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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:00 am

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In post 570, ZZZX wrote:
In post 568, the worst wrote: i am just a neighbour

just noting for the record that zzzx is doing the same thing where they are keeping JV in their pool without finding any reason to suspect JV.

also shade at me for voting too early? like what excuse me? i just spent like two pages outlining the fact that unless i accept rn as scum -- which i've talked through why i don't at length - my POE is literally JV/zzzx

i get that this is easy to go at me for because voting too early ~ ~ looks bad ~ ~ but it seems really clear to me that zzzx is not doing anything different. like unless they're considering RN then the game is on lock for them too? their posting just reads as disingenuous
The reason I have you both in my pool is basic process of elim, that was the fact that if neither you or JV are scum, then the game is already lost. That, and I honestly think that RN is most likely town, but I have questions.

I think I was quite clear about it actually
i haven't really seen you do any meaningful work to sort RN but you're still hedging on RN? there aren't that many worlds left - if RN is scum you need to be able to find a partner for them

like you're just out here trying to say things and coast through and hoping like hell that other players do something before you do


i'm suddenly realising that me snap-voting jv probably was not part of The Plan for scum here
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:01 am

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In post 574, Random Nurse wrote:
@bianco: Are you able to tell me if the Scum have Daytalk enabled or no? I'm not seeing any mention of it in the Setup post.
if it helps any, the hood is open during the day

i've kinda been ghosting since daystart
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:02 am

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In post 576, the worst wrote:
In post 574, Random Nurse wrote:
@bianco: Are you able to tell me if the Scum have Daytalk enabled or no? I'm not seeing any mention of it in the Setup post.
if it helps any, the hood is open during the day

i've kinda been ghosting since daystart

Neat. What's the post count?
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:03 am

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@worst, what discussions happened in the neighborhood?
Implosion: I see ZZZX was
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:06 am

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Give us in as much detail as possible, day by day, what the discussions there were.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:07 am

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In post 96, biancospino wrote:
Votecount 1-FINAL

With 9 alive, it took 5 to hammer.


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Random Nurse (1):
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In post 457, biancospino wrote:
Votecount 2-FINAL

With 7 alive, it took 4 to hammer.


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Passenger
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Random Nurse
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JacksonVirgo (1):
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:09 am

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Not sure how to read these two final VCs.

ZZZX was on both of them but to be fair so were me and Wiz. Perhaps Scum wanted one member on the final wagon and one member off at all times to spread out.
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:13 am

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In post 577, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 576, the worst wrote:
In post 574, Random Nurse wrote:
@bianco: Are you able to tell me if the Scum have Daytalk enabled or no? I'm not seeing any mention of it in the Setup post.
if it helps any, the hood is open during the day

i've kinda been ghosting since daystart

Neat. What's the post count?
for obvious reasons, i won't be sharing post counts or timestamps, but i've done by best to summarise the conversations in the hood. it has not been very active. there's some superficial effort between blue & heip but i think blue put in more effort tbqh.

blue posted a readlist d1, heip criticised a couple of reads (in particular blue thought NM was really scummy early which is pretty funny to me).

they mostly chatted during n1, they had opinions!!! about your hammer post. both players considered your scum equity. blue's posting in the hood makes me think they might have clocked you as a TPR (i'm going to need to circle back to this postgame sorry because obviously i can't quote and it's weird tonal/conversational stuff), i think heip had you down as scum overnight.

blue had some sort of wagon plan on d2 involving their premature vote on you and asked heip to keep their vote where it was.
In post 179, Passenger wrote:
In post 156, AnimatedWiz wrote: vanilla Villager.
is that the wording of your role PM?
In post 180, Passenger wrote: In other words, is your role called "Vanilla Villager" or something else?
there was some musing over whether this was some kind of slip, but blue decided it probably wasn't.
In post 183, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 182, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 176, TheHoldSteady wrote:
In post 153, Random Nurse wrote: NOW, what do you make of the idea of a mass-claim? We are what, two mis-lims away from defeat? I need more information to work with and I think now is the time for all of us to put our cards on the table.
First, did you use your ability already Night 1? Meaning it can't be used Night 2?

Here let's make a list so we can keep track. Let me know if I missed anyone's claim. I'm an indecisive doctor

AnimatedWiz: VT
ZZZX: VT
Bluesnakelet: Neighbor
TheHoldSteady: Indecisive Doctor
RN: ?
Passenger: ?
heipizhu4: ?

RN please claim next.

First, did you use your ability already Night 1? Meaning it can't be used Night 2?
after this post both blue & heip clocked that you were a town power role and talked about it briefly. obviously you were about to claim.


JV replaces in, posts in the hood that they don't think passenger is scum. they say that if blue is town, then passenger logically should be. this is before jv turned around and started driving for a passenger lim.

JV questioned blue asking to be flipped if JV's slot flips red - blue gives a sassy response asking if JV is scum and JV never replies


i replace in and JV and i excitedly yell at each other before i realise we're in a hood and there's a flipped backup neighbour and we're probably doomed to be enemies
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:14 am

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In post 581, Random Nurse wrote: Not sure how to read these two final VCs.

ZZZX was on both of them but to be fair so were me and Wiz. Perhaps Scum wanted one member on the final wagon and one member off at all times to spread out.
just noting that a lot of the votes at the end of d1 were still rvs, so vca rules apply a little different here i think
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:15 am

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(1) So as a Traffic Analyst I can tell if someone can communicate privately.

(2) There being a flipped Town Backup neighbor doesn't mean there's other Neighbors. That's a clever way of trying to trick someone, especially a Traffic Analyst.

(3) I'm running under the assumption that Scum have Daytalk. However, our game moderator has not exactly specified this. Meaning, if the game mod had a mean streak, she could have it set so that Scum DON'T have Daytalk, meaning Wiz could still be Scum (I highly doubt this, but I would furrow my brow in frustration if thise were the case in hindsight).

(4) I suspect both claimed Neighbors may actually just be Scum that can privately communicate.
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:16 am

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ZZZX what's your current reads list please, if you're willing?
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:17 am

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In post 585, Random Nurse wrote: ZZZX what's your current reads list please, if you're willing?
Sure, just give me 10, finishing a game of league
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:19 am

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In post 172, BlueSnakelet wrote:
In post 168, ZZZX wrote: You know what? Fuck it. This game is going nowhere, and honestly, mass claiming is not the right move here normally, but if it is what it takes to revive the game then fuck it.

I am a Vanilla VT. We claim by pointing into someone else to claim one by one, I will quote whos next and if they dont instantly claim in their next post then we
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In post 169, ZZZX wrote:
In post 140, BlueSnakelet wrote:
[...]

Quoted for attention.

Claim, and choose someone to claim next.
UNVOTE: Nurse

I'm a Neighbor.

Steady claim next.
my slot was the first to claim, and claimed neighbour without a backup neighbour claim being in play. for what that's worth.

i do tend to agree that a world with informed scum is like, feasible, i'm just hoping that i've laid out the game clearly enough that y'all can see that i'm town.
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:20 am

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In post 527, JacksonVirgo wrote: I’m personally solving between ducky, zzz and RN and while I believe it’s almost certainly zzz.
RN and ducky occupy a conflicting slot imo as there’s no way they’re both real.
And I know I’m town from your own poe

OK what do you mean by conflicting slot?

By ducky do you mean the Worst?
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:21 am

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In post 588, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 527, JacksonVirgo wrote: I’m personally solving between ducky, zzz and RN and while I believe it’s almost certainly zzz.
RN and ducky occupy a conflicting slot imo as there’s no way they’re both real.
And I know I’m town from your own poe

OK what do you mean by conflicting slot?

By ducky do you mean the Worst?
JV and i have known each other for a few years and they've always called me ducky or duckyboi, so i can confidently say they meant me yeah
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:21 am

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In post 587, the worst wrote:
In post 172, BlueSnakelet wrote:
In post 168, ZZZX wrote: You know what? Fuck it. This game is going nowhere, and honestly, mass claiming is not the right move here normally, but if it is what it takes to revive the game then fuck it.

I am a Vanilla VT. We claim by pointing into someone else to claim one by one, I will quote whos next and if they dont instantly claim in their next post then we
lim
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In post 169, ZZZX wrote:
In post 140, BlueSnakelet wrote:
[...]

Quoted for attention.

Claim, and choose someone to claim next.
UNVOTE: Nurse

I'm a Neighbor.

Steady claim next.
my slot was the first to claim, and claimed neighbour without a backup neighbour claim being in play. for what that's worth.

i do tend to agree that a world with informed scum is like, feasible, i'm just hoping that i've laid out the game clearly enough that y'all can see that i'm town.

OK what are your reads right now?
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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:22 am

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In post 589, the worst wrote:
In post 588, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 527, JacksonVirgo wrote: I’m personally solving between ducky, zzz and RN and while I believe it’s almost certainly zzz.
RN and ducky occupy a conflicting slot imo as there’s no way they’re both real.
And I know I’m town from your own poe

OK what do you mean by conflicting slot?

By ducky do you mean the Worst?
JV and i have known each other for a few years and they've always called me ducky or duckyboi, so i can confidently say they meant me yeah

What does JV mean by conflicting slot?
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:24 am

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In post 574, Random Nurse wrote:
@bianco: Are you able to tell me if the Scum have Daytalk enabled or no? I'm not seeing any mention of it in the Setup post.
In post 1, biancospino wrote:
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:25 am

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In post 590, Random Nurse wrote: OK what are your reads right now?
like in a list?

myself
wiz
you
zzzx
jv


i'm kind of solving by teams at this point though, there's not that many that can still exist i don't think

least likely
rn/jv
rn/wiz
jv/zzzx
most likely

my brain is a mess so i might not be accounting for some fringe possibility but tbh it's like 90%+ jv/zzzx to me
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:26 am

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In post 591, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 589, the worst wrote:
In post 588, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 527, JacksonVirgo wrote: I’m personally solving between ducky, zzz and RN and while I believe it’s almost certainly zzz.
RN and ducky occupy a conflicting slot imo as there’s no way they’re both real.
And I know I’m town from your own poe

OK what do you mean by conflicting slot?

By ducky do you mean the Worst?
JV and i have known each other for a few years and they've always called me ducky or duckyboi, so i can confidently say they meant me yeah

What does JV mean by conflicting slot?
that one i don't know. if i had to guess i think they're saying that their poe is [you, zzzx, me] but they think zzzx is scum and one of us is the second.
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:29 am

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So I noticed at least two players called themselves "Vanilla VT" or "Vanilla Villager." Once is fine, but twice is a little strange. Not sure if it's worth pulling at that thread or not. Setup role PM says "Villager," fuckers, so quit it. I'm unsure how possible it is for Scum to be NOT have Daytalk and both fuck up the game-specific name of the Vanilla Townie role.
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:30 am

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In post 594, the worst wrote:
In post 591, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 589, the worst wrote:
In post 588, Random Nurse wrote:
In post 527, JacksonVirgo wrote: I’m personally solving between ducky, zzz and RN and while I believe it’s almost certainly zzz.
RN and ducky occupy a conflicting slot imo as there’s no way they’re both real.
And I know I’m town from your own poe

OK what do you mean by conflicting slot?

By ducky do you mean the Worst?
JV and i have known each other for a few years and they've always called me ducky or duckyboi, so i can confidently say they meant me yeah

What does JV mean by conflicting slot?
that one i don't know. if i had to guess i think they're saying that their poe is [you, zzzx, me] but they think zzzx is scum and one of us is the second.

Yeah I need JV to clarify.
Now.
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:31 am

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OK so I had PM'd bianco and she did in fact confirm that all PTs include the Wolve's PT.
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