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[Hu Tao]

Starfire is null for me.

Someone asked me about 3 scumreads. To be honest, I can't think of a strong third at this point. So far I have Bella and Greeting, with a preference for Bella. I could see an argument for StD occupying my third slot but most people who have played more with StD seem to disagree with me quite easily.

ya'll are blatantly mischaracterizing kkfc you don't even give a fuck lmao

Says he scum reads greeting but never tried to push him. Even when I asked him to look into greeting he sidestepped the convo

[BBmolla]

I’m voting for Bella currently. If it gets no traction and the deadline clock starts again I’ll probably pivot to Greeting/Looker or Starfire’s replacement.

what don't you understand about this Hu Tao

[Random Nurse]

BBmolla, if you're Town, work with me please.

What do you think of a Bob or Hu lim today? Or CS or IAVH?

[BBmolla]

Bob maybe

Hu seems townish

CS seems town

IAVH could be scum

I need to wait for more posts today to get a feel for the arcs

[BBmolla]

I still kinda think we should policy you tbh but c'est la vie literally

[Random Nurse]

VC 1.09

Votecount 1.09

Greeting (3):

Political Clout, Save The Dragons, Naerys

Starfire (3):

Bellaphant, Hu Tao, iamveryhappy

Hu Tao (2):

Starfire, Greeting

Political Clout (2):

bob3141, Civil Scum

Naerys (1):

Random Nurse

Bellaphant (1):

KatyKimFanClub

Not Voting (1):

Yimmy

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is currently frozen at 48 hours, pending replacement for Greeting.

here we have kim on greeting counter wagon earlier in the day

here we have bob on greeting counter wagon earlier in the day

So we're Bellaphant, Hu, and IAVH, so...?

Bob's point is dumb and so is his whole case on KKFC

But I was commenting on your point about Bob being on a counter wagon.

My point is that a LOT of people were not voting Greeting at that time, so your point is moot.

[Random Nurse]

I still kinda think we should policy you tbh but c'est la vie literally

Why so hostile?

[BBmolla]

VC 1.09

Votecount 1.09

Greeting (3):

Political Clout, Save The Dragons, Naerys

Starfire (3):

Bellaphant, Hu Tao, iamveryhappy

Hu Tao (2):

Starfire, Greeting

Political Clout (2):

bob3141, Civil Scum

Naerys (1):

Random Nurse

Bellaphant (1):

KatyKimFanClub

Not Voting (1):

Yimmy

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is currently frozen at 48 hours, pending replacement for Greeting.

here we have kim on greeting counter wagon earlier in the day

here we have bob on greeting counter wagon earlier in the day

So we're Bellaphant, Hu, and IAVH, so...?

Bob's point is dumb and so is his whole case on KKFC

But I was commenting on your point about Bob being on a counter wagon.

My point is that a LOT of people were not voting Greeting at that time, so your point is moot.

which is my point against Bob

[BBmolla]

I still kinda think we should policy you tbh but c'est la vie literally

Why so hostile?

I don't really believe your meme claim

[Random Nurse]

I still kinda think we should policy you tbh but c'est la vie literally

Why so hostile?

I don't really believe your meme claim

Well shit, man, I'm all torn up inside now.

[Hu Tao]

[Hu Tao]

I must sleep. Play nice everyone. and look into Kim please.

[Random Nurse]

Bob maybe

Hu seems townish

CS seems town

IAVH could be scum

I need to wait for more posts today to get a feel for the arcs

Let's put aside the hostility and senseless claim-wailing.

Have you played with IAVH before. Yes or no?

[DragonEater70]

VC 2.01

Votecount 2.01

KatyKimFanClub (2):

bob3141, Hu Tao

Civil Scum (1):

Random Nurse

Random Nurse (1):

BBmolla

Not Voting (7):

iamveryhappy, Yimmy, Civil Scum, Political Clout, Save The Dragons, Naerys, KatyKimFanClub

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-08-26 02:56:27).

Mod Notes:

• Here's the Combined Mod ISO.

[BBmolla]

Bob maybe

Hu seems townish

CS seems town

IAVH could be scum

I need to wait for more posts today to get a feel for the arcs

Let's put aside the hostility and senseless claim-wailing.

Have you played with IAVH before. Yes or no?

Yes

[Random Nurse]

Bob maybe

Hu seems townish

CS seems town

IAVH could be scum

I need to wait for more posts today to get a feel for the arcs

Let's put aside the hostility and senseless claim-wailing.

Have you played with IAVH before. Yes or no?

Yes

OK.

When you played with Town IAVH, what was his play/demeanor like?

[bob3141]

VC 1.09

Votecount 1.09

Greeting (3):

Political Clout, Save The Dragons, Naerys

Starfire (3):

Bellaphant, Hu Tao, iamveryhappy

Hu Tao (2):

Starfire, Greeting

Political Clout (2):

bob3141, Civil Scum

Naerys (1):

Random Nurse

Bellaphant (1):

KatyKimFanClub

Not Voting (1):

Yimmy

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is currently frozen at 48 hours, pending replacement for Greeting.

here we have kim on greeting counter wagon earlier in the day

here we have bob on greeting counter wagon earlier in the day

So we're Bellaphant, Hu, and IAVH, so...?

Bob's point is dumb and so is his whole case on KKFC

But I was commenting on your point about Bob being on a counter wagon.

My point is that a LOT of people were not voting Greeting at that time, so your point is moot.

which is my point against Bob

the point is kim claimed a scum read on greeting. so there is no logical reason a town kim wouldnt vote greeting instead they continue to push bella.

[BBmolla]

VC 1.09

Votecount 1.09

Greeting (3):

Political Clout, Save The Dragons, Naerys

Starfire (3):

Bellaphant, Hu Tao, iamveryhappy

Hu Tao (2):

Starfire, Greeting

Political Clout (2):

bob3141, Civil Scum

Naerys (1):

Random Nurse

Bellaphant (1):

KatyKimFanClub

Not Voting (1):

Yimmy

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is currently frozen at 48 hours, pending replacement for Greeting.

here we have kim on greeting counter wagon earlier in the day

here we have bob on greeting counter wagon earlier in the day

So we're Bellaphant, Hu, and IAVH, so...?

Bob's point is dumb and so is his whole case on KKFC

But I was commenting on your point about Bob being on a counter wagon.

My point is that a LOT of people were not voting Greeting at that time, so your point is moot.

which is my point against Bob

the point is kim claimed a scum read on greeting. so there is no logical reason a town kim wouldnt vote greeting instead they continue to push bella.

he said he was voting Bella and then would consolidate on Greeting if needed

is that an amazing play maybe not but I don't see it as unreasonable and he literally did that

[bob3141]

Greeting ISO:

Just going to do the notable posts from my reread since I'm really tired.

56: puts Civil at E-2, which seems kind of illogical when you read 78?

239: It's pretty fair to say Civil gave off Newbie vibes at this point, and personally I think the earnestness was +town, but Greeting saying it's NAI seems ok. There's actually a presumption here that Greeting mentions again in 247 which is that a confused newbie would get townread. I think holding that idea is pretty +town since it indicates to me that at least some scumhunting process in place?

493/516: Feel like Greeting's re-use of some of my arguments against Civil Scum is actually kind of weird? I like how it's phrased as confirmation bias, but that's just a very small thing.

Just generally, I think the responses to all the cross-flak haven't been great, especially since the claim of being productive this game is just untrue.

Also 368 seems truthful, since IAVH definitely got more town from 240 to 368 in my opinion. But that just sort of begs the question of why Greeting has been lurking and then claiming that they're not?

this is on the 9th yet no vote or action against greeting/looker until the 17th. And that was just vote once the greeting execution was clear cut. why the delay, why the push back against me after post 1430

if kim was town he would have voted greeting much sooner and it wouldnt of taken the end of teh day and me pushign him to do so

[bob3141]

VC 1.09

Votecount 1.09

Greeting (3):

Political Clout, Save The Dragons, Naerys

Starfire (3):

Bellaphant, Hu Tao, iamveryhappy

Hu Tao (2):

Starfire, Greeting

Political Clout (2):

bob3141, Civil Scum

Naerys (1):

Random Nurse

Bellaphant (1):

KatyKimFanClub

Not Voting (1):

Yimmy

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is currently frozen at 48 hours, pending replacement for Greeting.

here we have kim on greeting counter wagon earlier in the day

here we have bob on greeting counter wagon earlier in the day

So we're Bellaphant, Hu, and IAVH, so...?

Bob's point is dumb and so is his whole case on KKFC

But I was commenting on your point about Bob being on a counter wagon.

My point is that a LOT of people were not voting Greeting at that time, so your point is moot.

which is my point against Bob

the point is kim claimed a scum read on greeting. so there is no logical reason a town kim wouldnt vote greeting instead they continue to push bella.

he said he was voting Bella and then would consolidate on Greeting if needed

is that an amazing play maybe not but I don't see it as unreasonable and he literally did that

which is classic distancing scum move.

[bob3141]

greeting had 3 votes. adding a fourth would have put the heat on greetign instead they didnt vote and greetings wagon died. being replaced by starfire, pc, Hu and your slot.

not voting then is exactly what scum partner faking a scum read would do. Kim didnt even push the slot during that time. And disloyal doctor is not going to be role scum are going to want to lose unless they have no choice. so kim voting at e-2 when it was a foregone conclusion also fits.

[Naerys]

something about hu tao vs. greeting feels so off

I'd like an explanation on this one. Also I think Bella is getting replaced which is why the deadline might still be frozen to answer your other question

idk the way you both interact with each other, it feels like either one or both of you isn't really interested in engaging with the other

you kinda just talk at each other, and something doesn't feel genuine about the conflict

but I'm having a hard time figuring out which side it is stemming from

or if it is coming from both

Let me just drop this here

[Naerys]

I wanna talk more about how out of sync ghat iavh post is with the rest of the thread

And this

[Naerys]

So Dannflor was suspicious of Hu Tao and iavh and gets nked. Was scum afraid or trying to to lead us on a false trail? I need to think

[Naerys]

Btw i tried to jail civil Scum, i really thought he might be night target, and since we didnt get vig kill its strange he didnt bring it up yet