Datisi's University [game over!]

[Andresvmb]

looking at rangers list everyone who sheeped her except for ari is in her upper half; i wonder if she put them up there because of the sheep or as a pocket/being scumbuddies

Okay more like this actually. Have we checked if this claim is true?

[Andresvmb]

I wish this game moved at a faster pace but i'm also not particularly convinced by the current leading wagons so i don't feel like voting them.
Shucks.
Like why is Ranger being voted? Because they "could" be faking? I think their current level of activity and engagement should make them a obvious slot to leave for later compared to many other much more likely to be scum slots.

Or this?

[Andresvmb]

^@Alisae

Like I’m curious as to why you decided to call MY argument “terrible” but ignored these.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m trying to put it into words and like…

I feel like what Dusa is doing is to use their gimmick to avoid their takes being scrutinized.

If they said: "I scumread Ranger because of this post" and it’s not very convincing then they should get called out for it.

But they are specifically going: "Lord Zeus and Hades vibe me this that Ranger is a child of the sea snake demon and i prophesize that blah blah" then nobody can criticize them because of their gimmick making it hard to actually understand what they are thinking.

Isn’t this how a scum!Dusa could be playing?
Is this how town plays gimmick accounts?
I don’t feel like it is.

Ngl hate this take, I don’t see Dusa hiding their takes at all. If you need help deciphering a post let me know I’ll help.

That’s ok, just hearing you say this is informative to me.
I really just want to hear more people’s actual take on Dusa, (and their own response).

[NorwegianboyEE]

^@Alisae

Like I’m curious as to why you decided to call MY argument “terrible” but ignored these.

Alisae prob thinks all my takes are so terrible at all times they just see me as a lost cause by now.

[Andresvmb]

{Dusa, Snivy}. I’m also fairly convinced osuka is Scum but I want to finish reading today before finalizing that.

I take my read of osuka back funny enough. Still conflicted.

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Ranger Easily flips red and I think Snivy flips red if that’s the case.

Here's an idea; help me bus camelCasedSnivy, the elimination I kept advocating for yesterday which nobody was interested in despite how obviously scum he is.

Like to be honest I don’t see Scum making this post ever.

Isn't 'help me bus' a classic scum tactic? What exactly is town about this?

[Ranger]

i said "i'm wary of how [a wagon] came about", and you immediately jump to "who do you scumread that's on it"? that's fucking glaring

They're one and the same. If you think the formation of the wagon suspect,

by default

, those forming it must contain suspects. Otherwise, it's not suspect for it to form.

that's not necessarily true. you can sway a lot of people into a wagon long before you vote it yourself, if you're competent enough as scum

Then who were the players doing so for Snivy?

[Ranger]

fuck it i have no idea if i should vote ranger or snivy, but i think i'm leaning towards ranger

I'm going to warn you; when I flip town, you'll almost assuredly be the focus on D3.

Whereas if we get Snivy, then maybe the crowd who has pushed Ranger/osuka since Sail was around would perhaps be forced to reevaluate their biases.

[Ranger]

snivy why are you being weird about claiming now when earlier you were like “oh i should just claim now and get it over with ugh ugh”

I wonder.

Could it perhaps be the entire thing was performative, designed to drop pressure on him and he was hoping people would forget?

Just a thought.

[Ranger]

I think I'd prefer a Ranger elimination, I realised my townread was based on an incorrect memory/perception of meta.

I'm skeptical of this reasoning behind a pivot.

[Ranger]

Ranger do you still scumread CSS or do you think there is at all the possibility they could be town here?

Everyone I scumread could be town. There's always doubts. It's not as if camelCasedSnivy's 100% guaranteed scum. I understand why people could read him town and see signs supporting that possibility. However, the overall picture strongly indicates to me he's scum. CCS isn't even bothering to effort on the verge of death's door. He's letting others defend him and is doing nothing to leave what could potentially be final thoughts. Consistently, he's demonstrating his goal's to survive, not find scum.

[Ranger]

I don’t really feel the same enthusiasm so what is the piece i’m missing if CSS is scum?

When you are neck and neck tied for the lead wagon as town, what do you do? Personally, my preference is to provide a great deal of snark while providing my reads for course correcting after my townflip.

When you are neck and neck tied for the lead wagon as scum, what do you do? There's two school of thoughts. One is to mimic the townplay above by hardcore efforting. The other is to be antispew and do the bare minimum.

Which of these more closely resembles camelCasedSnivy's play?

[Ranger]

Do you think scum are on Ranger right? Who would you guess?

Honestly, almost anyone.

dismissal

Ranger [7]:

Titus, Dannflor, Dusa, camelCasedSnivy, Enchant, WhemeStar, furtiveglance

I'm fairly confident Dannflor's town.

Everyone else on the wagon could be scum.

I

lean

town on Titus. I'm more ambivalent on Dusa.

The entire wagon composition, save Dannflor, is suspect though.

[Ranger]

i have returned, prepare yourselves for the hottest takes of all time

osuka, perhaps a bit like me, is getting away with a lot of this.

And I believe both of you town from it.

[Ranger]

the belief behind this? We’re just ignoring that?

Apparently.

[Ranger]

I just don’t rely on meta as much as you seem to do.

Actually, a lot of my reads are based primarily around the play in the game. Meta's a tool to augment it, giving leeway to slots from playstyle things, giving extra sus to slots for not displaying playstyle things, etc.

My feelings on Drew are he's displaying a solving mindset, and I don't believe it's scum faking one; that's the most important thing I look for in any player.

[Ranger]

I’m not particularly happy about my read there changing today

This is a problem too many players have, and is the entire reason why I'm willing to flip someone from bottom of my readslist to near the top or vice-versa. Players have a bad habit of holding onto reads without considering new facts; my entire mantra is to avoid having done so.

I'm not perfect about it. I still have biases which take time for me to catch and correct. Still, the result of this methodology is, it increases the value behind the reads which

aren't

shifting. It means if a read

hasn't

changed, there's good reason for it having remained.

[Dannflor]

VOTE: CCS

[Ranger]

If they really wanted to stop Sail from going through

This is a point people continue to get wrong, so apparently I need to continuously correct it.

I didn't want to stop Sail from going through.

I stated my belief Sail was town.
I stated my preference for other wagons.
I didn't have such strong reads as to push against the wagon. I knew Sail could've flipped scum, and I didn't feel like derailing a potential scum wagon because I didn't see it as scum. My townread could've been wrong, considering it was weak and somewhat flimsy. Sail flipping town was my expectation; I didn't think it guaranteed. Why would I fight hard against a wagon which could've flipped against my expectation?

This seems to be a concept people don't get, and I don't understand how it isn't clear. Has nobody had a townread on a wagon they still support going through because they're aware they could be wrong and their townread could be scum? It shouldn't be a hard concept to grasp, yet seemingly, nobody understands that was my Sail stance.

[Ranger]

VOTE: CCS

Curious what inspired this.

[Ranger]

{KatyKimFanClub, GuiltyLion, NorwegianboyEE, Alisae, Dannflor, Doctor Drew}
{osuka}
{Andresvmb}
{Titus}
{Dusa}
{furtiveglance, Enchant}
{RCEnigma, WhemeStar}
{Aristeia, camelCasedSnivy}

[Dannflor]

I just feel more confident in CCS at this moment

combination of some glimmers of doubt regarding your slot and some growing confidence in CCS

mostly i don’t think his read trajectory on you makes like any sense from a town perspective, and i think that’s regardless of your alignment here

[Ranger]

I'm back to CCS stronger scumread.


{KatyKimFanClub, GuiltyLion, NorwegianboyEE, Alisae, Dannflor, Doctor Drew}
{osuka}
{Andresvmb}
{Titus}
{Dusa}
{furtiveglance, Enchant}
{RCEnigma, WhemeStar}
{Aristeia}
{camelCasedSnivy}

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: CSS