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Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 8:38 am

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If Hu Tao was actually cop, it could have hid them in certain scenarios, but yeah.
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Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:13 am

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VC 4.01



Hu Tao (1):
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Not voting (7):
Doctor Drew, geraintm, Abnegation, Hu Tao, Davesaz, Klazam, camelCasedSnivy

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate someone. Day 4 ends in 2023-10-04 03:06:57 -4.00

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Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:19 pm

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I'm not scum. I'm town Miller. I just made a mistake. Let's vote outside me today. I'll try to find last 3 scum
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Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:11 pm

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In post 1002, Hu Tao wrote: I'm not scum. I'm town Miller. I just made a mistake. Let's vote outside me today. I'll try to find last 3 scum
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'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:14 pm

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VOTE: Hu Tao
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
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Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:41 pm

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yeah, i don't believe a word of hu tao's today.

VOTE: hu tao

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Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:54 pm

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assuming we're right, we have two yeets left. that is less than i thought.
last scum is probably in drew/dave.
i do need to take another look at snivy though.
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Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:23 pm

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For Snivy to be scum, they need to have neighborized Hu Tao partner Night 1 to setup for it to look like it.

Not saying it didn’t happen, just would require it.

It kinda just looks like Hu Tao worked Snivy. It was a good work, can’t blame Snivy if Snivy town.

I’m a little salty at myself because I KNEW Nono felt townie on Day 2, and that Hu Tao felt scummy, but it’s okay. It was a hard one to try to turn on Hu Tao anyways, and I still got worked.

It was just very well played by Hu Tao.
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Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:25 pm

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Geraint, if town (i think they are, but I’m questioning everything now), starts to get Inno’s on players if Hu Tao ends up being a roleblocker. If not, still able to be a roleblocker out there, so a little rough

Idk. Im really thinking it’s in the aforementioned 3, though
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Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:27 pm

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Like unless Hu Tao and co knew they were guiltied by role related reasons, like a Track on Nono to Hu Tao, it doesn’t make sense for Geraint to really bus Kitty to save Hu Tao for the gambit, so Geraint probably gets to win if they’re scum.
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Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:51 pm

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hu tao never would have claimed cop in my PT if shes miller lmao

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Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:53 pm

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why would anyone claim cop as miller anyway?
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Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:54 pm

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In post 1007, Flavor Leaf wrote: For Snivy to be scum, they need to have neighborized Hu Tao partner Night 1 to setup for it to look like it.

Not saying it didn’t happen, just would require it.

It kinda just looks like Hu Tao worked Snivy. It was a good work, can’t blame Snivy if Snivy town.

I’m a little salty at myself because I KNEW Nono felt townie on Day 2, and that Hu Tao felt scummy, but it’s okay. It was a hard one to try to turn on Hu Tao anyways, and I still got worked.

It was just very well played by Hu Tao.
good point about the neighbourize, i missed that.
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Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:12 pm

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UNVOTE: Hu Tao

Wait for Geraint target claim.

Not doing another not claiming and then having PR dead like with Ame. If Ame claimed their target, we would have a confirmed inno. It's probably just Geraint, but yeah.

It's also possible Ame targeted Hu Tao, and then scum no killed, but idk.

Would have been nice to have it said.
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Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:18 pm

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ccs - When exactly did Hu claim cop, and FL claim VT in the neighbor thread - was it before or after daystart? (Trying to figure out FL's alignment)
In post 987, camelCasedSnivy wrote: oh and gera can confirm
Does this mean you neighborized Gera on night 3?

I'm feeling uber paranoid right now, and im not ready for day to end, because i want to get more discussion going on the last scum. Consider me the hammering vote here, but im holding off on that.

writing this down for myself

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- geraintm - Town (Loud Tracker)
- Klazam - Town (Miller)
- camelCasedSnivy - Town (Neighborizer)

- Abnegation - VT (Got tracked by Gera N2, no result)

- Flavor Leaf - VT
- Doctor Drew (aspectenicor) VT

- davesaz - Has not claimed or posted

- Hu Tao - Scum

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Im going to look at kitty and hu tao together in iso, see if i can spot anything off.

Who did Gera track N3? Im guessing CCS
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Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:20 pm

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People who know normals - what is the scope of this power that Kitty had - "You are informed that __________________________________."
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Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:24 pm

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gera found that i didn't go anywhere, not "no result." "no result" is for a failed action and is distinct from the result you get when your target doesn't take an action.
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Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:25 pm

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In post 1014, Klazam wrote: ccs - When exactly did Hu claim cop, and FL claim VT in the neighbor thread - was it before or after daystart? (Trying to figure out FL's alignment)
In post 987, camelCasedSnivy wrote: oh and gera can confirm
Does this mean you neighborized Gera on night 3?

I'm feeling uber paranoid right now, and im not ready for day to end, because i want to get more discussion going on the last scum. Consider me the hammering vote here, but im holding off on that.

writing this down for myself

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- geraintm - Town (Loud Tracker)
- Klazam - Town (Miller)
- camelCasedSnivy - Town (Neighborizer)

- Abnegation - VT (Got tracked by Gera N2, no result)

- Flavor Leaf - VT
- Doctor Drew (aspectenicor) VT

- davesaz - Has not claimed or posted

- Hu Tao - Scum

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Im going to look at kitty and hu tao together in iso, see if i can spot anything off.

Who did Gera track N3? Im guessing CCS
Hu Tao claimed start of day 2

Fl claimed start of day 3
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Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:26 pm

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In post 1013, Flavor Leaf wrote: UNVOTE: Hu Tao

Wait for Geraint target claim.

Not doing another not claiming and then having PR dead like with Ame. If Ame claimed their target, we would have a confirmed inno. It's probably just Geraint, but yeah.

It's also possible Ame targeted Hu Tao, and then scum no killed, but idk.

Would have been nice to have it said.
gera could claim in our PT too
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Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:27 pm

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In post 1015, Klazam wrote: People who know normals - what is the scope of this power that Kitty had - "You are informed that __________________________________."
it's most likely information about a specific player's role, or about a role or type of role that exists in the setup.
informed wiki page might be helpful.
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Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:28 pm

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In post 1018, camelCasedSnivy wrote:
In post 1013, Flavor Leaf wrote: UNVOTE: Hu Tao

Wait for Geraint target claim.

Not doing another not claiming and then having PR dead like with Ame. If Ame claimed their target, we would have a confirmed inno. It's probably just Geraint, but yeah.

It's also possible Ame targeted Hu Tao, and then scum no killed, but idk.

Would have been nice to have it said.
gera could claim in our PT too
yes, but if one of you or gera are scum, and kill me, it's not confirmable.
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Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:28 pm

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In post 1019, Abnegation wrote:
In post 1015, Klazam wrote: People who know normals - what is the scope of this power that Kitty had - "You are informed that __________________________________."
it's most likely information about a specific player's role, or about a role or type of role that exists in the setup.
informed wiki page might be helpful.
to be clear, i'm not implying that the first is likelier than the second here.
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Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:28 pm

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i don't see any reason for gera not to claim publicly?
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Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:31 pm

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could have been informed of a Cop in the game.

Doctor, Cop, Tracker, Miller, Neighborizer PR's in this game, interesting.
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Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Wed Sep 20, 2023 4:32 pm

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In post 1022, Abnegation wrote: i don't see any reason for gera not to claim publicly?
He should claim publicy 100%.

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