Night Watch Open 95 - Game Over before 703

orangepenguin · Post Post #475 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:43 pm

TCS, I understand completely now. I guess your suspicion on me was justified, but with the reveal of Haschel, you should realize everything now.

orangepenguin · Post Post #476 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:49 pm

That was really interesting. I planned on having to decide between camm and TCS, and was planning on voting for TCS, but reading the last page, I am 100% he is town and Herschal is 100% scum.

Jex · Post Post #477 (ISO) » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:06 pm

Haschel is taken to the back room and strung up to hang. Congratulations, one mafia member down.

It is now night time. Day will start when I have received all night actions.

Jex · Post Post #478 (ISO) » Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:39 pm

Last night ended with another sad death. The Central Scrutinizer was found dead after prowling the streets. Your second Watcher is dead.

Day 2 Begins Now

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

orangepenguin · Post Post #479 (ISO) » Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:43 pm

Crazy is either a townie or a goon.

orangepenguin · Post Post #480 (ISO) » Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:46 pm

Haschel Cedricson wrote:Help, I won't be around to stop my lynch, so it looks like it's me today. Way to stick to the plan, guys.

Worst distancing ever.

vote: HC

afatchic · Post Post #481 (ISO) » Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:52 pm

Well, that was expected. Post some more thoughts in just a second.

afatchic · Post Post #482 (ISO) » Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:58 pm

SC-When you claimed to hide behind the same person N1 and 2 i thought it was because you was a different PR(watcher, Rolecop) so i didn't push the issue. But now all Power Roles are outed, and that wasn't the case. So why exactly did you do that?

afatchic · Post Post #483 (ISO) » Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:13 pm

heres my general ideas about everyone, in no certain order:
Ortolan- he completely turned around the wagon off of the watcher and onto the scum at deadline yesterday. otherwise we would have lynched watcher and still have all remaining scum. so im really thinking townie here.
OrangePenguin- Power Role, enough said--- Townie
Camn- still unsure about, she did some things day 1 that i really didn't like, but also did some that i did like.-- neutral at best.
xtoxm- lurked majority of day one. absent once suspicion arose about him-----scum/neutral
IcemanE-got a generally townie vibe from him day 1, he seemed to be doing genuine scumhunting.--- townie.
StrangerCoug- still baffled by the hiding behind the same person n1 and 2, after it had already been pointed out not to do it. scum/neutral
Crazy- don't remember much about him, i think he lurked most of day 1. -----scum/neutral
Bion.- He had some things i liked and some things i didn't like.--- neutral.

So right now my top three would be:
Xtoxm
Crazy
StrangerCoug

Xtoxm · Post Post #484 (ISO) » Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:25 pm

Even though my vote was the one that basically changed the lynch from the wathcer to the mafia...

icemanE · Post Post #485 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:09 am

Xtoxm wrote: Even though my vote was the one that basically changed the lynch from the wathcer to the mafia...

HC wrote: Worst distancing ever.

vote: HC

Applicable?

ortolan · Post Post #486 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:13 am

I think it's hard to read Post 472 as anything more than WIFOM

Even then, I'd actually be slightly more inclined to believe it's deliberately misleading i.e. the scum were the ones *not* voting for him

bionicchop2 · Post Post #487 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:09 am

orangepenguin wrote:Crazy is either a townie or a goon.

This is a bad reveal.

1. It doesn't give town any useful information.

2. It tells scum (if crazy isn't scum) that crazy isn't hider. This makes it easier for scum to find the hider.

3. It reveals your exact power role - what I wanted to avoid yesterday. If scum thought you might be hider, it at least made them double guess as far as night kills go.

bionicchop2 · Post Post #488 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:12 am

afatchic wrote:SC-When you claimed to hide behind the same person N1 and 2 i thought it was because you was a different PR(watcher, Rolecop) so i didn't push the issue. But now all Power Roles are outed, and that wasn't the case. So why exactly did you do that?

This is a totally pointless question. Look at when TCS FoS'd me and I responded. If he is hider, you are wasting time getting into a debate with a town player. If he is not, his choices do not matter.

ortolan · Post Post #489 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:12 am

I agree and was considering posting similar on the first two points, but we already knew he was the rolecop because if he was the hider he would have died when Kmd was killed

bionicchop2 · Post Post #490 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:14 am

ortolan wrote:I think it's hard to read Post 472 as anything more than WIFOM

Even then, I'd actually be slightly more inclined to believe it's deliberately misleading i.e. the scum were the ones *not* voting for him

Agreed with the first part, not with the 2nd part.

It should have ZERO impact on any decisions anybody make. There is no way to logically conclude anything from a statement made by scum when they know they will be lynched or in the twilight period.

bionicchop2 · Post Post #491 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:17 am

ortolan wrote:I agree and was considering posting similar on the first two points, but we already knew he was the rolecop because if he was the hider he would have died when Kmd was killed

How? He didn't claim to hide behind KMD. Nobody did.

bionicchop2 · Post Post #492 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:18 am

bionicchop2 wrote:
ortolan wrote:I agree and was considering posting similar on the first two points, but we already knew he was the rolecop because if he was the hider he would have died when Kmd was killed
How? He didn't claim to hide behind KMD. Nobody did.

nm. Yeah I figured out he was RC yesterday too. Was hoping scum didn't and I guess I forgot why I figured that out.

StrangerCoug · Post Post #493 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:31 am

afatchic wrote:SC-When you claimed to hide behind the same person N1 and 2 i thought it was because you was a different PR(watcher, Rolecop) so i didn't push the issue. But now all Power Roles are outed, and that wasn't the case. So why exactly did you do that?

I simply did not understand the hider role. I agree with bionicchop2's #488.

No real reads on anybody (both of my late Day 1 suspects are power roles and one of them is dead), but I hate #479.

The Central Scrutinizer · Post Post #494 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:27 am

I made it so obvious, but I'm still pissed that orangepenguin outed me completely. Try not to do that, like, ever. If I had wanted to claim, I'd have claimed.

Go town.

Crazy · Post Post #495 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:45 am

Pff, I didn't get what happened until I reread during the night-time. OP's the rolecop; TCS watched Kmd Night 0 and received the targets of OP and Panda Stomper, which is why he said the whole 50% thing.

OP wrote:Crazy is either a townie or a goon.

Why me? In the hypo-claim, I said I hid behind Panda Stomper. So if I was the hider, I'd be dead. So I was already confirmed to be either vanilla or a goon... so investigating me was rather pointless.

ortolan wrote:I think it's hard to read Post 472 as anything more than WIFOM

Even then, I'd actually be slightly more inclined to believe it's deliberately misleading i.e. the scum were the ones *not* voting for him

Could be. Anyway, it was a good thing I wasn't around at deadline... the first time I read the end of the day, I had no clue what was happening.

And we had no hider death, so we have a confirmed townie in the future... whenever the hider dies.

camn · Post Post #496 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:58 am

Wow.

So look.. @OP.. you are confirmed town at this point... but you basically are working for the mafia. The only information you can possibly give us is the identity of the HIDER, which will really only help the scum.

So... Don't. Please. Stop.

No more info from you! Keep looking for your OWN knowledge, because having a confirmed townie will help YOU.. but there is no real reason to tell the rest of us! Not till endgame, if you make it that far.

That said.. it is true, TCS was dead man walking.
Also, I agree almost entirely with afatchics summation.. which I know is lame.. but I am supposed to be studying!
Also.. just because I take notes and there is a hole in my spreadsheet.....@ BIONIC.... I have you down for hiding behind HC last night... but that obviusly didn't happen. You might have mentioned it, but who DID you hide behind?

bionicchop2 · Post Post #497 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:06 am

Yeah, I didn't get a chance to mention because the thread was locked. I reverted back to Xtoxm. I felt I had to in case I died hiding, it was the only hope I had of someone figuring out who I hid behind.

Xtoxm · Post Post #498 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:41 am

Yay, another game with me OP and Bio being confirmed town

orangepenguin · Post Post #499 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:57 am

Since everyone knows, I investigated KMD totally randomly. I was going to choose someone less random, but I investigated KMD because that wasn't my first pic. I got watcher. He dies. I totally missed the TCS comment (as in, I didn't get what he meant). If I did, that would've saved us a lot of trouble.