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Post Post #3175 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:24 am

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In post 3171, Dusa wrote:
In post 3166, GuiltyLion wrote: I still think CCS might be 3p and some of this resistance to limming him is coming from scum who figure he's either town or 3p, but that's something we can evaluate afterwards with knowledge of CCS flip in hand
This is like one of those things that can be simultaneous true and useless to post. I mean that not to trash on you but just to discourage 3p stuff. You should always live action roleplay that there is no 3p until all mafia are dead
I wouldn't call it useless, these types of games almost always have at least one 3p in them.
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Post Post #3176 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:26 am

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i mean, if bluesnakelet was going for 2 protects, 10 is not that much to sacrifice
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Post Post #3177 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:26 am

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In post 3173, Dusa wrote:
In post 3169, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 3165, Dusa wrote: My feeling in furtive is that he's been a little too backgroundy and that makes the slot nullscum to me, even if he characterizes it somewhat well. But it's not too hard to overwhelm that with flips suggesting it's a town slot. It's kinda gutsy to combine the passivescum strat with the "bus and play solo" strat
I'm not sure I understand this, I haven't bussed anyone...yet :lol:

Are you basing your read on me on pre-flips?
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I'm optimistic you might be pushing 2 scum today
Me too. I'm enthused by the voices voting with me as well.
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Post Post #3178 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:27 am

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In post 3168, Titus wrote:
In post 3164, Dannflor wrote: CCS is just the highest percentage chance red flip right now

And this game needs a red flip imo

If Ranger is town I’m kind of afraid it is disastrous to flip her now
Disagree. It does nothing to solve yesterday. It gives some info today but Ranger is skating here.

It's disasterous to flip any town here. Ranger's not special.

Why is CCS more likely to flip red? Or is it just the red flip you feel is possible?

Save me some reading please. Has anyone claimed?
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Post Post #3179 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:27 am

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Oh nvm GL summarized it well
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Post Post #3180 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:28 am

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In post 3124, KatyKimFanClub wrote: Like one of the things that is stuck in my head is cCS mentioning that he would be on osuka permanently after claiming. That strategy just blatantly doesn't work if osuka is town, and unless there's another protective in the game then it's always a free extra kill. I'm wondering what alignment is prone to saying something like that.
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Post Post #3181 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:28 am

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In post 3175, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 3171, Dusa wrote:
In post 3166, GuiltyLion wrote: I still think CCS might be 3p and some of this resistance to limming him is coming from scum who figure he's either town or 3p, but that's something we can evaluate afterwards with knowledge of CCS flip in hand
This is like one of those things that can be simultaneous true and useless to post. I mean that not to trash on you but just to discourage 3p stuff. You should always live action roleplay that there is no 3p until all mafia are dead
I wouldn't call it useless, these types of games almost always have at least one 3p in them.
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Post Post #3182 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:29 am

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I kinda have found myself getting mad at GuiltyLion when I disagree with him instead of eyebrows which means that I subconsciously or consciously townread him which means Dannflor is kind of alone now as the possible "scum who is playing well" slot
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Post Post #3183 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:30 am

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well not sure what to really say about snakelets choice to do 0% since it was his thing but sure
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Post Post #3184 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:30 am

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In post 3181, Dannflor wrote:
In post 3175, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 3171, Dusa wrote:
In post 3166, GuiltyLion wrote: I still think CCS might be 3p and some of this resistance to limming him is coming from scum who figure he's either town or 3p, but that's something we can evaluate afterwards with knowledge of CCS flip in hand
This is like one of those things that can be simultaneous true and useless to post. I mean that not to trash on you but just to discourage 3p stuff. You should always live action roleplay that there is no 3p until all mafia are dead
I wouldn't call it useless, these types of games almost always have at least one 3p in them.
is this a townslip
Everything I said to gl about the town side of 3p hunting applies to scum also actually and god I wish I was scum with Drew, running a tight ship, making no mention of the guaranteed 3p and elicited this organically
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Post Post #3185 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:34 am

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ina marija gets kinda frozen as scum and I just don't think she could keep tango posting with Dann as scum don't ever touch the Alisae slot. Also bodyguard that slot.

Separately Ali is too good at scum to be exerting this little control rn
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Post Post #3186 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:35 am

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In post 3174, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 3168, Titus wrote: Why is CCS more likely to flip red?
CCS claimed a babysitter role that requires 110 TPR for two uses, and that BlueSnakelet studied 0% yesterday to accumulate 100 TPR.

In post BlueSnakelet said protectives should get a max of 100 TPR to use (group 2).

this means for CCS to be town and telling the truth, BlueSnakelet either a) planned to give himself more TPR than he said his role should be allowed, or b) wanted to give himself 50 TPR that he would not be able use for no reason

this would not make sense coming from town who posted , therefore CCS is lying about BlueSnakelet charging 100 TPR points
This rests precisely on the assumption of which group BS thought himself in. It also supposes that the purpose behind BS's post wasn't control. The player who goes to that length has an overvalued sense of self. BS thinks they're important so is likely to put themselves in a higher group because of them weilding it.

Assuming BS/CCS town, the goal is to stop useless PR activation and 233 does that (if everyone cared to listen. I wouldn't as I don't value roles the same way).

I think BS was just full of themselves.

Then again, eliminate all babysitters is a thing since I played it.
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Post Post #3187 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:38 am

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enjoy not having the test answers then :lol:
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Post Post #3188 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:38 am

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In post 3184, Dusa wrote:
In post 3181, Dannflor wrote:
In post 3175, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 3171, Dusa wrote:
In post 3166, GuiltyLion wrote: I still think CCS might be 3p and some of this resistance to limming him is coming from scum who figure he's either town or 3p, but that's something we can evaluate afterwards with knowledge of CCS flip in hand
This is like one of those things that can be simultaneous true and useless to post. I mean that not to trash on you but just to discourage 3p stuff. You should always live action roleplay that there is no 3p until all mafia are dead
I wouldn't call it useless, these types of games almost always have at least one 3p in them.
is this a townslip
Everything I said to gl about the town side of 3p hunting applies to scum also actually and god I wish I was scum with Drew, running a tight ship, making no mention of the guaranteed 3p and elicited this organically
Ha, I think I knew there was a 3p, just haven't really thought about it much. Was confused for a minute before I checked the game setup lol.

But scumDrew and scumIsis, this type of fury would not be safe to witness.
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Post Post #3189 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:42 am

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In post 3187, camelCasedSnivy wrote: enjoy not having the test answers then :lol:
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Post Post #3190 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:44 am

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In post 3166, GuiltyLion wrote: I still think CCS might be 3p and some of this resistance to limming him is coming from scum who figure he's either town or 3p
Took them long enough.
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Post Post #3191 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:45 am

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In post 3189, Titus wrote:
In post 3187, camelCasedSnivy wrote: enjoy not having the test answers then :lol:
:?:
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Post Post #3192 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:46 am

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In post 3186, Titus wrote: BS thinks they're important so is likely to put themselves in a higher group because of them weilding it.
he literally says all of the following:
- protectives are in group 2
- probably only one role in the game that's group 3
- everybody in group 2 will do all their non-studying day 1
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Post Post #3193 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:47 am

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I don't see contradiction.

He didn't study D1.
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Post Post #3194 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:50 am

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In post 3148, Dusa wrote: I mean if anyone legitimately thought snivy was a scumhunter towny, valiant champion, curious heart. That'd be diff. But everyone is like "this slot is mid but it claimed BABYSITTER"
actually ya i am useless
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Post Post #3195 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:51 am

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In post 3182, Dusa wrote: I kinda have found myself getting mad at GuiltyLion when I disagree with him instead of eyebrows which means that I subconsciously or consciously townread him which means Dannflor is kind of alone now as the possible "scum who is playing well" slot
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Post Post #3196 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:51 am

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VOTE: Snivy

Dusa and Ali are in a tier of town that I would take a bullet for

Dann just oozes town and GL has town slipped multiple times

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Post Post #3197 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:51 am

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like the fact that so many people are trying to invent explanations for why BlueSnake contradicted himself is giving me pause because this is the most explicit instance of someone lying (or at minimum, acting in a way that contradicts what they said they'd do) that you can possibly have, if this were a miselim it's literally a free ticket for scum to hop on and take no blame for it

@Enchant are you misunderstanding something? he didn't study D1, earning himself 100 TPR. TPR is inversely related to how much you study
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Post Post #3198 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:52 am

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the only reason i was more defensive to pushes this game was because i wasnt a VT

now i dont care all too much anyway
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Post Post #3199 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:52 am

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Babysitter is not useless, it's kind of opposite.

You can not act and bait bullet in self, only costing your life (which is beneficial honestly). Or you can act and potentially block it.


None of PRs are useless. Unless they are neighborizers or some negative utility.
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