Open 880 - Normal Idea Mafia - Postgame

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Infinity

Let's make this a quick first game back for you.

[Doctor Drew]

I'm not actually here though.

You in the scum PT?

[Doctor Drew]

can we not gang up on me when i'm going thru nicotine withdrawal ty

Congrats! ...Unless you're just out of cigs right now, in which case...uh, good luck on buying some!

Jesus Merlyn, they are trying to quit.....stop enabling

[Doctor Drew]

skygazer/heip/bianco ship it

sk is not mafia or something

I am disappointed you didn't omgus me.

[Doctor Drew]

I'm not actually here though.

You in the scum PT?

No I'm just laying low because I have a really cool role and it would be a shame if I looked really townie and got shot or something.

On an unrelated note I wonder why they didn't use the mason feasibility clause from GIM. I hope there isn't a sad lonely mason out there.

Well, you always look scummy to me if that makes you feel better.

And I was a lonely mason in a recent game, it sucked.

And my post, 40, wasn't really joking, maybe slightly.

But ya, classic Drew post.

[Doctor Drew]

Wow this game is easy

I keep wanting to scum read you for posts like these, but you continue to just be town* lol.

*Were scum once, but like you said, in fire and ice you were scum hunting(at least when I was alive).

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: bianco

I feel like bianco probably flips scum here and that her flipping scum just straight up clears the heip slot

Yes, we know, you said that yesterday already

We should say that tomorrow too

I always love a good Bianco wagon

VOTE: Bianco

[Doctor Drew]

invis trying to pivot guys

You think this has to do with my Bianco vote?

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: bianco

I feel like bianco probably flips scum here and that her flipping scum just straight up clears the heip slot

Yes, we know, you said that yesterday already

We should say that tomorrow too

I always love a good Bianco wagon

VOTE: Bianco

still think std has a sizeable chance of flipping scum

wack confidence (waconfidence) VOTE: cCS

what

nah i found that trying to push someone for having an early read was a bit weird, even if i was confident

So you don't think it is a bit odd that Invis switched votes off Bianco as soon as I did?

[Doctor Drew]

oh that part yeah

[Doctor Drew]

because youre placing your vote on a different person after drew had just voted for bianco, which seems like an attempt to bw me?

Which you didn't even realize until I mentioned it.

[Doctor Drew]

because youre placing your vote on a different person after drew had just voted for bianco, which seems like an attempt to bw me?

Which you didn't even realize until I mentioned it.

nah i thought you meant if i was accusing you of pivoting

invis trying to pivot guys

I mean......are you insulting my reading comprehension? Or....

[Doctor Drew]

invis trying to pivot guys

You think this has to do with my Bianco vote?

How is this not clear I am talking about Invis switching their vote of Bianco onto you literally just after I voted Bianco??

[Doctor Drew]

yeah i responded no to the question i misunderstood thinking that you were asking if I thought you were pivoting

What was I pivoting from exactly?

[Doctor Drew]

cuz i checked titus

Yeah that's our point. We were basically unlimmable from a dayplay perspective whereas Titus could have

maybe

been limmable with sheep and I not TRing her, yet you copped her over us because you didn't

really

care about deepwolves as cult

You have a tendency to apply your play/strategy to everyone else.

It sometimes leads you down the wrong path, this isn't me calling you scum at all, just something I noticed with you......respectfully

[Doctor Drew]

cuz i checked titus

Yeah that's our point. We were basically unlimmable from a dayplay perspective whereas Titus could have

maybe

been limmable with sheep and I not TRing her, yet you copped her over us because you didn't

really

care about deepwolves as cult

You have a tendency to apply your play/strategy to everyone else.

It sometimes leads you down the wrong path, this isn't me calling you scum at all, just something I noticed with you......respectfully

This doesn't feel like a Drew post and I don't know what to make of that

I have called you out on this before, in other games, unless I am going crazy.

Usually involving me lol.

[Doctor Drew]

I have called you out on this before, in other games, unless I am going crazy.

Usually involving me lol.

It's the "respectfully" that's pinging us I think

Oh I was just quoting Chet Hanks, it popped in my head as I was typing my post lol. Seemed to fit.

Pre Edit: I did mention it there, but you also acted that way in Fire and Ice, so just noticed that it is a thing you do.

[Doctor Drew]

Makes sense, Chet Hanks isn't Drew

You don't know that.

I literally said it isn't a scum tell of you or something, just that it could lead you down the wrong path.

Don't make me quote more Chet Hanks.

[Doctor Drew]

I have called you out on this before, in other games, unless I am going crazy.

Usually involving me lol.

It's the "respectfully" that's pinging us I think

lmao

is drew usually disrespectful

He's not disrespectful he's just not respectful unless there's like a blowup if that makes sense

You are getting way too hung up on me using a Chet Hanks reference(which in turn is a reference to my favorite Siruis show/podcast).

It was slightly so you didn't think I was making a case for you as scum, but way more for the lulz(and really just for my own person lulz).

[Doctor Drew]

drew do you think aureal is more towny than bianco rn

I would have to look more into Aureal, forgot she was here in this game.

[Doctor Drew]

drew do you think aureal is more towny than bianco rn

I would have to look more into Aureal, forgot she was here in this game.

So her iso is all shit posting, doesn't really feel like the town Aureal I am used to.

And usually she really cares about a game and gets invested, so I would put her on the same level as bianco tbh.

[Doctor Drew]

my iso is mostly shitposting and drew hasnt said anything about it which i thought was odd for a second but then i realized he probably has lower expectations for me

Pretty much, I would find it odd if you weren't shit posting.

Aureal isn't like you and me, she actually plays the game lol.

[Doctor Drew]

Now you're going a little tunnelvision on mechanics

I'm quite insulted that people think I have no damn clue how to play scum and would just obviously yuk around. Like, I'm sure I've mentioned that I'm undefeated as Mafia. Guess nobody thought to check that meta, eh?

Isn't you complaining that you are never scum like a meme for you? When was your last scum game?

I don't know why I do trust Aureal, yet I agree with every argument against her.

Like, I see myself in the way she is defending herself, yet I have also done that as 3p......plus if you are going to use your time as a defense, why not just claim it? I don't want to come off as role fishing, but come on.

This post brought to you by Fence Sitters R Us

Pre Edit: Python, she has a recent scum game?

[Doctor Drew]

Pre Edit: Python, she has a recent scum game?

Fire and Ice

Holy shit, I kinda stopped paying attention after I was killed in that game.

[Doctor Drew]

And I saw your post you made here about me in that game haha.

But ya, kinda makes hop off that fence a bit now.

[Doctor Drew]

I SHOT YOU IN THAT GAME DREW LOL

Come at me again bro

[Doctor Drew]

I'm trying to pocket the mod by shooting a toxic player so she'll hopefully have less work to do policing player behavior.

Bonus points if he's actually Fire!

My reads suck, I have no idea who they actually are. I was willing to go along with Python's pairing but they're gone now so it's out of their hands! They couldn't get a lim on the Bulge/Drew supposed team through so may as well leave them alone and see if people are more willing to go there now. I think Drew might actually be scum, Bulge I have no real scumread on, but I don't really want to shoot Drew here, he's cool and I think we've got a bit of a rapport going this game that I hopefully can use.

This is my first time as mafia after coming back from a 16-year hiatus, I have no real plan.

*Clutches pearls*

You tried to use me Aureal?



Thanks for calling me cool though, kinda needed that today

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: UNO

[Doctor Drew]

In the Bianco run normal game they used a traitor and there was a little bit of a blow back from some players saying that traitors shouldn't be considered normal.

Bianco, do you remember if Alianna was one of those players?

Look at me trying to outguess AC DC lol

[Doctor Drew]

In the Bianco run normal game they used a traitor and there was a little bit of a blow back from some players saying that traitors shouldn't be considered normal.

Bianco, do you remember if Alianna was one of those players?

Look at me trying to outguess AC DC lol

Forget to say what my point was.

Were the roles completely randomly picked? Or was it 'let me pick roles until I have a set I like as a mod'?

[Doctor Drew]

In the Bianco run normal game they used a traitor and there was a little bit of a blow back from some players saying that traitors shouldn't be considered normal.

Bianco, do you remember if Alianna was one of those players?

Look at me trying to outguess AC DC lol

In the Bianco run normal game they used a traitor and there was a little bit of a blow back from some players saying that traitors shouldn't be considered normal.

Bianco, do you remember if Alianna was one of those players?

Look at me trying to outguess AC DC lol

Forget to say what my point was.

Were the roles completely randomly picked? Or was it 'let me pick roles until I have a set I like as a mod'?

Welp I just gave myself some busy work, just to come right back to 'ya there can be traitors here'.

Carry on, nothing to see here.

[Doctor Drew]

Obviously HEM is a sk, their name is literally says they eat human and sk doesnt use guns to kill

I thought they were eating monkeys?

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: HEM i guess but it doesn't excite me

Why are we voting them again?

[Doctor Drew]

not quite sure what wagon to commit to anymore it seems we're swinging votes like monkeys

Oh that certainly is a thing right here lol.

VOTE: Human

[Doctor Drew]

Ohhhh

That's why people started talking about traitors

This is why I'm not thinking about this game x_x

Get you head in the game Aureal!

Leave the shit posting to me.

[Doctor Drew]

not quite sure what wagon to commit to anymore it seems we're swinging votes like monkeys

Oh that certainly is a thing right here lol.

VOTE: Human

Sneakily putting HEM at E-1 without saying anything smh

E-2 you mean??

[Doctor Drew]

just iso'd drew and he could definitely be scum, his last two pushes were basically sheeping and he doesn't have the same fiery energy i'm used to

I often sheep D1, and my Mafia desire is starting to run on empty, ngl

[Doctor Drew]

Python is null. Not sure what their scumgame is like

I always kinda think they are scummy, but they keep being town so I have accepted that it is at the very least a play style thing......but yet again I still get scum pings from them here.

But much like they said about me, I feel like their intentions will be more apparent as the game moves on.

[Doctor Drew]

who's scum if not snivy

If not snivy? Not sure really, I have not had the time this week to give this much thought.

HEM and Drew both looked bad to me on my skimming. Heip was not as bad as I thought when I voted him but I has been less present now and the initial stuff was still iffy.
Others are either not playing or playing in a way that doesn't immediately stand out as AI to someone paying as much attention as I have.

I think that bianco and Flavor are town though.

snivy I read as scum not just on the post I pointed out but also some of the posts they made a page or two ago. I'm not sure if there's actually an argument to push here, it's just how I interpreted the tone (which has been good previously).

Talk me through your FL town read, I think they do some things that are pretty obv town, but I have not seen those things yet from him.

[Doctor Drew]

Huh, interesting.

Keeping that thought close to my chest.

[Doctor Drew]

Wait did I miss all the fun?

Oh Aureal is at E-1, maybe I can get some revenge here .

Muahhhhhahaha

[Doctor Drew]

Ah damn, my fun is always spoiled.

[Doctor Drew]

I will say Aureals claim is definitely from the Big Book of Drew Fake Claims(also I assume this role is actually in the normal idea thread?).

But, they can be proven I guess.

VOTE: heip

Back at e-1 you go.

[Doctor Drew]

I will say Aureals claim is definitely from the Big Book of Drew Fake Claims(also I assume this role is actually in the normal idea thread?).

But, they can be proven I guess.

VOTE: heip

Back at e-1 you go.

Town N1 Bulletproof N2+ Activated Innocent Child

Ya I checked after I posted.

[Doctor Drew]

yeah, i think i stopped a kill

Can we get your red check yet

i was waiting for you to come back.

I blocked Snivy.

bro

UNVOTE:

do you see a world where im not sk then

I think FL was saying just that.

[Doctor Drew]

Uno, Bianco, STD are kinda lock for me right now. I have the key still, though.

Uno wigglin

If Snivy and Python are both town, Bianco probs always scum.

I really think it’s Scum Bianco bussing Scum Uno.

Would Bianco buss so hard as to make sure UNO makes the NK?

[Doctor Drew]

I don’t believe Uno made the night kill tbh

Then who did Sky target for them to die? Or do you believe that Sky was the NK??

[Doctor Drew]

Should we keep the day going? Or just end it now-ish?

Pre Edit: Well that makes it E-1, so I guess I got an answer lol

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: DIEZ

Dietz nutz?

VOTE: uno

If that wasn't your intention Blue lol

[Doctor Drew]

Lol, dammit Blue....thought I could beat you before my pre Edit was done

[Doctor Drew]

Mod always late lol

Yay vig, or thanks SK?

Also lol at Aureal.

[Doctor Drew]

Mod always late lol

Yay vig, or thanks SK?

Also lol at Aureal.

Oops, she was only slightly late with the day start PM this time.

[Doctor Drew]

i have a shitty role

Can't be that bad.

[Doctor Drew]

So Bianco, STD, and Doctor Drew should claim next.

I for one am most curious on std's 'shitty' role.

[Doctor Drew]

I think I want to trust the Leaf.

But you said you wouldn't fight lol. You're fighting fr

Leaf can't run away from a beef.

[Doctor Drew]

So Bianco, STD, and Doctor Drew should claim next.

I for one am most curious on std's 'shitty' role.

claim while you're here.

Fine, std will probably take forever getting back here anyways lol.

Even night gunsmith.

Std has a gun.

[Doctor Drew]

bro drew you couldve waited for stds claim

I was trying to.....gunsmith 'guilty' isn't a slam dunk though anyways.

But there isn't much I can get a 'guilty' on that I would consider a shitty role.

[Doctor Drew]

SK doesnt have gun right since they canonically use a knife

I believe so? The list of roles mod gave me that would have a gun don't include SK anyways.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: std

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: std

UNVOTE:

Wait, finish claims first....

[Doctor Drew]

How about we wait until Day 4 to sort Leaf and Python?

I mean this back and forth is fun to watch and all but.....

(I am actually jealous I am not a part, love arguing with both parties)

[Doctor Drew]

Subject: Normal Idea Mafia (150/150 roles submitted, discussion thread up)

Town Backup Cop

---

Earl is not normal. It will be changed to something else in errata. Backup Friendly Neighbor?

[Doctor Drew]

You cool with that, Drew?

Ya.

Also it took like two seconds to find that in the Normal Idea thread.......

Did you even look?

[Doctor Drew]

You cool with that, Drew?

Ya.

Also it took like two seconds to find that in the Normal Idea thread.......

Did you even look?

I went through all 7 pages multiple times

I’m at work right now, though, so I’m fast mobile searching

Was std's role claim the only one you searched for?

[Doctor Drew]

I'd like thoughts from drew snivy invis if y'all can follow this

pedit: oh ok cool and forgot

I have been following along, just my brain is mush today.

I am gonna go have a few beers, and then when I am back home on the laptop I will be more motivated.

[Doctor Drew]

Why did this become so difficult?

Not a loaded question, I should have just waited for std to claim before I did lol.

Problem is we have to stubborn players butting heads(love ya both, but a spade is a spade).

My gut still says go with std here.....also are we still missing a claim or two?

[Doctor Drew]

Ok let's fucking go

VOTE: std

[Doctor Drew]

When I roll scum against Python, and win, this’ll be posted

viewtopic.php?p=12493041#p12493041

I just enjoyed Koba being humbled there.

[Doctor Drew]

Lol, SK shot scum?

[Doctor Drew]

crazy none of the mafia had powers

Well they did gain town PRs, at least Bianco should have......right?

[Doctor Drew]

I blocked Bianco, so that explains missing second kill.

I think Python’s prob just SK Strongman/Ascetic tbh.

Their play yesterday was just not too great.

And yeah, I’m glad my gut town read on STD turned out alright.

Would Python shoot Bianco though?

Outside of thinking you were scum, there was lots of talk about Bianco as well.......maybe I am wrong, but wouldn't SK want to keep scum alive, especially in this gamestate?

Pre Edit: Maybe, but then that makes is way more difficult for skPython.

[Doctor Drew]

crazy none of the mafia had powers

Well they did gain town PRs, at least Bianco should have......right?

thats not how UB works

They get the first PR that dies right?

And Snivy, I am lazy and don't want to dig through your iso lol......but what was your role? Why does it not matter checking me?

[Doctor Drew]

crazy none of the mafia had powers

Well they did gain town PRs, at least Bianco should have......right?

thats not how UB works

They get the first PR that dies right?

And Snivy, I am lazy and don't want to dig through your iso lol......but what was your role? Why does it not matter checking me?

Ok loyal checker......I got less lazy lol.

If you got a clear on FL, then you should get a clear on me as well correct(assuming I am not SK of course).

Something isn't adding up here.

[Doctor Drew]

what isnt adding up

Why can't you get a clear on me?

[Doctor Drew]

actually ya drew is useless

Jeez that stings lol.

[Doctor Drew]

i think drew is pretty likely scum given how python is playing this, also there are a ton of rolecop sks which i didn't realize

Explain how python playing this has anything to do with me?

Also I am very likely gunsmith, so likely that it is in my role PM.

[Doctor Drew]

i think drew is pretty likely scum given how python is playing this, also there are a ton of rolecop sks which i didn't realize

Explain how python playing this has anything to do with me?

i think snivy is town

i am town

flavor and dragon are conf town

Oh, you meant poe.

Why do you think Snivy is town?

[Doctor Drew]

how silly is it that if we just went Python like I wanted to yesterday, all this wouldve been avoided.

Still not sold on Python.

Now Snivy is another case.....

[Doctor Drew]

and like, the path is Snivy->Python->Drew with infinity getting vigged.

If Snivy flips town, infinity flips town, then it's you or Python.

Won't make it past infinity worst case imo.

But I am all for it.

[Doctor Drew]

Alrighty.

VOTE: Snivy

[Doctor Drew]

Was that a hammer?

[Doctor Drew]

Show's you how much I have paid attention lol.

[Doctor Drew]

One thing that could mess things up is a BlueSnake flake and no action on DrewSK tbh

Well lucky for us there is no DrewSK.

[Doctor Drew]

One thing that could mess things up is a BlueSnake flake and no action on DrewSK tbh

Well lucky for us there is no DrewSK.

You get my reasoning for why I don’t think DrewSK rolecops STD here? Like imo, it just doesn’t feel that impactful.

Nothing against STD, but really just not worth it.

+ your guilty wasnt even strong enough to conftown you, so it just objectively didn’t make sense for you to be scum here.

I’ve always thought it was one of the other three, and they get taken care of by end of Day 5.

If I was gonna fakeclaim and wanted to get someone limmed, it probably would have been tailored to making python look bad. And even if it was on std, like you said I would have found something to conf town myself in the process.

I don't fuck around on my fake claims lol.

Pre Edit: Infinity is my gut 'this is the person that's gonna fuck us aren't they' read tbh

[Doctor Drew]

Meh, your first instinct is correct FL, I am gunsmith.

But if we still win no matter what do what we gotta do.

[Doctor Drew]

Meh, your first instinct is correct FL, I am gunsmith.

But if we still win no matter what do what we gotta do.

who did you gunsmith last night?

Dragon, but was blocked.

Also was friendly neighbored by yimmy lol.

[Doctor Drew]

A wise man once told me, 'Don't overthink it. Enchant is scum'.

They were right.

VOTE: Python

*Insert yellow m&m here*

[Doctor Drew]

ugh

i still think the way drew played the last day phase was scummy, he wasn't doing much until I was like "you're scum by play", maybe the mech stuff just isn't his thing?

Exactly that, mech talk bores me, especially when the game gets taken over by it, especially especially when the game is basically almost mechanically solved.

So ya, this game has gotten boring to me and just would like it to end now by limming python.

[Doctor Drew]

especially especially when the game is basically almost mechanically solved.

And yet here we are

Slight addendum, when one of the people pushing the mech is SK, I guess it can be a wild card.

[Doctor Drew]

Why does a SK Drew say they gunsmithed Dragon last night?

I just don’t feel a SK is that unaware of the gamestate.

You asked before why I did, frankly thought I was getting blocked anyways. I almost didn't submit anything but then the night was extended because of the replacement and I figured might as well send something in in case I am not blocked.

And I chose Dragons just in case if the crazy scenario they fake claimed as the SK, but also because I gunsmithed the other dragon as well lol.

And you have seen me up close and personal when I fake claim, Flavor. I would tailor my claim to make all my actions make sense, gunsmith would be far down the list of making sense.

[Doctor Drew]

Yeah, this is DrewTown.

Drew is in his uninformed game not his town game

How can you make this assessment when you have only seen my town game?

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: python

E-1

[Doctor Drew]

Day 3 + No Kill Night 4, plus vibe check vs Drew is why I’m voting you over Drew.

If we were SK that could get roleblocked then the game would be over by concession already, the Night 3 no kill was most likely either Drew holstering or Drew shooting Snivy and running into Infinity's protect

All this thought you have put into what the SK would do. This is like when OJ wrote that book detailing how he would have done the murders, because he was clearly innocent right?

This time the glove does fit, Python, so we can not acquit.

[Doctor Drew]

"Here's what Drew did"

"Damn you really put a lot of thought into what the SK did... almost like you're the SK"

I mean, we both know this is what is happening here lol.

[Doctor Drew]

this could be a lesson in how to beat FL town in ELO.

Just have good vibes, and im probably gonna vibe check not fade you.

Nah.

Just as simple as Enchant is scum lol.

[Doctor Drew]

damn why didnt yall see that double kill thing coming, coulda saved us a lot of trouble

I was unfortunately checked out of that game, life happens sometimes.......But i still regret not making the push on Enchant, but it seemed so obvious!

[Doctor Drew]

Lol, what a time for the game to die.

[Doctor Drew]

i know, im just not sure how much effort i wanna put in

Effort is overrated

[Doctor Drew]

i have a shitty role

i have a shitty role

Can't be that bad.

This is a point for Drew town, I think. DrewSK would have to have known STD was a Backup Cop, so them saying can’t be that bad is a little odd.

Gunsmith wise, this makes sense that Drew thinks that having a gun couldn’t be that bad, which is kind of the way Drew played.

I wasn't even thinking of modifications and variants of roles, just was thinking that the only role I would consider shitty that I could gunsmith was neopolitan.

So odds were, in my head, std didn't have a shitty role......which I was wrong about lol.

[Doctor Drew]

On a mech level, I’m like 40-60 it’s Python-Drew.

On a gut-vibe level, I’m 80-20 Python-Drew.

I’m going with gut and vibes.

Like the problem with this attitude is that if you look at the actual mech in play it's closer to 20-80 Python-Drew and you yourself already recognized you're being pocketed earlier

Mech person uses mech to make to fake claim and to make the other guy look bad since they know the other guy(me) doesn't do mech and actually hates mech talk.

Like this game is designed for you to make a fake claim, you love the mech stuff and are really good at using it to your advantage(and this includes as town).

[Doctor Drew]

Get better!

And remember, an apple a day keeps the doctor away......away from the lying snake who wants to cast us out of Eden......yes I went biblical

The devil disguised themselves as a snake

Think about it

[Doctor Drew]

V/LA for 2 days

sorry y'all we're sick. may get to this at some point depending on how we're feeling

Noted.

- Alianna

Maybe just sit vote on Doctor Drew while you VLA, the worst that could happen is Drew self hammers

Would literally be the worst, but won't happen.

[Doctor Drew]

So, anyone seen any good movies lately?

[Doctor Drew]

across the spiderverse was pretty good but i hate that it ended on a cliffhanger

I will admit, never a big marvel movie fan.....but I need to be more open minded since the ones I have watched I enjoyed.

[Doctor Drew]

Oh I love The Prestige.

I have been meaning to check out Oppenheimer.

[Doctor Drew]

i can kinda see drew sitting back as sk and letting town destroy itself with bad mech plans

The truth is much simpler as I already discussed in regards to mech talk.

[Doctor Drew]

And like Flavor hinted at, python is built to be scum/SK this game. They know how to use mech to their advantage.

If you feel mech makes them town, then so be it I won't hold it against you.

But my vibe has always been pure, like dove soap.....or ivory, always forget which one lol.

And maybe python is correct and gunsmith is a good fake claim for SK to make, again mech talk, but I 100% would have tried to find a more fun role to fake as SK..... I definitely am much more of a YOLO player when I fake claim, yes i will make it make sense, but will definitely have fun with it.

[Doctor Drew]

And like Flavor hinted at, python is built to be scum/SK this game. They know how to use mech to their advantage.

If you feel mech makes them town, then so be it I won't hold it against you.

But my vibe has always been pure, like dove soap.....or ivory, always forget which one lol.

And maybe python is correct and gunsmith is a good fake claim for SK to make, again mech talk, but I 100% would have tried to find a more fun role to fake as SK..... I definitely am much more of a YOLO player when I fake claim, yes i will make it make sense, but will definitely have fun with it.

but the hem soft just seems like bad play to me. like i don't get why they do that unless they just didn't check the role list.

Can't answer that for you tbh.

I will say, always fun being in the position where you know you are righteous lol, I really want Infinity to get this as well but also want them to get there by their own volition.

[Doctor Drew]

Like from a mech POV I don't think the game is that complicated, Drew shot HEM n2 cause of the green check, Snivy n3 cause he was a Loyal Checker, and DragonEater n4 to prevent the game from being mechanically locked

He claimed gunsmith instead of anything crazier because there wasn't anything crazy that he could logically claim

Who plays more logically between us?

[Doctor Drew]

Like from a mech POV I don't think the game is that complicated, Drew shot HEM n2 cause of the green check, Snivy n3 cause he was a Loyal Checker, and DragonEater n4 to prevent the game from being mechanically locked

He claimed gunsmith instead of anything crazier because there wasn't anything crazy that he could logically claim

Who plays more logically between us?

This is pretty funny given that an sk!python game would imply we played the opposite of logical

You aren't an idiot, you can use the mech talk to create wifom.

Also just so I am not totally paranoid here, Infinity is cleared right?

Like Python does make some sense so I just want confirmation of this.

[Doctor Drew]

Wait no Yimmy got shot not DE

And yeah Infinity is mech clear since two kills happened meaning that DE's Loyal Bodyguard went off, only way they could be SK is if DE shot someone else

So there is a way then?

[Doctor Drew]

Wait no Yimmy got shot not DE

And yeah Infinity is mech clear since two kills happened meaning that DE's Loyal Bodyguard went off, only way they could be SK is if DE shot someone else

So there is a way then?

Are you unironically suggesting that DE yolo'd a shot on one of us after having already asked FL who to shoot last night?

I am saying you make a lot of sense and even though I am not SK I weirdly feel you aren't either, so.......

[Doctor Drew]

Just crossing my i's and dotting my t's.

[Doctor Drew]

yeahh that's the thing i just don't get why my gut disagrees >_>

I think on a mech level, the game looks like Drew.

On a gut level, it’s Python.

Drew had a mech clear when they were scum in my game, and the town lost because mech confirmed Drew as town when they were scum.

I think that may be happening here.

I’d also feel less bad losing to Drew winning than Python sleazing their way to a victory.

Remember it was that one crazy night that led to my 'mech clear' (and the hammer test)......and ironically me not quick hammering because I wasn't completely sure if I would end the game is what made me a bit paranoid about Infinity not snap voting here.


And, as everyone agrees, Python does mech really well and even I can say they make sense here.

[Doctor Drew]

This looked like a debate on if infinity was SK to me

Wait no Yimmy got shot not DE

And yeah Infinity is mech clear since two kills happened meaning that DE's Loyal Bodyguard went off, only way they could be SK is if DE shot someone else

So there is a way then?

Are you unironically suggesting that DE yolo'd a shot on one of us after having already asked FL who to shoot last night?

I am saying you make a lot of sense and even though I am not SK I weirdly feel you aren't either, so.......

yeahh that's the thing i just don't get why my gut disagrees >_>

I think on a mech level, the game looks like Drew.

On a gut level, it’s Python.

Drew had a mech clear when they were scum in my game, and the town lost because mech confirmed Drew as town when they were scum.

I think that may be happening here.

I’d also feel less bad losing to Drew winning than Python sleazing their way to a victory.

Remember it was that one crazy night that led to my 'mech clear' (and the hammer test)......and ironically me not quick hammering because I wasn't completely sure if I would end the game is what made me a bit paranoid about Infinity not snap voting here.


And, as everyone agrees, Python does mech really well and even I can say they make sense here.

I was making sure it was sure Infinity was cleared.

[Doctor Drew]

Again, sometimes Enchant is just scum.

[Doctor Drew]

5.03

Votecount 5.03

usesPython (E-1): Flavor Leaf, Doctor Drew
Doctor Drew (E-2): usesPython

Not Voting (1): Infinity 324

With 4 players alive, it takes 3 votes to secure an execution or 2 votes to secure a no-execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2023-09-08 01:03:38).

Mod-prodge. This VC is still accurate.

What's your favorite movie Alianna?

[Doctor Drew]

Like in order for us to be sk we'd have had to deliberately make an impossible claim and also risk green checking mafia which realistically would get us limmed as mafia if it wasn't for the gunsmith guilty delaying our lim for a day into DE shooting the other mafia, our play this game doesn't make sense as sk because it relies on factors that are straight up impossible to predict

See here's the thing, if this wasn't you and me 1v1 I would totally be on board with townPython.....but i also know I am not SK.

So you are either SK, or Infinity is super deep wolfing.

But, you have used mech to discredit me being gunsmith, and flat out said my play has not been townie....even though that contradicted a previous though by you.

So ya.

[Doctor Drew]

i hope that's right >_>

it was not

Roleblock Infinity on the off chance DE did a thing

I respect not giving up until the mod confirms it.

[Doctor Drew]

i hope that's right >_>

it was not

Roleblock Infinity on the off chance DE did a thing

I respect not giving up until the mod confirms it.

I mean 19 times out of 20 you're sk here but in that case we can't do anything about it at this point, might as well hedge against sk!infinity

So you are saying you aren't SK??

[Doctor Drew]

i hope that's right >_>

it was not

Roleblock Infinity on the off chance DE did a thing

I respect not giving up until the mod confirms it.

I mean 19 times out of 20 you're sk here but in that case we can't do anything about it at this point, might as well hedge against sk!infinity

So you are saying you aren't SK??

We're town

I hope this is lol trolling

[Doctor Drew]

Drew considering the sk!infinity world cause we're too town is funny as hell

Python, as I said you almost had me convinced we were being bamboozled by Infinity lol!

Very well played, but Flavor was so locked in to the gut read on me I don't know what you could have done to actually win.

[Doctor Drew]

Damn, my reads were actually good this game.

I thought this was about to turn into a rough game for me.

I felt bad after the Snivy wagon, but it worked out the way I thought it would, but i did get nervous with Drew a few times because the mech was not in his favor.

Always remember, sometimes Enchant is just scum.

[Doctor Drew]

somebody nom me for best replacement

You are the greatest player to never actually play this game.

[Doctor Drew]

GG town, well done FL on spotting the SK, I should have just voted Python with you Day 4.

And well done Infinity on sheeping FL

And also well done Drew on being townier than Python

I loved how this game turned out.

I really enjoy playing with Python, and part of that is that is because we approach things from a very different angle.

So it was very apropos that it came down to gut/vibe(drew) vs mech(python).