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Post Post #3050 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:57 am

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In post 3035, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 3033, Enchant wrote:
In post 3024, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 3000, Enchant wrote:
In post 2998, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 2996, NorwegianboyEE wrote: The Furtive can be seen retracting it's fur and slowly moving towards the bushes in order to hide from the perceived threat. Nature is truly beautiful.
Do you know why you're voting me right now?
So you can be eliminated.

Duh.
Yeah can you see why I don't really know what to respond to
Free tip.

Best defence is good offence.
Start offending people.
Find someone evil, explain and suggest to vote.

I mean, just countering arguments and hoping people move on is probably not best proposal.
Ranger is clearly my preferred option, she's been hopping on anything to save her and it looks more and more like the game that she was scum with me in.
Cmon now.
You can't have only ONE person you think are evil.

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Post Post #3051 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:00 am

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In post 3045, Ranger wrote:
In post 2992, Dannflor wrote:furtive, you just like aren’t doing anything that i have seen
Mostly. It’s more, furtiveglance is far less vocal than a town-furtive
should
be.

A town furtive should be strongly advocating for his worldview; if things aren’t going in a way he supports, he should be actively trying to force things closer to his ideals.

Here, he's passive. He's sitting back. He's doing things, yet nothing memorable. He has a very forgettable presence. Given a town-furtive can top the posting charts and be rather memorable, this is in of itself suspicious.
I've been playing less vocally than [previous towngames] for the entire duration of this game. You only dropped me to bottom of your reads and 'noticed this' after I voted you and support was voiced for my elimination today.

On the meta claim, my townplay has been more reserved/less vocal pretty much since March. Here's my most recent towngame (under the Students of Prudence hydra): BooneyToonz XVI.

My most recent completed towngame on this account was Masterchef Mafiascum. A lot of players were scumreading me for posting less vocally then too.

It should be clear to see that Ranger is being dishonest about her own read on me this game here, apart from anything else.
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Post Post #3052 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:03 am

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In post 3050, Enchant wrote:
In post 3035, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 3033, Enchant wrote:
In post 3024, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 3000, Enchant wrote:
In post 2998, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 2996, NorwegianboyEE wrote: The Furtive can be seen retracting it's fur and slowly moving towards the bushes in order to hide from the perceived threat. Nature is truly beautiful.
Do you know why you're voting me right now?
So you can be eliminated.

Duh.
Yeah can you see why I don't really know what to respond to
Free tip.

Best defence is good offence.
Start offending people.
Find someone evil, explain and suggest to vote.

I mean, just countering arguments and hoping people move on is probably not best proposal.
Ranger is clearly my preferred option, she's been hopping on anything to save her and it looks more and more like the game that she was scum with me in.
Cmon now.
You can't have only ONE person you think are evil.

Even i have more and i am lazy.
Norwee, Dusa, osuka, RC?

I don't see why it's unreasonable for Ranger to be my strongest scumread by far, especially given how openly she's changed her opinions.
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Post Post #3053 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:04 am

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In post 3006, Alisae wrote:I was ABOUT to suggest that maybe
Furtive
, Ranger, and GL could be teamed?
Someday, people will stop pairing me with my top scumread.

Alas, not today.

Feel free to help me bus furtiveglance though.
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Post Post #3054 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:07 am

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In post 3010, Alisae wrote:if there is a universe where all 3 of you are town but like what's going on in this game if so?
Fairly simple, actually:
Scum sat back, did nothing, and let town eat town.

Scum need not effort if a town's naturally destroying itself without their help.

That’s part of my furtiveglance suspicion; I believe he was content letting us do so, and only began to shift when he realized we were beginning to catch on.
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Post Post #3055 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:10 am

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In post 3014, Dannflor wrote:Like I’m probably ready to town lock all of Dusa/Drew/GL
Though I've minor reservations on Drew, these are largely paranoia. I agree with locking those three as town.

I'd add NorwegianboyEE and Alisae as well.

Potentially add in Andresvmp, and that’s a good start for a townbloc.
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Post Post #3056 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:13 am

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In post 3023, Alisae wrote:{
Ari,
Dusa, GL, Dann, Enchant, Norwee, Andres, Drew,
Titus, RCE
} This is a very good start for a townbloc
Almost. I'd remove the bolded. The rest, I agree with.

I'll show in a proper readslist as I'm able to.
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Post Post #3057 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:15 am

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In post 3025, Alisae wrote:WhemeStar
Ranger
furtiveglance
camelCasedSnivy
osuka

Ya okay so I think I just am okay with killing anyone in this pile of people?
Wheme doesn't immediately come across to me as mafia but I have the read of him being mafia. Honestly nothing of value is lost if he dies but I feel like his stances don't make sense to be mafia stances? Easier to read as the game goes on.
Help me yeet furtiveglance and WhemeStar, and then come back to me on the rest after.
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Post Post #3058 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:17 am

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In post 3035, furtiveglance wrote:Ranger is clearly my preferred option, she's been hopping on anything to save her and it looks more and more like the game that she was scum with me in.
There’s definitely a player resembling their scumgame from there.

It certainly isn’t me.

My play demonstrates the first half a blatant lie, too.
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Post Post #3059 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:21 am

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In post 3052, furtiveglance wrote:I don't see why it's unreasonable for Ranger to be my strongest scumread by far, especially given how openly she's changed her opinions.
It’s certainly a commonality on this site to not change opinions.

I don’t ascribe to that philosophy.

I believe you're outright fabricating your read on me.
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Post Post #3060 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:24 am

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{GuiltyLion, NorwegianboyEE, Dannflor, Alisae, Dusa}
{camelCasedSnivy, Doctor Drew}
{Andresvmb, Enchant}
{osuka, KatyKimFanClub}
{Titus}
{RCEnigma, WhemeStar}
{Aristeia}
{furtiveglance}

Loosely. Top three tiers are accurate more or less, any inaccuracies are slots misplaced within the top 3, yet none don’t deserve top 3 tiers imo.
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Post Post #3061 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:32 am

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In post 3052, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 3050, Enchant wrote:
In post 3035, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 3033, Enchant wrote:
In post 3024, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 3000, Enchant wrote:
In post 2998, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 2996, NorwegianboyEE wrote: The Furtive can be seen retracting it's fur and slowly moving towards the bushes in order to hide from the perceived threat. Nature is truly beautiful.
Do you know why you're voting me right now?
So you can be eliminated.

Duh.
Yeah can you see why I don't really know what to respond to
Free tip.

Best defence is good offence.
Start offending people.
Find someone evil, explain and suggest to vote.

I mean, just countering arguments and hoping people move on is probably not best proposal.
Ranger is clearly my preferred option, she's been hopping on anything to save her and it looks more and more like the game that she was scum with me in.
Cmon now.
You can't have only ONE person you think are evil.

Even i have more and i am lazy.
Norwee, Dusa, osuka, RC?

I don't see why it's unreasonable for Ranger to be my strongest scumread by far, especially given how openly she's changed her opinions.
Weird list if ranger is your #1 scumread.
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Post Post #3062 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:35 am

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In post 3061, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 3052, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 3050, Enchant wrote:
In post 3035, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 3033, Enchant wrote:
In post 3024, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 3000, Enchant wrote:
In post 2998, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 2996, NorwegianboyEE wrote: The Furtive can be seen retracting it's fur and slowly moving towards the bushes in order to hide from the perceived threat. Nature is truly beautiful.
Do you know why you're voting me right now?
So you can be eliminated.

Duh.
Yeah can you see why I don't really know what to respond to
Free tip.

Best defence is good offence.
Start offending people.
Find someone evil, explain and suggest to vote.

I mean, just countering arguments and hoping people move on is probably not best proposal.
Ranger is clearly my preferred option, she's been hopping on anything to save her and it looks more and more like the game that she was scum with me in.
Cmon now.
You can't have only ONE person you think are evil.

Even i have more and i am lazy.
Norwee, Dusa, osuka, RC?

I don't see why it's unreasonable for Ranger to be my strongest scumread by far, especially given how openly she's changed her opinions.
Weird list if ranger is your #1 scumread.
Well, given the wagon on Ranger is just me and Titus now, I'm not really taking other former Ranger voters as clear of being partnered.
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Post Post #3063 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:36 am

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Before I lean which way I wanna vote, dann where is your ranger read at right now?
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Post Post #3064 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:38 am

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Dude what? Well for one, Titus threw the first vote down but didn’t do much to build the case against ranger. I’d say that is Dusa, dann, and myself who also spent the day advocating Ranger and pushing the wagon near e-1 before you shuffled off the wagon.
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Post Post #3065 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:39 am

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So how is your scum circle all of the slots that out in the work to elim your top scumread minus Dann because he’s not limmable?
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Post Post #3066 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:43 am

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In post 3063, RCEnigma wrote: Before I lean which way I wanna vote, dann where is your ranger read at right now?
Bahh it’s less important now, I’m just gonna vote furtive regardless.

But I wanted to get your take on Ranger sending us in completely different directions of their readslist despite us having the same issues with her slot and pushing the same points.

Idk how I reconcile the same case coming from 2 players but one of their process being townie and the other coming from scum.


In other news my townread of Wheme is shakey right now and I think them getting active now when they are a wagon option again is just going to tank it more.
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Post Post #3067 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:22 am

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I really don’t like Ranger’s reaction to my push on CCS but I can’t tell if it’s like too blatant to be partnered
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Post Post #3068 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:24 am

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In post 3066, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 3063, RCEnigma wrote: Before I lean which way I wanna vote, dann where is your ranger read at right now?
Bahh it’s less important now, I’m just gonna vote furtive regardless.

But I wanted to get your take on Ranger sending us in completely different directions of their readslist despite us having the same issues with her slot and pushing the same points.

Idk how I reconcile the same case coming from 2 players but one of their process being townie and the other coming from scum.


In other news my townread of Wheme is shakey right now and I think them getting active now when they are a wagon option again is just going to tank it more.
thread consensus is that I am townier than you I think

so that comes to mind
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Post Post #3069 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:25 am

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I guess if Ranger thinks I’m town and smart :angel:

idk why she hasn’t commented on either my Titus or RCE town cases
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Post Post #3070 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:25 am

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In post 3065, RCEnigma wrote: So how is your scum circle all of the slots that out in the work to elim your top scumread minus Dann because he’s not limmable?
I already said, I'm more confident on Ranger than any other read. The others, including you, I'm not locked on.
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Post Post #3071 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:26 am

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am I being crazy about CCS, RCE? i didn’t see you comment
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Post Post #3072 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:26 am

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furtive i am also wondering if you read my wall
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Post Post #3073 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:28 am

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In post 3064, RCEnigma wrote: Dude what? Well for one, Titus threw the first vote down but didn’t do much to build the case against ranger. I’d say that is Dusa, dann, and myself who also spent the day advocating Ranger and pushing the wagon near e-1 before you shuffled off the wagon.
When did Furtive shuffle off the Ranger wagon

Or am I misreading this
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Post Post #3074 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:28 am

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In post 3072, Dannflor wrote: furtive i am also wondering if you read my wall
I did

I read CCS' claim fumbling as genuine, that's my most fundamental disagreement with what you said

I think it's possible BlueSnakelet acted in a way that didn't line up with his advice to others

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