Veiled Committee Mafia: List Mods Edition [game over]

[DragonEater70]

Will read rest of posts laterrrr

[DragonEater70]

well i only needed a yes to one of those per what bingle said so
they should not have been able to become an amway consultant per their claim which included that they could not be recruited

Wait what

The mod literally nade it clear that becoming amway doesn't modify your role but recruits you

Traitor can't be recruited but Bingle's claim is not having role modifications. Isn't that straight up confirmation from mod that Bingle is lying? Or did I mess up my logic here? Am I wrong about Bingle's claim?

[DragonEater70]

Yeah okay Bingle claimed unrecruitable

[DragonEater70]

Still could be claimed by a traitor, and claiming BP is also perfect for a traitor so scum doesn't waste night kill or accidentally NK the traitor.

[DragonEater70]

I'll just confirm the mechanics of it:

@Mod, assuming Koba really had the role they flipped with, they wouldn't be recruitable into amway, right?

[DragonEater70]

I've not had time to re-evaluate my Cook scumread, but the same gut feeling that told me not to vote Aureal for the majority of Day 1 is telling me that limming Cook is also a horrible idea.

I think the play here is to lim Bingle, will elaborate more later.

[Bingle]

I'll just confirm the mechanics of it:

@Mod, assuming Koba really had the role they flipped with, they wouldn't be recruitable into amway, right?

Reading comprehension is tech. The traitor is specifically shown to not be recruitable to the main faction. Unless you’re arguing that amway is mechanically the “main faction” the traitor would have no interaction whatsoever with the amway role. Otoh, I quite literally provably did not receive the amway abilities.

Look, I understand that being able to read is more and more optional nowadays, but can we all at least pretend?

[Bingle]

my point is that i already think your mafia outside of the traitor thing

Still want to hear why, btw.

[AniX]

You have until the end of the day. As I've been saying the entire time, this is a mech solve game and you better have an absolutely BEAUTIFUL reason to fucking with the town's mech solve (if you are town. Take your time with a second fakeclaim if you're scum)

I will say it right now:
I don't. Any and all claim-related shenanigans I do are due to my personal idiosyncrasies.

Since this answer will 100% not satisfy you, I'm just going to link 2 posts from a town game where I did claim related shenanigans due to my idiosyncrasies (this is obviously an alt).

Ok, well, you should still claim. It doesn't do you any favors that EVERYONE ELSE full claimed, you delayed, delayed, delayed, then claimed bullshit, then went "Oh ho, I actually was lying", then STILL REFUSE TO CLAIM, even though everyone else has. I'm not especially convinced by "No, no, you don't understand, sometimes I also lie to the town as town".

[AniX]

Ultimately your choice though. Unless this day quickends in the next 37 hours (the day needs to last 72 hours for my vigshot to activate), I have satisfied every other necessary component to vigshot you. Either you start being honest with the town about your role or I'll just have the mod be honest about what your role was.

[KatyKimFanClub]

I've not had time to re-evaluate my Cook scumread, but the same gut feeling that told me not to vote Aureal for the majority of Day 1 is telling me that limming Cook is also a horrible idea.

I think the play here is to lim Bingle, will elaborate more later.

Are you hinting here that you were still able to investigate someone (and that person is Bingle)?

[Cook]

Ultimately your choice though. Unless this day quickends in the next 37 hours (the day needs to last 72 hours for my vigshot to activate), I have satisfied every other necessary component to vigshot you. Either you start being honest with the town about your role or I'll just have the mod be honest about what your role was.

we have death millers already, what makes you think de70's role will be real too?

[KatyKimFanClub]

Can people who are voting for Bingle independently of the mechanics argument about alignment/role changing talk me through it (or even just link posts for me to read)?
Sorry for outsourcing my work to others

[camelCasedSnivy]

so then is it safe to say bingle/aureal/the traitor are a group

I very much doubt I'm in a group with the traitor, our roles are TOO similar.

isn't that the point?

[camelCasedSnivy]

my point is that i already think your mafia outside of the traitor thing

Still want to hear why, btw.

it was mainly because i thought your day 1 gameplay was inherently scummy and haven't been pinged in any way since

[camelCasedSnivy]

Will read rest of posts laterrrr

same in class again

[Bingle]

isn't that the point?

Nah, the role buckets are roles we think were likely submitted by the same person. It's reasonable to think a cop, miller and godfather might all be submitted by a single name. It's less reasonable that a Night 2 cop and a Novice cop would be submitted by the same name.

[Bingle]

it was mainly because i thought your day 1 gameplay was inherently scummy and haven't been pinged in any way since

With the obvious exception of Aureal do you disagree with any of my conclusions from D1?

[camelCasedSnivy]

it was mainly because i thought your day 1 gameplay was inherently scummy and haven't been pinged in any way since

With the obvious exception of Aureal do you disagree with any of my conclusions from D1?

wdym by a conclusion

[Bingle]

wdym by a conclusion

My reads. Particularly, I came to pretty strong townreads on Ranger/DE/Anix/Koba and I think that scum is mostly if not exclusively in the low content players. Do you disagree/agree?

I was quite obviously wrong about Aureal scum, but do you think I'm right/wrong about my other reads and how does that factor into you thinking my D1 is sus?

[ofrhz]

Ultimately your choice though. Unless this day quickends in the next 37 hours (the day needs to last 72 hours for my vigshot to activate), I have satisfied every other necessary component to vigshot you. Either you start being honest with the town about your role or I'll just have the mod be honest about what your role was.

we have death millers already, what makes you think de70's role will be real too?

Claim your night action?

[Cook]

Ultimately your choice though. Unless this day quickends in the next 37 hours (the day needs to last 72 hours for my vigshot to activate), I have satisfied every other necessary component to vigshot you. Either you start being honest with the town about your role or I'll just have the mod be honest about what your role was.

we have death millers already, what makes you think de70's role will be real too?

Claim your night action?

targeted bingle, he's hated now

[Cook]

VOTE: bingle

let anix get a vigkill power though so hold off on the kill

[Cook]

to future wagoners of bingle, bingle will be hammered at 7 votes, not 8. e-2 is e-1.

[xyzzy]

votecount 2.03

the only difference between the last votecount and this one is that the order of the not voting players is slightly different. riveting stuff

p-edit: oh okay then this one is a little bit more different

4 players voting for Cook (Ranger, Ircher, Save The Dragons, ofrhz)
2 players voting for Bingle (Meuh, Cook)
1 player voting for DragonEater70 (AniX)
1 player voting for AniX (Yimmy)
1 player voting for Theta Alpine (Bingle)

6 players not voting (Political Clout, KatyKimFanClub, Skygazer, DragonEater70, Theta Alpine, camelCasedSnivy)

with 15 votes, it takes 8 to eliminate.

mod notes: re:3804, the recruitment clause in DkKoba's flip concerns recruitment into a faction, so it doesn't apply to any sort of non-factional recruitment. I am looking for a replacement for Political Clout.

note: this was edited to correct a missed unvote after votecount 2.05. previously, camelCasedSnivy was listed as voting for Bingle.