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Post Post #2550 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:00 am

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I can find it if it exists. Like I said, I’ve mostly been ignoring irch because the way he interacts with me isn’t indicative and afaict that’s most of what he’s been doing.
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Post Post #2551 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:03 am

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Serious question:
Do you think it's possible the all/most of scum are just the lurkers?
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Post Post #2552 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:04 am

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It feels a bit convenient but like, look at the Tommy Edman game that just ended.
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Post Post #2553 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:07 am

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In post 2551, DragonEater70 wrote: Serious question:
Do you think it's possible the all/most of scum are just the lurkers?
are you feeling super stuck this game
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Post Post #2554 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:10 am

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Yes.
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Post Post #2555 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:11 am

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In post 2553, KatyKimFanClub wrote:
In post 2551, DragonEater70 wrote: Serious question:
Do you think it's possible the all/most of scum are just the lurkers?
are you feeling super stuck this game
This might be paranoid of me, but this looks like AMWAY phrasing.
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Post Post #2556 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:11 am

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hug
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Post Post #2557 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:12 am

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LOL I thought that after I posted it. I just felt bad for DE70 because I haven't done shit this game and now I'm probably part of a series of day action resolutions that need to finish before we can move on.
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Post Post #2558 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:17 am

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i'm checked out lets kill someone already
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Post Post #2559 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:20 am

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In post 2551, DragonEater70 wrote: Do you think it's possible the all/most of scum are just the lurkers?
If both Aureal, theta and Cook are town I'd say it's pretty much required. Most of the people who are being active and solvey are pretty transparently town at this point.
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Post Post #2560 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:22 am

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It's not, but unless we're waiting to contemplate DE's plan first, KKFC using neighborhood on DE was the intent. We can talk about things more first though. I'll respond more in depth on it after work.
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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Post Post #2561 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:23 am

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In post 2532, DragonEater70 wrote: We DON'T go offering people Amway randomly like Bingle is doing right now. Instead, we choose the two towniest/solviest players and give one of them Amway, who then gives the other Amway. These two players will be the new heads of Amway.
Then, we flip Aureal and Bingle and Koba are very happy because we finally publicly eveal her role info.
Then, ALL PLAYERS WHO HAVE Amway, EXCEPT the 2 chosen ones, RESIGN their Amway powers during the night. This can be verified and I'll explain later how, but if they don't comply they will be policy limmed.
Then, even if mafia night kills one of the chosen townleaders, at least one of them will remain. This town leader can then recruit the player who they consider towniest, who will recruit the player they consider towniest etc. until all players are recruited. If someone isn't recruited then they didn't comply with instructions and get policy limmed.
Then, the top 5 towniest/solviest players become vigs and can coordinate shots and just shred the PoE list that will be put together.
This isn't far off from what I've been suggesting the whole time, except that 9 rbs is better than 5 vigs and 4 rbs if you're doing coordinated night actions. We also need confirmation that once someone resigns they can be rerecruited.
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Post Post #2562 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:25 am

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In post 2560, Aureal wrote: It's not, but unless we're waiting to contemplate DE's plan first, KKFC using neighborhood on DE was the intent. We can talk about things more first though. I'll respond more in depth on it after work.
It'd be really cool and good for accountability if you'd, you know, list the recruitment phrases.
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Post Post #2563 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:27 am

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They can't be rerecruited, all Amway actions fail on someone who leaves

And listing all phrases would be quoting my PM so no go there
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Post Post #2564 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:27 am

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I've recruited Theta. I have one more recruit and was planning to recruit DE70 until I saw .

Not sure if Theta has recruited anyone.
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Post Post #2565 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:28 am

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Generally, the phrases are all things you would hear if someone would invite you to join a MLM. There are no terms related to mafia gameplay.
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Post Post #2566 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:34 am

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In post 2563, Aureal wrote: And listing all phrases would be quoting my PM so no go there
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It's really annoying to me that that role exists when there's a much simpler way to make the thing it's addressing completely irrelevant. Seriously, just encourage a mod meta where PM formatting is alignment neutral and public and we don't have to worry about "Don't quote your PM" nonsense. It's a site rule that exists because people do a shit job at game design, when we could really just emphasize good game design instead.
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Post Post #2567 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:34 am

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Thanks I guess.

RE: my plan and people feeling checked out and all the other stuff - well I guess if you can't be rerecruited then honestly I don't think it's a good plan anymore, and just as clarification:

@Aureal - if KKFC resigns from Amway now, they will be immune to Amway-created vig?

I'm also heading to bed so I will hopefully have AUreal's answer tomrorow and we see what we do from there.
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Post Post #2568 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:35 am

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In post 2566, Jingle wrote:
In post 2563, Aureal wrote: And listing all phrases would be quoting my PM so no go there
/rant

It's really annoying to me that that rule exists when there's a much simpler way to make the thing it's addressing completely irrelevant. Seriously, just encourage a mod meta where PM formatting is alignment neutral and public and we don't have to worry about "Don't quote your PM" nonsense. It's a site rule that exists because people do a shit job at game design, when we could really just emphasize good game design instead.
Sorry, me. I'm a little loopy from fever and mostly posting because I don't have anything else to do while home sick from work.
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Post Post #2569 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:40 am

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If leaving AMWAY makes you AMWAY immune there's no point in AMWAY besides turning Theta into a desperate neighborizor and all of my points against aureal get much stronger, because there isn't even really a benefit to the power for town.
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Post Post #2570 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:52 am

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@ircher to see what happens and I've resigned myself to be okay with either death.
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Post Post #2571 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:36 am

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In post 2558, Skygazer wrote: i'm checked out lets kill someone already
Kill Cook.
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Post Post #2572 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:39 am

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In post 2570, Political Clout wrote: @ircher to see what happens and I've resigned myself to be okay with either death.
Didn't Cook have more votes at the time? What did you expect to happen?
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Post Post #2573 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:28 am

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the recruitment phrases are very specific and as far as i can tell have to be exact including potentially formatting

neither part of the day recruiting counts as an action and thus targeting modifiers like desperate will not effect it
however any abilities earned from being in amway would be
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as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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Post Post #2574 (ISO) » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:30 am

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In post 2543, DragonEater70 wrote: Also, just to be clear:
This might look like pocketing, but this is actually a very useful skill called "making connections". It's very hard for town to win together when they can't trust each other, in the same way that it's hard for scum to win when they don't work together.
making friends with scum is how you lose bud

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