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Post Post #2125 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:58 pm

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In post 2127, the worst wrote: hmm. i guess if i were scum, rn would be firmly in the bucket of like "people i should turn people on to win the game".

do you have a read on dragons atp?
yeah, and if i were scum, i'd be pretty much playing this the same as i am right now. keep the poe as wide open as possible while feigning confusion. it doesn't really mean much, but that's why i'm paranoid of you & why you should probably be paranoid of me.

nothing notable on dragon. bob just seems confident, & they're v/la otherwise they'd be on my chopping block.
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Post Post #2126 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:58 pm

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actually i'm still paranoid on bob but because of the concept of the scum strat "keep the poe as wide open as possible" i've kind of just quelled it for my own sake LOL
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Post Post #2127 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:06 pm

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you're in my "d3 pass" range, not outside of my poe. i think the consensus poe is flawed, and i think this plist is collectively more able to get a good solve on d4. especially if we get a decent lim today (any of like - yimmy, iavh, dragons, rn or like tbh i'd be a passable lim; you would be fine but similarly just not in a preference); plus vig shot in the same pool.

thing is i don't really want a wide poe. i just don't think i vibe the popular lim choices all that much.
In post 2129, iambrad wrote: actually i'm still paranoid on bob but because of the concept of the scum strat "keep the poe as wide open as possible" i've kind of just quelled it for my own sake LOL
i don't like meta casing very much because it's boring and convincing, but bob is easily the read i am the least stressed about. he's super town.
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Post Post #2128 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:09 pm

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In post 2130, the worst wrote: you're in my "d3 pass" range, not outside of my poe. i think the consensus poe is flawed, and i think this plist is collectively more able to get a good solve on d4. especially if we get a decent lim today (any of like - yimmy, iavh, dragons, rn or like tbh i'd be a passable lim; you would be fine but similarly just not in a preference); plus vig shot in the same pool.

thing is i don't really want a wide poe. i just don't think i vibe the popular lim choices all that much.
In post 2129, iambrad wrote: actually i'm still paranoid on bob but because of the concept of the scum strat "keep the poe as wide open as possible" i've kind of just quelled it for my own sake LOL
i don't like meta casing very much because it's boring and convincing, but bob is easily the read i am the least stressed about. he's super town.
ideally yes it wouldn't be so wide, but i just can't help but see a universe where anybody is wolf. hu tao is like my strongest townread, and then bob follows it naturally. everything from there gets really wonky, but random nurse is pretty high up there just for how they've played the day 3. again, not a last wolf maneuver. naerys then follows though i'm not sure about the slot, but he can probably live to f3 in any case. everything else is wide open for me.
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Post Post #2129 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:15 pm

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naerys uses she pronouns

our hard townreads are very shuffled, i'm pretty firmly bob > naerys > hu tao right now. perhaps hu tao is the person of the three who i'm concerned is the biggest threat, since honestly their dayplay has been really towny.

i think my concern abt rn's play here is similar to my concern about his claim. it's solid, and i could believe it, but it's really nowhere near clearing fmpov. i might also be a bit perplexed that he's just under so many people's radars and intent on shining a light on him, moreso than actually explicitly scumreading him. but i don't have any hard silver bullet scumreads. rn seems a bit checked out & is anti-charisma so i'm wary that if he does go the whole way, he's probably pretty not that hard to swing a lim in a f3 situation.

might go have a look at yimmy's read on rn again
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Post Post #2130 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:23 pm

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In post 2018, Yimmy wrote:whatever
this is like... the same as yimmy's read posts d1 - i just find it really perplexing reading this and thinking that people are thinking this is a fabricated read. it's unpopular, unlikely to go through, and is so semantic and unstructured i think it's more of a "got you" feeling than a fake read.

if i put this through a "rn is anticharismatic town" lens, it's also like, not containing a lot of things which make me go "rn is working from a scum mindset". but also i'm glad someone else is not townreading rn!

maybe this is a thing
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Post Post #2131 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:20 pm

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For now

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Post Post #2132 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:27 pm

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am i missing something here
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Post Post #2133 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:32 pm

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Post Post #2134 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:34 pm

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In post 2134, bob3141 wrote: For now

VOTE: Yimmy

Why Yimmy, Bob?

I'd prefer an iambrad lim to get some answers, and I do not trust worsts's slot either. I'm OK with one of these three so far, but STD and Naerys and the others need to start posting more, especially STD.
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Post Post #2135 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:51 pm

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dragons is v/la, i think if we go there we need to be ready to lim
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Post Post #2136 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:53 pm

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dragons seems to lose a lot of steam as scum as the game goes on. he did things d1 (though imo nothing clearing?), scum was guiltied d2, and he's away d3. he's currently v/la.

his current contributions aren't satisfactory for him to be townread from my perspectiev, and nothing i've seen has convinced me on it. he needs to be pressured more to be accurately readable. he's also getting a lot of townreads for reasons that have me scratching my head a bit.
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Post Post #2137 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:56 pm

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which isn't to shade him for activity or for being busy irl. he is acting in a way which is consistent with his scumgame though. he's a very very valuable slot to keep pressure on.
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Post Post #2138 (ISO) » Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:58 pm

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I dont understand, why the low suspicion towards brad. His early refusal to claim was anti town at best. I might be affected by a tunnel vision tho.
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Post Post #2139 (ISO) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:01 am

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i think the way he's played today would have been a very strange, very poor decision if he was the last member of the mafia. i do think he needs more scrutiny, but i think just blindly eliminating him today is a bad decision.

not a tonne of people agree with me here. if you don't that's totally fair, can you talk to me about how you feel about dragons, yimmy, iavh or rn?
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Post Post #2140 (ISO) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:21 am

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Dragons feels strange to me. I was not fond of his troll posts, but i dont feel scum vibes from him. He just feels like a low post townie, that drops in and out however he likes.
About Yimmy, well its strange how he went from being suspicious of KKFC at 639 to town reading him at 780
In post 1331, Yimmy wrote: In post 1310, Looker wrote:
In post 1188, Yimmy wrote:
yeah that's why i initially didn't intend to follow through!
Who should we be voting? I'll follow you until the end.
Feels very sus actually
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Post Post #2141 (ISO) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:25 am

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In post 1988, Yimmy wrote: sorry again for being mostly absent today. but, like i'm comfortable hammering brad. he should be able to tell that there is pressure on that slot because of a claim lol
intent to hammer

gonna give him one more post i think (or just vote before i go to bed. whichever is sooner)
Tho this gives me a bit of town vibes. Makes me bit confused.
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Post Post #2142 (ISO) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:27 am

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In post 780, Yimmy wrote:
KatyKimFanClub
is a very good post
is a quality post
is good again
is super valid
is a little defensive i think. I guess it’s because bella said it was shade. That makes sense
i feel like kkfc maybe should’ve backed off after he sorted civil. I wouldn’t have either though
yeah this is town
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it does
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- is funny

so reads are (not ordered in tiers):
town
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kkfc

light town: iavh, hu tao, naerys
null: starfire, bellaphant
light scum: rn, greeting, pc
scum: cs (this might not actually be a good read. i do not like reading his posts)

naerys - yimmy already talked through their kkfc townread here and basically formed a kkfc fan club. to me, this doesn't really look like a read on a partner. what do you think?
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Post Post #2143 (ISO) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:31 am

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I think such amount of trust at that stage is strange.
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Post Post #2144 (ISO) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:33 am

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In post 487, iamveryhappy wrote:
In post 484, Random Nurse wrote:
Who here is interested in voting Hu Tao currently?
me
I would switch to Naerys if you wanted me to
When it comes to iavh lets not forget this little gem.
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Post Post #2145 (ISO) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:38 am

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And RN feels like agressive town to me.
Okay, accepting the fact that brad might have been my target fixation, there are 2 slots i think that truly need solving. And thats
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UNVOTE: iambrad
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Post Post #2146 (ISO) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:39 am

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In post 215, Naerys wrote: As of right now, i believe atleast 1 scum is lurking. Bazuf/ Greeting are rather unreadable thanks to low posts and i am starting to believe atleast one of them is a scum.
If Yimmy is scum, i will die from laughter.
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Post Post #2147 (ISO) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:41 am

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In post 2141, Naerys wrote: I dont understand, why the low suspicion towards brad. His early refusal to claim was anti town at best. I might be affected by a tunnel vision tho.
The thing is anti town doesnt automatically mean scum. and anti-scum automatically doesnt mean town.

If you look at kims iso does it look like kim/civl was s/s to you. To me it looks s/t
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Post Post #2148 (ISO) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:43 am

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last last scum is most likely in worst/yimmy/dragon

nurse/naerys leaves a hole in town power and thats with the assumption that one of the vt is actualy a vig.
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Post Post #2149 (ISO) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:44 am

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and Kims next 5 posts show a serous push against civil

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