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[JacksonVirgo]

Then I guess this is my last effortful post. GG to the wolves, the wolves I caught so early in the game that it's hilarious we still lose

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Ducky
hammer

[Random Nurse]

From the wiki page on "Backup."

"It is possible for a Backup role to exist without the corresponding original role existing, in which case it is impossible for the Backup Role to "turn on"; it will effectively act as a Vanilla role in most respects, but Rolecops will be able to see that it exists.

Backup roles are accepted as Normal on mafiascum.net if the role being backed up is Normal, regardless of whether or not it actually exists in the game."

[JacksonVirgo]

I AM NOT SAYING THEY CAN'T BE BY THEMSELVES
Holy shit

[JacksonVirgo]

That isn't what I'm saying

[Random Nurse]

Wiz, I ask that you please hammer Worst.

[JacksonVirgo]

Are they not hammered? F I wanted that power

UNVOTE:

[JacksonVirgo]

I did my best this entire game only to lose because of two people (of my alignment) who won't budge from their mindsets and fail to see how Wiz is literally going to hard-tunnel me. I don't have the energy to fight that, and ZZZ, as a wolf, clearly is voting me immediately. It's a loss, simple as that. Scum won't kill Wiz, why would they when they get such a free Limlo lim.

And you're refusing to listen to me. And I don't know whether that's cuz I'm being an asshole rn or not but it's literally me in a catch 22. You refusing to hear me out even though you say you TR hurts, like how can you not see how they're tunnelled. Telling them "oh babe please reconsider" is not going to do shit.

[Random Nurse]

I AM NOT SAYING THEY CAN'T BE BY THEMSELVES
Holy shit

That isn't what I'm saying

Well, it absolutely is possible.

There are a lot of devilishly clever and crazy designs possible that have been accepted by the review group.

It it entirely possible that there are actually zero Neighbors. We just don't know for sure, but anything is possible. Is it not Normal to have no Neighbors and have a Backup Neighbor in this group?

Worst's flip would erase all doubt on whether Neighbors exist or not in this game.

[JacksonVirgo]

How can you continue to ignore my point.

[Random Nurse]

I did my best this entire game only to lose because of two people (of my alignment) who won't budge from their mindsets and fail to see how Wiz is literally going to hard-tunnel me. I don't have the energy to fight that, and ZZZ, as a wolf, clearly is voting me immediately. It's a loss, simple as that. Scum won't kill Wiz, why would they when they get such a free Limlo lim.

And you're refusing to listen to me. And I don't know whether that's cuz I'm being an asshole rn or not but it's literally me in a catch 22. You refusing to hear me out even though you say you TR hurts, like how can you not see how they're tunnelled. Telling them "oh babe please reconsider" is not going to do shit.

Well, no, it's not a catch-22 unless you're actually Scum lying with Worst about there being a Neighborhood.

Again, we need to flip Worst in order to get that valuable information.

[Random Nurse]

I also don't understand this anger.

To be honest it just feels out of place.

[JacksonVirgo]

Ducky is wolf. Yes, they're also definitely flipping Neighbour. I know this.
Scum wouldn't hard pair like this and the setup would not be designed over scum making specific fake-claims.
The setup was designed around the TA. Think dude. Please, my wim is hanging on by a thread.
Wiz will vote me.
ZZZ will vote me.

Flipping ducky here gets a wolf in the short-term yes, but it almost guarantees I go out after.
Meaning, me as Town would want to push the other scum. Which isn't happening clearly but that's literally the only way I see Town winning and nobody is listening to me and it's making me apathetic about the outcome of this game rapidly.

I'm not saying to just insta-vote ZZZ. I'm saying use today to solve us both and then flip one today. Because I'm honestly not trying after today. Unless Wiz dies, but that's impossible from my perspective. Why would scum keep the person SRing them alive, and kill the person that is SRing the person they need dead.

[JacksonVirgo]

I also don't understand this anger.

To be honest it just feels out of place.

I'm angry because I see two worlds. One where we flip Ducky and I get chain-

limmed

cuz of wiz's tunnel. The other we focus ZZZ/myself and decide then so we don't have to rely on Wiz's tunnel. Honestly, just doing critical thinking even if Ducky flips a neighbour I will still be focus as the argument of a double scum neighbourhood exists. It's not like them flipping one way or another solves me at all.

It's honestly really fucking frustrating that repeatedly nobody is listening to reason

[Random Nurse]

1) We eliminate Worst today and discern if he is a Neighbor or not.

2) If he's not a Neighbor it means you're dead.

3) If he is a Neighbor then it's now a toss between you or ZZZX.

4) If Wiz is alive in endgame he should be the one to vote last, because he's confTown.

5) If Wiz is in endgame it's up to him to thoroughly analyze both of you two to come to the best conclusion, BUT ALSO remember that in endgame the player you suspect the least is most likely to be Scum.

6) If

*I*

am the one left alive in endgame, having to sort you two... well, may God have mercy on your souls.

[JacksonVirgo]

And you both are feeding into the world where I'm going to be unfairly treated in Limlo. You're not even allowing me to be treated fairly by solving me today.

[JacksonVirgo]

1) We eliminate Worst today and discern if he is a Neighbor or not.

2) If he's not a Neighbor it means you're dead.

3) If he is a Neighbor then it's now a toss between you or ZZZX.

4) If Wiz is alive in endgame he should be the one to vote last, because he's confTown.

5) If Wiz is in endgame it's up to him to thoroughly analyze both of you two to come to the best conclusion, BUT ALSO remember that in endgame the player you suspect the least is most likely to be Scum.

6) If

*I*

am the one left alive in endgame, having to sort you two... well, may God have mercy on your souls.

Why the living fuck would scum sync their claims up, only for one to hard push the other. That's dumb, stop thinking like this.

[JacksonVirgo]

Brother, play for the endgame. Think for the endgame. Please, if you don't I'm honestly done with this

[Random Nurse]

And you both are feeding into the world where I'm going to be unfairly treated in Limlo. You're not even allowing me to be treated fairly by solving me today.

Do you assume I haven't been trying to solve you this entire time?

[JacksonVirgo]

Wiz in endgame = me dead. That's just what's happening, I don't care for your hope that he'll change. He's new to mafia, he doesn't know any of that logic and I doubt he has the toolkit to be able to counteract his personal biases. I'm as good as dead, so this is literally pretty much the final day to me. Do you at least understand why I am like this? I don't want my effort all game to be wasted.

[JacksonVirgo]

And you both are feeding into the world where I'm going to be unfairly treated in Limlo. You're not even allowing me to be treated fairly by solving me today.

Do you assume I haven't been trying to solve you this entire time?

I'm sure you have brother, I'm saying that you won't be here. I know I am Town, and I know that makes ZZZ scum. That means due to the reads of you both. You're dead. Wiz lives. I don't trust Wiz to solve me. So literally the game hangs on today, and you both are rushing the elim.

[Random Nurse]

Well, if Wiz is reading this, I ask that you beware of tunneling, and carefully both of them, but also listen to your gut (I mostly rely on my gut).

If we lose because he tunnels you, oh well. It happens. It's a learning experience. It's not the serious.

[Random Nurse]

Well, if Wiz is reading this, I ask that you beware of tunneling, and carefully analyze both of them, but also listen to your gut (I mostly rely on my gut).

If we lose because he tunnels you, oh well. It happens. It's a learning experience. It's not that serious.

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