Veiled Committee Mafia: List Mods Edition [game over]

[DragonEater70]

wtf why are people voting Yimmy????

[DragonEater70]

viewtopic.php?p=13872390#p13872390 is the rest of the massclaim btw

[ofrhz]

I really think Yimmy is scum. That said I'm going to do an unofficial vc and then vote whichever of Cook/Yimmy is top wagon

[DragonEater70]

Please don't vote Yimmy. I see zero scumminess from them. What makes you scumread them?

[ofrhz]

UNOFFICIAL VC

5 players voting for Aureal (Bingle, Cook, Political Clout, Yimmy, Meuh, DkKoba)
4 players voting for Cook (Ranger, Ircher, Theta Alpine, Aureal)
4 players voting for Yimmy (ofrhz, Save the Dragons, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub)
1 player voting for KatyKimFanClub (Skygazer)
1 player voting for DragonEater70 (AniX)

1 player not voting (DragonEater70)

with 17 votes, it takes 9 to eliminate.

@DE you're not voting?

[DragonEater70]

I think you and Meuh are actually tunneled.

And I say that because I predicted you might scumread the slot before I opened page 142 even though I TR'd Yimmy for 3521 on page 141.

[ofrhz]

Please don't vote Yimmy. I see zero scumminess from them. What makes you scumread them?

See 2685

I also just finished a game with Random Nurse where I was scum with him, and they are a "do nothing" scum player when they're not getting pressured. His towngames showed more initiative in terms of game solving. He doesn't need to be pressured to show some game solving intent as town.

[ofrhz]

Anyway I will VOTE: Cook to make that wagon slightly larger

[ofrhz]

I don't think I am tunneled. I do think Meuh's posts might be S/S with Yimmy, but

that

might be tunneled. Who knows

[ofrhz]

Please don't vote Yimmy. I see zero scumminess from them. What makes you scumread them?

Please vote Cook

[DragonEater70]

@DE you're not voting?

Apparently not
Still getting my thoughts together

[DragonEater70]

Please don't vote Yimmy. I see zero scumminess from them. What makes you scumread them?

See 2685

I also just finished a game with Random Nurse where I was scum with him, and they are a "do nothing" scum player when they're not getting pressured. His towngames showed more initiative in terms of game solving. He doesn't need to be pressured to show some game solving intent as town.

I have read it and even agreed with you back then, but I think it's odd that you go back to pushing Random Nurse's slot right after a towny replacement takes over the slot.

[ofrhz]

I also think Yimmy's posting is a really awkward pivot onto an Aureal vote.

Leans town on Cook for 3089, which is a reach. Well, of course it is a reach; Yimmy claims to have only read 20 pages, and you'd have to reach pretty hard to end up townreading Cook's posting in the last 20 pages. Hope he didn't pull a muscle doing that maneuver.

[ofrhz]

I think you and Meuh are actually tunneled.

And I say that because I predicted you might scumread the slot before I opened page 142 even though I TR'd Yimmy for 3521 on page 141.

What did you like about 3521?

[DragonEater70]

Their viewpoint is similar to mine, also this sounds extremely similar to the town!yimmy I know.

[DragonEater70]

Okay that Cook TR is indeed a reach. Do you think they are scumbuddies?

[Skygazer]

or we could flash wagon my vanity vote

[ofrhz]

They can be. I think they're independently scummy, and I don't see anything to rule out SvS

anyway i do not feel like compiling my reads at all cause i've already been reading for like 3 hours. you will just have to guess. i feel like i should have an opinion on cook, but i don't right now. i will think about it more tomorrow

I guess Yimmy actually ended up null on Cook? Still seems strange to call out 3089 as a post to like

[ofrhz]

or we could flash wagon my vanity vote

Kinda think KKFC is just town

[DragonEater70]

Aureal and Koba, please DO NOT read the contents of the spoiler below. It will just make you want to scream at me or strangle me to death.

Everyone else, and especially Political Clout and camelCasedSnivy, go ahead and read.

Spoiler:

First, CCS and PC, please read this. You are the two slots I'm 200% confident are town. I want to ask your advice / second opinion.
So normally I'm pretty confident in my reads, and this game I was also pretty confident about my reads until around when the Aureal vs Koba and Bingle thing started. Since that point, it feels like everyone is telling me that I'm crazy and that all my reads are incorrect (this might be a bit hyperbole but it does feel a bit like that).
I know that this is a social manipulation game and scum's main tools are social manipulation, so saying that I'm crazy or my reads are incorrect could be scum motivated. The thing is it's coming from Koba and Aureal, two people who at that time I was townreading (btw my reads on Aureal have fluctuated a lot, but my basic feeling is that her posts read scummy af but she just isn't scum, and rather a very very frustrated and tilted town). So I find it hard to believe that this is SvS theatre.
But anyway since that point that they started to attack my reads and get frustrated with me, I got into paranoia mode and now I don't know if my super duper TR of ofrhz is a good read or not. Or if my SR of Cook is good or not. Or if I should be townreading or scumreading Aureal.
Maybe I should just put these doubts aside, but I would like to hear your thoughts, guys. Do you think I'm pocketed? Do you think I'm just paranoid? Do you more or less agree with my reads? Or do you absolutely hate them?
Thanks

[DragonEater70]

Fuck this post sucks why did I post it

[DragonEater70]

Right now this is where I'm at:

Condifently town - CCS, PC, Yimmy, Skygazer
Probably town and I'm just paranoid about "powerwolfing" - Koba, Ranger, Ofrhz
I've townread them earlier but already forgotten why - StD, Bingle
I don't really care for these slots tbh - AniX, Theta, KKFC
Probably scum but I can't convince even myself of it: Ircher, Meuh, Aureal
Slot I really want to scumread but get bullied by Koba for scumreading: Cook

[DragonEater70]

Btw Koba, I saw that goddess role you linked, that sounds crazy.

I totally see why you'd suspect a similar role.

Also I feel the way the Yimmy coubter wagon happened is suspicious and was maybe done to defend Aureal? But I townread most people voting there...

Blegh, I can't think right now. I will probably figure this out later. I mean we have almost 4 full days to deadline.

[Skygazer]

why are you confidently town on me??

[DragonEater70]

Because saying "let's go for a vanity vote" in this game state doesn't come from scum

Because I tr'd your posts between pages 116-123 (I don't remember what they were though atm)

Because I need to be confident SOMEONE is town or I'll go mad. And 2 people aren't enough.

Also, I don't think you made any posts that made me go "this could come from scum"