yep !
Gg everyone!

Sorry pooky again :)

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I'm not even annoyed i just got super outplayed lol

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:)
I mwan i just did it to u lol

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Fwiw i was v close to just doing t3 until you startes talking to medeia abt picking between me/pooky

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I was like: probably the simple answer we're all overlooking

But eh

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Uh what *was* the reasoning for killing brass/sheep?

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Fwiw i was v close to just doing t3 until you startes talking to medeia abt picking between me/pooky

yeah i know i'm absolutely aware i influenced that, sorry

i just did not play well at all, i panicked very badly

All good :)
Medeia just outplayed us all

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Also same i like playing with u peta

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Yep!

Without u the loss would probably have been ct
Instead od pooky

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Ok yeah so i was right to dismiss it there wasnt really a grand plan then i think

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Peta it's all good
Me/pooky def contributed to this ans got it wrong too (and we had a lot more context/time spent in game than you)

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I think you did a good job moving the target off of ct ans did well with what you had

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I'm sorry :(

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Two major points. No, three.

1) It should've been a clue when I jailed Medeia Night 1 and there was no NK Night 1. Next time try to keep these details in mind.

2) Skitter was heavily pocketed by Medeia. You all should have been questioning more why she kept staying alive. Also, Skitter, the player you Townread the most end-game is most likely Scum, and they've worked hard to get there.

3) Medeia was very good this game. I should have pushed harder Days 1 and 2: I was right to be Scumhunting her.

Yes >.>

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Someone's gotta explain to me how you all didn't lim T3

I won't comment on Medeia because I was spoiled for that one but especially after the CT replacement, like, how is T3 not orders of magnitude more likely to flip wolf than any other player in the game

I got there and then thought peta was forcing a me/pooky cross and got distracted

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So ... like I went after T3 pretty hard on Day 1 and Day 2; Day 3 I tried to look at medeia, but everyone ignored me and there was too many posts for me to run analysis on, so I kind of ignored the game for a while.

Was there something better for me to do here?

Ignore all of my/our blithering in elo and just say who you thought was scum, ans why

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Pts?