Micro 1090: Fruit Mafia - Game Over!

[Aristeia]

i have a hard time convincing myself datisi is mafia sorry its probably just me

Ok so like who's the team

DE70 + Ausuka or DE70 + Datisi

I don't think it's Ausuka + Datisi

[skitter30]

ok but you're hedging on both ausuka and dats

[Aristeia]

I'm hedging because I'm town and I'm uncertain

[Aristeia]

If I'm scum I don't really need to keep multiple avenues open to say oops after a mislim because a mislim ends the game

[Aristeia]

I don't know why anyone kills infinity or marci here

detective skitter beat the truth out of her suspects because she didn't believe in due process

[skitter30]

>.>
ok so you're saying that you think it's dragon?

[Aristeia]

yea

[Aristeia]

like if Ausuka is a miller then it's Datisi + Dragoneater

and if Datisi is town then it's Dragoneater + Ausuka

I've always kind of thought Ausuka = miller = town but like I'd feel pretty bad if Datisi!town has been yelling at me that Ausuka might be mafia and I didn't listen to him because I cared more about my beliefs than his.

[Aristeia]

I can be quite stubborn and tiresome to deal with and I guess I'm trying to change that.

[Aristeia]

I'm leaning towards ari scum rn, that's all i got

it feels like people are just waiting for you to vote me atp because that's like a win state for at least two out of the three.

[Aristeia]

I'm not sure what I can do to show you that I'm town here but if you have any ideas I'm all ears.

[Ausuka]

look in my defense this feels like work because i've already read all your isos and i only like intermittently get new thoughts when i read them again >_>

[Ausuka]

altho fwiw i kind of don't expect skitter to vote

it seems more likely we're going to get crossvoting in the four of us??

[Ausuka]

at least that's intuitive to me

[Aristeia]

that seems less than optimal to me

[Ausuka]

i think that is what usually happens? or what i'm used to in elo

it's late forgive me if im being slow

[Aristeia]

like skitter is conftown

then there's 2 mafia and 2 town between the four of us.

so there's no way any group of us can eliminate without skitter's help unless scum bus or w/e.

and if one of us who is town votes another of us who is town, we automatically lose.

so here's what can happen:

(1) town votes town, skitter doesn't get to make a vote, we lose.
(2) town votes scum, deadlock, skitter makes a decision.
(3) scum votes town, deadlock, skitter makes a decision.
(4) scum busses, scum gets yeeted, skitter doesn't need to make a decision.

I don't think world (4) is going to happen because skitter wants to vote me, which removes any incentive for the scum team to bus, they can simply wait for her to vote me.

thus it's like better for skitter to just make the decision, which she ends up doing in world 2/3 anyway and if she's right we have tommorrow and if she's wrong we won't.

and it all together avoids world 1, which is that a townie other than skitter makes the wrong decision.

Yes I am aware this might be dumb since she wants to yeet me but it is what it is.

[Aristeia]

i think that is what usually happens? or what i'm used to in elo

it's late forgive me if im being slow

I mean you might be right I am not like an expert on elos I just have lots of thoughts and I don't really like making decisions

[Ausuka]

i think usually what happens is like, skitter will make the decision eventually, but the crossvote gives her more info to go on by ruling out a team? shrug idk i'll think it over more tomorrow

[Ausuka]

i do get the argument that world 1 is bad

shrug i guess i can go along with whatever method skitter would want to do

[Aristeia]

ok

have a good night Ausuka

[Ausuka]

ty

[skitter30]

I'm not sure what I can do to show you that I'm town here but if you have any ideas I'm all ears.

Anything in ur iso you can't fake as scum?

[skitter30]

like skitter is conftown

then there's 2 mafia and 2 town between the four of us.

so there's no way any group of us can eliminate without skitter's help unless scum bus or w/e.

and if one of us who is town votes another of us who is town, we automatically lose.

so here's what can happen:

(1) town votes town, skitter doesn't get to make a vote, we lose.
(2) town votes scum, deadlock, skitter makes a decision.
(3) scum votes town, deadlock, skitter makes a decision.
(4) scum busses, scum gets yeeted, skitter doesn't need to make a decision.

I don't think world (4) is going to happen because skitter wants to vote me, which removes any incentive for the scum team to bus, they can simply wait for her to vote me.

thus it's like better for skitter to just make the decision, which she ends up doing in world 2/3 anyway and if she's right we have tommorrow and if she's wrong we won't.

and it all together avoids world 1, which is that a townie other than skitter makes the wrong decision.

Yes I am aware this might be dumb since she wants to yeet me but it is what it is.

I hate being the decider >.>
I'm not sure i'm voting u here actually i'm still in a bit of a tossup and havent done my homework yet

But i agree with ur logic

[Aristeia]

I don't think there's anything that I'm incapable of faking and I think it'd be violating the trust tell rule if I said I only do something as town and I can't fake it as scum.