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Post Post #8700 (ISO) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:37 am

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Spoiler: uuh
obviously organ, concert, opera are out; possibly jack too but that's a stretch. Other than that I don't see anything we can exclude? Mostly I'm very confused by a starting 0-clue, idk how can we guess anything at all unless just semirandomly
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Post Post #8701 (ISO) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:04 pm

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Without looking at the previous spoiler, here are my thoughts:

Spoiler: Black keys are the assassin's tools ...

First layer: finding things that match with Piano, then avoiding them.
CONCERT: a place one would expect to find a piano. Confidence in avoiding this: high.
ORGAN: a keyboard instrument, much like a piano. Confidence in avoiding this: high.
OPERA: at least an indirect connection here - both connected to musical performances. Confidence in avoiding this: medium.
DANCE: starting to stretch things out here, but similar to OPERA. Confidence in avoiding this: low.

So I'd say we don't guess any of the above, and probably
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Second layer: why did we get a zero clue here? Best guess: there's an advanced technique where you try to knock out a word that's preventing you from giving a super-awesome huge clue - and then we have to puzzle out what that super-awesome clue is.

Knocking out ORGAN opens up body parts ... but the board really doesn't have any? Closest thing it has are clothes / accessories - RING, PANTS, and there's no reason to use a fancy zero clue to take out ORGAN when you can just clue WEAR, 2.
Knocking out CONCERT ... looks a little more promising. STADIUM? RING (like a boxing ring)? ROW (think seating)? Maybe even COMIC? (like a comedian, not like comic book). Something like VENUE, 4, except that CONCERT looks really tasty with a VENUE clue.

Tentative thoughts: open with a guess of STADIUM and see what happens, since we have to guess something.
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Post Post #8702 (ISO) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:16 pm

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All right, so we agreed on at least three of the "don't guess" words, and the one we didn't was my low confidence word.

biancospino, if you see this before looking at my spoiler, try this first:

Do you see anything that looks like a big group of words that would be easy to clue if one or more of the don't guess words were missing?

Example:

Say that you want to clue HORSE, DOG, DUCK, and PANDA, but CAT is the assassin. ANIMALS, 4 would be a gimme, except that guessing CAT is death.
So instead, you clue FELINE, 0. That tells your partners: don't guess CAT, but also tells them - CAT is a huge obstacle, and the prize that it's blocking is something that's worth two clues. So we look for things that would be easy to pick off - and a big enough payoff - if it weren't for the CAT.

See if anything looks like it would follow that pattern, then check my spoiler for my thoughts on what does.
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Post Post #8703 (ISO) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:26 pm

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Oh. That is actually clever, is it a standard thing players generally do? Now that you've explained seems obvious but I doubt I would ever get it on my own.

Anyway, problem is I had read your spoiler before 8702. Other than that grouping, I can also see something like ENTERTAINMENT (Stadium/Comic/Dance/
Opera
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Agreed that Organ doesn't seem like it relates to anything. I don't really agree that Dance should be excluded, but I guess maybe
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Post Post #8704 (ISO) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:38 pm

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My confidence in DANCE is low, so I wouldn't put too much stock in it. Especially since typically, use of a 0 clue in this fashion is supposed to be pretty focused.

As far as the tactic goes: the rulebooks in Duet mention it. I don't think I've actually seen anyone try to do it, though. So this is a first, and it's entirely possible that it means something completely different.

So the question here is, where do we want to start - and assuming we get a hit, how much risk do we want to take after?
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Post Post #8705 (ISO) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:48 pm

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I think that OPERA is too risky, but probably DANCE is not; just it isn't fit to be a first or second guess.

I say we try STADIUM for now?
Then probably one of ROW or COMIC could make sense ig
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Post Post #8706 (ISO) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:52 pm

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Let's see what happens!

Guess: STADIUM
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Post Post #8707 (ISO) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:27 pm

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stadium is blue
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Post Post #8708 (ISO) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:29 pm

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So either we just got lucky or we're on the right track.

Between Comic and Row, I'm thinking maybe Comic? It ties in with both the Venue line of thinking and the Entertainment line of thinking.
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Post Post #8709 (ISO) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:31 pm

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Throwing DANCE into the mix isn't out of the question either, I think.
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Post Post #8710 (ISO) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:32 pm

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Fine with me, I also do like it more. If this is blue, personally I'd go DANCE after tbh

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Post Post #8711 (ISO) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:45 pm

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comic is Neutral

ROW
ORGAN
KNIGHT
COMIC
BLOCK
LINK
DAY
BARK
LAB
DANCE
STADIUM
SPACE
CHOCOLATE
AIR
PANTS
STRIKE
OPERA
CONCERT
ATLANTIS
ROUND
FLY
RING
KING
JACK
SHIP


Blue Clues
Red Clues
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Piano - 0


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Post Post #8712 (ISO) » Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:46 pm

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It's now red team's turn.

Charles still hasn't picked up his PM and may have siteflaked. I'll give him another 24 hours to let me know he's still playing before I replace him

Speaking of which, if you're reading this and are interested in being a replacement, please PM me :)
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Post Post #8713 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 5:17 am

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If someone doesn't replace in, I'll take over for Charles and try to give a clue tonight
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Post Post #8714 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:26 am

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OK, fine.

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Post Post #8715 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:53 am

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yay!!
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Post Post #8716 (ISO) » Fri Aug 25, 2023 7:14 am

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In post 8715, StrangerCoug wrote: OK, fine.

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Post Post #8717 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:47 am

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COOKIE - 2
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Post Post #8718 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:15 am

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Spoiler: ideas

I've really only got cookie and round?
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Post Post #8719 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:51 pm

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Chocolate and round you mean? those were the two I saw
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Post Post #8720 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:14 pm

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Lol I did mean chocolate
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Post Post #8721 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:23 pm

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I’m good with those two, shall we lock in?
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Post Post #8722 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 2:12 pm

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let's do it, fingers crossed:

chocolate
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Post Post #8723 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 3:43 pm

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Those are both red :)
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Post Post #8724 (ISO) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 3:59 am

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are you good with passing, since that was all of our words?

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