Micro 1090: Fruit Mafia - Vegetable Chat

[DragonEater70]

I mean I guess that flips change a lot but I don't think killing Datisi is the move here

[DragonEater70]

Since we're 2 PRs, how many PRs do you think town has?

[DragonEater70]

And do you think the Miller claim is legit? Because I really don't think anyone right now is behaving like a cop

[DragonEater70]

Except maybe Marci is cop on you in which case it idk if it is a good idea to kill her, then lim you and take it to f3, or not kill her and risk people believing her claim.

[DragonEater70]

Actually she probably isn't cop because if she was she would've pushed you harder

[Aristeia]

And do you think the Miller claim is legit? Because I really don't think anyone right now is behaving like a cop

pretty sure its real

no idea if there is a cop in the game

[Aristeia]

They are all paranoid about each other though

thats true

i think killing marci is more fun because ausuka-datisi-skitter endgame is like fun to play but i think its lower EV in terms of likelihood to win

mmm what do you think? more fun endgame or more likely to win endgame?

[DragonEater70]

I think we go for fun because tbh I would have zero idea how to play an endgame with Marci

[DragonEater70]

Aristeia rolecops Datisi

DE70 Strongman kills Marci

Is this okay?

[Aristeia]

I think we go for fun because tbh I would have zero idea how to play an endgame with Marci

I mean I guess that works

[Aristeia]

I think the datisi kill is like 100% better for winrate but I love him so much I just can't do it

[Aristeia]

killing marci when she's not even playing is such a flex kill

[Aristeia]

Aristeia rolecops Datisi

DE70 Strongman kills Marci

Is this okay?

good with me ^^

[DragonEater70]

killing marci when she's not even playing is such a flex kill

The thing is I am like 90% sure that her not playing is exactly why she just lolvotes us in f5 and then Skitter probably prefers her to us

But actually nvm I think skitter said Marci is scummy and it's true that killing Datisi leaves the town in a really disunited state

Do you want to kill Datisi?

[DragonEater70]

But alsoooo if we do kill Datisi, who's to say that it won't cause Skitter to re-evaluate everything and find both of us out?

[DragonEater70]

Are you available in about 10 hours from now?

[DragonEater70]

To talk about our strategy in real time

[DragonEater70]

Well lemmie know if you are available

[DragonEater70]

But I was thinking about killing Datisi rolecopping Skitt and if they are VT (which I'm 95% sure they are) pocket them by saying I was sure they were cop the whole time (I actually have a good explanation of why I would think that), which would

probably

make me seem extremely uninformed. And then I just lament Datisi's death and sheep Skitter and it's GG.

Spoiler:

my prediction is that your response would be something like "we don't need to do that, we extremely well positioned, etc."
But the point is whether or not we kill Dats.

[Aristeia]

killing marci when she's not even playing is such a flex kill

The thing is I am like 90% sure that her not playing is exactly why she just lolvotes us in f5 and then Skitter probably prefers her to us

But actually nvm I think skitter said Marci is scummy and it's true that killing Datisi leaves the town in a really disunited state

Do you want to kill Datisi?

I am conflicted.

i think he would want to be killed so he doesnt have to play anymore but i will miss him and i dont want to let him go.

and i have always wanted to play elo with him tbh.

[Aristeia]

i think if we kill Datisi it frames skitter because he wanted to yeet Skitter yesterday and he also thought Skitter + Ausuka was a scum team

also skitter thinks marci is mafia and thinks its weird there's no pressure going there and instead it all went towards Atsi.


BUT

it would be really funny to see Datisi play elo I love him

[Aristeia]

maybe we kill Ausuka? that might be a play since Ausuka thought it was datisi + skitter + atsi

then leaves skitter - marci tension still alive in the game

[DragonEater70]

But how would killing Ausuka work? Like I'm sure skitter is snart ebough not to think it's just Datisi and Marci, right? And same for Datisi.

[DragonEater70]

Like basically this is how I see it:
If town reaches ELO and see there's only one sus player alive, they'll have to re-evaluate reads. If there are 2 sus player alive they don't have to re-evaluate. Ausuka, skitter and Marci are sus but Datisi isn't (and Datisi doesn't suspect Marci)

So killing Ausuka makes Skitter and Datisi re-evaluate which is bad for us. Same with killing Marci I think.

[DragonEater70]

I'll tell you what, I really want to No Kill and frame it as Skitter trying to kill Datisi but getting roleblocked by the banana that Infinity planted. But I can't think of any believable claim to justify why we would know that Datisi was the NK target.

Ao first, do you like the idea? And second, can you think of any claim?

Otherwise we might beed to just kill Datisi, as unfortunate as that would be.