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[camelCasedSnivy]

Yeah, dislike the camel slot having read back.
Desperate to vote anyone

have you even seen how slow this game has been going?

[camelCasedSnivy]

in my eyes starting a wagon on myself is kinda pointless for progressing the game so thats why i want to vote anywhere else

[KittyTacky]

I think camel is town.

Abnegation is town, let's be honest it's fine if RVS votes stay until page 7.

Now that the leek thing is pointed out my tentative TR on him has crumbled. If I vote soon then I'm voting there.

Klaz also town imo.

i don't think you ever mentioned townreading leek?

I didn't but I didn't post much.

I was very very busy sorry guys! Will post more after I finish chores rn.

[KittyTacky]

I think camel is town.

Abnegation is town, let's be honest it's fine if RVS votes stay until page 7.

Now that the leek thing is pointed out my tentative TR on him has crumbled. If I vote soon then I'm voting there.

Klaz also town imo.

Why is klaz and camel town?

Mostly a gut read. They seem solvy.

[geraintm]

Yeah, dislike the camel slot having read back.
Desperate to vote anyone

have you even seen how slow this game has been going?

I've barely been paying attention

You come across as wanting to get anything going on anyone, with no reasoning required.
I dislike that

[geraintm]

Strangely I think flavor is town now.

Liking the replacement, I see the Dave stuff too, is why I’m on fence there.

Yeah, dislike the camel slot having read back.
Desperate to vote anyone

Can you elaborate on “desperate to vote anyone”? Talking about camel or yourself?

Reading Camel's iso, it basically felt they really wanted to vote someone, anyone, and didn't care why.
I was not talking about myself.

[SzmarzLeek]

Yeah, dislike the camel slot having read back.
Desperate to vote anyone

how come is an active plastyle (compared to reactive one) scummy

I dislike that you dislike that

have you even seen how slow this game has been going?

I've barely been paying attention

You come across as wanting to get anything going on anyone, with no reasoning required.
I dislike that

[SzmarzLeek]

messed up quoting

Yeah, dislike the camel slot having read back.
Desperate to vote anyone

have you even seen how slow this game has been going?

I've barely been paying attention

You come across as wanting to get anything going on anyone, with no reasoning required.
I dislike that

how come is an active plastyle (compared to reactive one) scummy

I dislike that you dislike that

have you even seen how slow this game has been going?

[KittyTacky]

Hiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!

Welcome!

[KittyTacky]

Ab, Kitty isn't saying they posted a TR on Leek, he's saying that he had a tentative TR on him in his mind.

Yeah I

had

a TR.

[camelCasedSnivy]

Reading Camel's iso, it basically felt they really wanted to vote someone, anyone, and didn't care why.

i specified a pool of people in my posts

dave i have a scumlean read on and anyone whos inactive to pressure them

if i was desperate to vote anyone, why not leaf?

[Klazam]

Thanks Kitty and gera.

Okay here's the thoughts I had -

It is super interesting that some has said that camel seemed "towny relaxed" (this specifically)

eg votes on camel are weird for me, because he seems to have a towny chill and not giving a damn vibe judging their entrance.

I've been feeling the opposite. Here's the progression of some stuff that happened as i see it:

camel starts off with a townread regarding me -

most likely klazam is either town or paired with abnegation

I vote cCS here, agreeing with dave on the signal to noise ratio & feeling that cCS has been pushing the "easy stuff"

Happy to see the pace isn't too bad.
Not as happy to see a low s/n ratio.
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy

Know what, I can get behind this. Been feeling the same, and seeing that cCS been going for low hanging fruit.

VOTE: camelCasedSnivy

Still want hu tao to actually take a stance. If you had to vote someone, who would you vote and why?

Immediately afterwards, cCS seems to get upset, retracts his townread on me, and then after dave interacts with camel a bit more, he votes me, accusing me of the same thing, basically.

didnt know wanting to start a wagon early was considered targetting low hanging fruit

i take back my townread on klazam i guess it was too early for that

mainly because i dont really like their talk about votes

What would you suggest using to generate reads, if not votes and talk about votes or the lack thereof?

i get what he is saying but he seems to be making something big out of it as if he is even voting hu tao in the first place lmao

also its an easy thing to push someone for and i dont like that

and you guys say that I target low hanging fruit smh

VOTE: Klazam

And this is why my vote is still ccs for today - This level of reactiveness and defensively attacking me for my vote on him reads to me the exact opposite of "town relaxed"

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UNRELATED - Formatting question - how the fuck do i make collaspible spoilers. Was trying to do that for readablity, but this was the result. Im keeping it because i cant be fucked hunting for tags to fix it.

[camelCasedSnivy]

do [spoiler=] instead of [spoiler] at the start

[camelCasedSnivy]

yeah your scumcase on me sounded quite bullshit tbh

[camelCasedSnivy]

well it wasnt just that actually it was hu taos case too but i wasnt a fan of my case either

[Ame]

am I not too high there

I wouldn't put myself up there if I looked at my gameplay from the outside I guess

but the fact of giving such a list unprovoked at this stage is a bit towny I believe, scum wouldn't want to antagonize so many people this early, better to focus on 1, 2 people

I haven't gone back to fact check, but from Ab's post you seem to only have played two games prior to this, both as town? If that's the case, I don't think a newbiemaf would play with the ease of tone you have. I liked that manner of which you replied to Ab's case, acknowledging it to be true rather than react defensively. It indicates to me an objective point of view rather than a survival one.

[Ame]

Hu Tao
camelCasedSnivy
SzmarzLeek
Flavor Leaf
Abnegation

BlackStar
Doctor Drew
KittyTacky
Klazam

geraintm
Arko
davesaz

Am I 3rd most scummy to you?

No, you're the 3rd least towny. Everyone above you I have gotten some towny impression from or something or another. I haven't gotten one from you yet, but I don't think it necessarily makes you maf (same for Arko).

[Ame]

I like Klazam's case. It seems like the sort of thought process that stems from townynoia - like, the idea that the behavior of another player is a reaction to your own towny actions. Blackstar displays this in his case too. I'm not quite sold against cCS but the post-hoc addition of #264 above does ring me. Like the need to display a consistency in his voting progression. This sort of self-consciousness I think more comes from maf. Actually, I've convinced myself while writing this. The Klaz/Hu vote thing is such a stale reason to still be voting Klaz, especially after Klaz updated on his motivations behind the push and what he got from it. I actually think cCS is probably a hit.

VOTE: cCS

[Ame]

I also agree with Blackstar that Drew's "why do you assume I scum read you" is weird. Bruh, you just implied in several post that she's maf lol.

[Hu Tao]

Alright I looked at some other games’ rules posts, I’m new to that particular thing, wasn’t a thing when I played here awhile ago.

Because it appears to be a thing here on site (I did see a couple that didn’t mention the multitasking whatsoever). That particular piece of setup spec makes more sense to me so gonna

UNVOTE: Abnegation

I think it would be weird for scum to make the particular comment that he did with the above in mind, so Ima sliiight lean town on abneg.


I doubt that we could rely on the absence of multitasking in the rules to tell us anything though.

Back on you my vote goes

VOTE: davesaz

This post is super scummy?

VOTE: Klazam

I like you already

[Ame]

Alright I looked at some other games’ rules posts, I’m new to that particular thing, wasn’t a thing when I played here awhile ago.

Because it appears to be a thing here on site (I did see a couple that didn’t mention the multitasking whatsoever). That particular piece of setup spec makes more sense to me so gonna

UNVOTE: Abnegation

I think it would be weird for scum to make the particular comment that he did with the above in mind, so Ima sliiight lean town on abneg.


I doubt that we could rely on the absence of multitasking in the rules to tell us anything though.

Back on you my vote goes

VOTE: davesaz

This post is super scummy?

VOTE: Klazam

I like you already

Well I've completely reversed my view since, I hope you still like me!

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao
camelCasedSnivy
SzmarzLeek
Flavor Leaf
Abnegation

BlackStar
Doctor Drew
KittyTacky
Klazam

geraintm
Arko
davesaz

I can vibe with this. I think camel's last few posts were sus though.

[Hu Tao]

I like Klazam's case. It seems like the sort of thought process that stems from townynoia - like, the idea that the behavior of another player is a reaction to your own towny actions. Blackstar displays this in his case too. I'm not quite sold against cCS but the post-hoc addition of #264 above does ring me. Like the need to display a consistency in his voting progression. This sort of self-consciousness I think more comes from maf. Actually, I've convinced myself while writing this. The Klaz/Hu vote thing is such a stale reason to still be voting Klaz, especially after Klaz updated on his motivations behind the push and what he got from it. I actually think cCS is probably a hit.

VOTE: cCS

I see you've seen the light but I still think klazam is scummy. Maybe that will change

[geraintm]

messed up quoting

Yeah, dislike the camel slot having read back.
Desperate to vote anyone

have you even seen how slow this game has been going?

I've barely been paying attention

You come across as wanting to get anything going on anyone, with no reasoning required.
I dislike that

how come is an active plastyle (compared to reactive one) scummy

I dislike that you dislike that

have you even seen how slow this game has been going?

It isn't active. It is reactive, it wants to follow others leads on wagons.

[camelCasedSnivy]

well i dont know what everyone wants and from the VC from earlier it seems our wants are rather dispersed