are you trying to convince me that I am mafia?In post 449, jjh927 wrote: I'm a lot more bothered by your failure to demonstrate town thought process on the townreads you have claimed to hold than I am by the drew vote.
For example, your reference to GL's post on FA feels much more likely to have come from scum paying attention to how other players are being read than it does a town player trying to place people, particularly given you managed to totally forget the very simple reason given for the read you supposedly agreed with
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You are always gonna be my love-
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I'm trying to let you know where I stand and why I do on the chance that you are town, since you might just be genuinely misunderstanding me"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Surely nobody who plays forum mafia would knowingly misrepresent someone"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I dont expect you if you're mafia to say "yes you are right i am chainsawing for drew"You are always gonna be my love-
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so why would i care about your misread of me if you're town?
do you expect me to think you actually believe this nonsense?You are always gonna be my love-
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aristeia can certainly fake a town thought process and believable reads
is your issue jjh that she hasn’t explained them enough, or that her explanations are just bad-
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I think the reasons ultimately given are more likely to come from things scum would notice than town, and I think that Aristeia's thought process is demonstrably rigid and defensive. There are believable conclusions but the work being explained to get there is going backwards, probably because she was caught off guard by the immediate inquisition on the townreads she was supposedly sheepinhg"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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I think her reads have been necessitated or at least encouraged by the game state rather than being trully formed by placing people in the game
And I think I'm good to vote here now.
VOTE: Aristeia"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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Since it was asked, I'll go back a bit just to say I don't even have a particularly strong independent Drew read. I just think he's probably a bit more likely to be town than rand, but rand is pretty decent odds for someone being town. The ratio of game content/early game shitposting is looking relatively positive at this early stage.
That aside, scum!Aristeia makes town!drew a lot more likely from my point of view so my current confidence compounds things a bit"As best I can tell, jjh is some kind of wizard with mind control powers." -Jingle-
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On page 12 right now and I don't really like Aristeia. Her content feels bland and empty and she's avoiding a lot of the topics of discussion. She's talking primarily about mech-related stuff. She only popped into the thread to answer questions and then later to discredit BlueSnakelet.-
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In post 440, Aristeia wrote: jjh feels like hes chainsawing for drew and i would yeet him without hesitation if drew flips mafia
Explain.In post 442, Aristeia wrote: well you're basically implying its scummy to vote drew? that feels like you are trying to keep people from voting him?
He said the people on my wagon are probably town.
And why is saying 'hey Drew might be town's causing such an issue with you?
And someone asked, but I haven't felt any urgency to move off of Osuka at any point, and nothing they have said in there brief catch up here compels me to move.
I don't get there vote on Ranger as well(osuka I mean), have you played with them before?
I probably need to go into sheep mode, so far no real strong scum vibes I am getting yet.
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Can you elaborate? I'm not scumreading him at all.In post 302, Doctor Drew wrote:
Your questioning of Furt seems so hollow, it is like you already made your mind up about him and no matter what he says.....it's the wrong answer.In post 301, Sail wrote:
But you haven't really expressed many reads at this point. It seems like all you're doing is asking clarifying questions. What are your conclusions based on those clarifying questions?In post 230, furtiveglance wrote:
I post at random intervals or if I have a thought about something, or if someone asks me something. I don't usually vote until I see something particularly egregious.In post 223, Sail wrote:
furtive, how would you say that you approach the early game as town?In post 125, furtiveglance wrote: Dusa, can you explain what the demigod stuff means? I think it's the only thing I don't understand in the thread so far.-
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Certainly looks like you are setting him up for a scum read.In post 464, Sail wrote:
Can you elaborate? I'm not scumreading him at all.In post 302, Doctor Drew wrote:
Your questioning of Furt seems so hollow, it is like you already made your mind up about him and no matter what he says.....it's the wrong answer.In post 301, Sail wrote:
But you haven't really expressed many reads at this point. It seems like all you're doing is asking clarifying questions. What are your conclusions based on those clarifying questions?In post 230, furtiveglance wrote:
I post at random intervals or if I have a thought about something, or if someone asks me something. I don't usually vote until I see something particularly egregious.In post 223, Sail wrote:
furtive, how would you say that you approach the early game as town?In post 125, furtiveglance wrote: Dusa, can you explain what the demigod stuff means? I think it's the only thing I don't understand in the thread so far.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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V/LA until Monday (hopefully?)
Struggling to load site / internet where I live is rlly bad :C-
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Really? Yeah, this definitely is a believable thought process, but it's not like it's not a new or interesting thought process at all. I've come across various town and scum players expressing similar versions of Andres' thought process in at least five different games in the past. I just don't understand what distinguishes town!Andres and scum!Andres with that thought process.In post 384, Aristeia wrote: this is a very believable thought process and the way he responds to GL about sail just feels like andres!town talking things out-
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EBWOPIn post 467, Sail wrote:
Really? Yeah, this definitely is a believable thought process, but it's not like it's a new or interesting thought process at all. I've come across various town and scum players expressing similar versions of Andres' thought process in at least five different games in the past. I just don't understand what distinguishes town!Andres and scum!Andres with that thought process.In post 384, Aristeia wrote: this is a very believable thought process and the way he responds to GL about sail just feels like andres!town talking things out-
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Nope, you're almost exactly right! I skimmed through furtive's past few town and scumgames and his play in this game is completely different than his past few scumgames, but it's also not exactly aligned with his towngames. I got the vibes that furtive is a disengaged townie who's trying to get his bearings HOWEVER I was notIn post 388, Fire Assassin wrote:
Something about this post just irks me.In post 301, Sail wrote:
But you haven't really expressed many reads at this point. It seems like all you're doing is asking clarifying questions. What are you conclusions based on those clarifying questions?In post 230, furtiveglance wrote:
I post at random intervals or if I have a thought about something, or if someone asks me something. I don't usually vote until I see something particularly egregious.In post 223, Sail wrote:
furtive, how would you say that you approach the early game as town?In post 125, furtiveglance wrote: Dusa, can you explain what the demigod stuff means? I think it's the only thing I don't understand in the thread so far.
The way the question is asked, perhaps?It seems like someone who knows Furtive is townie but trying to just get the feeling of stances to better idea of where furtive is.The question i have to that theory is why scum Sail would want to know that instead of just doing pushing on them, this could be a queing it up but it also doesn't feel like it.
Maybe its just genuine question? I am very fence sitting this now.
Ill take another look at Sail posts.totally sureabout that, so I wanted to ask him a few questions to see where he is.-
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That makes sense. The only recent Aristeia scumgame I can find is new year's dance party in which Ari was limmed Day 1. She just shitposted the entire day and got flipped, and she only made content when she had to. In Eurybia's Curse (towngame) she had decidedly more content, especially in the early game. This game seems a bit more similar to that scumgame, but I also didn't do a whole lot of reading.In post 430, GuiltyLion wrote: I have an issue with the Aristeia wagon in that I played a game a while back with scum!Ari where town got absolutely suckered and she was in control of the game , playing town leader and leading us astray, I felt so hoodwinked at the end.
and I feel like she's made no real effort so far and the stuff people are registering as scummy is not stuff that scum!Ari is incapable of faking or doing well
so it seems a little too easy to me, I haven't found a reason to TR her but I'm skeptical that scum!Ari couldn't or wouldn't be doing more right now if she needed to-
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I know this wasn't directed at me, but obviously I did have concerns with the way you were approaching Further. But this response by you does make a bit more sense, and I get it if you have never played with him beforeIn post 469, Sail wrote:
Nope, you're almost exactly right! I skimmed through furtive's past few town and scumgames and his play in this game is completely different than his past few scumgames, but it's also not exactly aligned with his towngames. I got the vibes that furtive is a disengaged townie who's trying to get his bearings HOWEVER I was notIn post 388, Fire Assassin wrote:
Something about this post just irks me.In post 301, Sail wrote:
But you haven't really expressed many reads at this point. It seems like all you're doing is asking clarifying questions. What are you conclusions based on those clarifying questions?In post 230, furtiveglance wrote:
I post at random intervals or if I have a thought about something, or if someone asks me something. I don't usually vote until I see something particularly egregious.In post 223, Sail wrote:
furtive, how would you say that you approach the early game as town?In post 125, furtiveglance wrote: Dusa, can you explain what the demigod stuff means? I think it's the only thing I don't understand in the thread so far.
The way the question is asked, perhaps?It seems like someone who knows Furtive is townie but trying to just get the feeling of stances to better idea of where furtive is.The question i have to that theory is why scum Sail would want to know that instead of just doing pushing on them, this could be a queing it up but it also doesn't feel like it.
Maybe its just genuine question? I am very fence sitting this now.
Ill take another look at Sail posts.totally sureabout that, so I wanted to ask him a few questions to see where he is.
Fun fact, I always would scum read him, yet he was always town. Then once I let my guard down a bit, boom.....he is scum. At least the next game I helped with his mis elim, made me feel like the ship was righted lol(i was scum that game).
Love ya Furt haha'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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Which game? I died to poison in Demon Slayer if that's what you're thinking ofIn post 471, Doctor Drew wrote:
I know this wasn't directed at me, but obviously I did have concerns with the way you were approaching Further. But this response by you does make a bit more sense, and I get it if you have never played with him beforeIn post 469, Sail wrote:
Nope, you're almost exactly right! I skimmed through furtive's past few town and scumgames and his play in this game is completely different than his past few scumgames, but it's also not exactly aligned with his towngames. I got the vibes that furtive is a disengaged townie who's trying to get his bearings HOWEVER I was notIn post 388, Fire Assassin wrote:
Something about this post just irks me.In post 301, Sail wrote:
But you haven't really expressed many reads at this point. It seems like all you're doing is asking clarifying questions. What are you conclusions based on those clarifying questions?In post 230, furtiveglance wrote:
I post at random intervals or if I have a thought about something, or if someone asks me something. I don't usually vote until I see something particularly egregious.In post 223, Sail wrote:
furtive, how would you say that you approach the early game as town?In post 125, furtiveglance wrote: Dusa, can you explain what the demigod stuff means? I think it's the only thing I don't understand in the thread so far.
The way the question is asked, perhaps?It seems like someone who knows Furtive is townie but trying to just get the feeling of stances to better idea of where furtive is.The question i have to that theory is why scum Sail would want to know that instead of just doing pushing on them, this could be a queing it up but it also doesn't feel like it.
Maybe its just genuine question? I am very fence sitting this now.
Ill take another look at Sail posts.totally sureabout that, so I wanted to ask him a few questions to see where he is.
Fun fact, I always would scum read him, yet he was always town. Then once I let my guard down a bit, boom.....he is scum. At least the next game I helped with his mis elim, made me feel like the ship was righted lol(i was scum that game).
Love ya Furt haha
And Sail, yeah I'm town good read congrats
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Oh I meant Boons Ahoy(technically you were in a hydra).In post 472, furtiveglance wrote:
Which game? I died to poison in Demon Slayer if that's what you're thinking ofIn post 471, Doctor Drew wrote:
I know this wasn't directed at me, but obviously I did have concerns with the way you were approaching Further. But this response by you does make a bit more sense, and I get it if you have never played with him beforeIn post 469, Sail wrote:
Nope, you're almost exactly right! I skimmed through furtive's past few town and scumgames and his play in this game is completely different than his past few scumgames, but it's also not exactly aligned with his towngames. I got the vibes that furtive is a disengaged townie who's trying to get his bearings HOWEVER I was notIn post 388, Fire Assassin wrote:
Something about this post just irks me.In post 301, Sail wrote:
But you haven't really expressed many reads at this point. It seems like all you're doing is asking clarifying questions. What are you conclusions based on those clarifying questions?In post 230, furtiveglance wrote:
I post at random intervals or if I have a thought about something, or if someone asks me something. I don't usually vote until I see something particularly egregious.In post 223, Sail wrote:
furtive, how would you say that you approach the early game as town?In post 125, furtiveglance wrote: Dusa, can you explain what the demigod stuff means? I think it's the only thing I don't understand in the thread so far.
The way the question is asked, perhaps?It seems like someone who knows Furtive is townie but trying to just get the feeling of stances to better idea of where furtive is.The question i have to that theory is why scum Sail would want to know that instead of just doing pushing on them, this could be a queing it up but it also doesn't feel like it.
Maybe its just genuine question? I am very fence sitting this now.
Ill take another look at Sail posts.totally sureabout that, so I wanted to ask him a few questions to see where he is.
Fun fact, I always would scum read him, yet he was always town. Then once I let my guard down a bit, boom.....he is scum. At least the next game I helped with his mis elim, made me feel like the ship was righted lol(i was scum that game).
Love ya Furt haha
And Sail, yeah I'm town good read congrats
I'll vote soon. I think Drew's town so probably will support another wagon'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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