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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:43 am

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In post 323, Andante wrote:
In post 193, Charles510 wrote: Whoa, hold up, wait. Let me read and come up with some things.
that doesn't come from new scum??

In post 324, Andante wrote:
In post 197, Charles510 wrote:
In post 195, Black wrote: UNVOTE:

I kind of expected a different response from Charles here if he's a new player that rolled scum. I feel like it's more likely he would ask for advice in the scum PT rather than quickly posting that he'll read and "come up with some stuff"
Thank you for that. I'm pretty new to mafia and don't know what to say.
and that too??
I agree about not seeing why those posts would be considered townie
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:49 am

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In post 358, AnimatedWiz wrote: That’s rather possible, but I think Shrek is the most suspicious out of that group. Their only “real” posts ( and ) seem to have analysis, but ultimately both just say certain people
could
be town and
in doing so try to take heat off certain people (me, Andante, Charles, and Bob).
It comes off as rather weak and wishy-washy, even in my opinion.

VOTE: Shrek
Something about the bolded part feels weird to me and I’m not sure what it is. The quick unvote after that where Wiz doesn’t even consider that Shrek could’ve been scum who popped up again because they knew they were about to get prodded also feels wrong.
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:53 am

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VC 1.12
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(4): Charles510, Gumiguy, BlackStar, Black
BlackStar
(3): Dannflor, Hu Tao, pisskop
Shrek
(1): bob3141
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(1): Afrayed Knott
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(1): Shrek
brightbluebug
(1): Andante

Not Voting
(2): brightbluebug, AnimatedWiz

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to scuttle a player. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-09-28 06:30:00).

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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:54 am

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In post 371, Charles510 wrote: Good morning, Annie! Do you still think I am scum? Why/why not?
In post 372, AnimatedWiz wrote: I still kind of do, mostly based on the previous sheeping and a significant amount of your posts just being you responding quickly to people who ask you questions. The read has softened a bit over time (since others have brought up reasonable arguments about it and your reactions haven’t been as suspicious now), but it’s not yet to a nullread.
Who, if anyone else, are you also reading as scummy? What is the most probable scum team?
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:08 am

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In post 365, AnimatedWiz wrote: Ah, well, there goes my argument.

UNVOTE: Shrek
What did you mean by this? And why did you unvote?
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:14 am

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Good morning, Black. Do you think I am scum?
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:16 am

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Probably not. Have you not been reading anything I've been posting?
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:16 am

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Good morning Blackstar too. same question. Why do people still think I am scummy? I am town.
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:17 am

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Sorry, I have not had time to read all 16 pages. Still trying to catch up.
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:18 am

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Why are you asking questions and being present when you still have many pages to read? Just curious
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:19 am

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In post 355, Black wrote:
In post 352, Dannflor wrote:
In post 331, Black wrote:
In post 323, Andante wrote:
In post 193, Charles510 wrote: Whoa, hold up, wait. Let me read and come up with some things.
that doesn't come from new scum??
In post 324, Andante wrote:
In post 197, Charles510 wrote:
In post 195, Black wrote: UNVOTE:

I kind of expected a different response from Charles here if he's a new player that rolled scum. I feel like it's more likely he would ask for advice in the scum PT rather than quickly posting that he'll read and "come up with some stuff"
Thank you for that. I'm pretty new to mafia and don't know what to say.
and that too??
I already explained this but I think newscum is more likely to go to the PT for advice here instead of frantically posting that they'll find something of substance after a couple of votes pile onto them

And yeah I don't think scum would thank me for townreading them lol
I’m not sure I agree with scum not thanking you and I’m not sure I follow your reasoning

I think that post is much more likely to come from town. It makes sense for a townie to openly feel relieved after one person townreads them following a slew of scumreads
Ok, I read this. Thank you for not scum reading me. Who do you think is the scum team?
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:21 am

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In post 384, Black wrote: Why are you asking questions and being present when you still have many pages to read? Just curious
I'm just trying to figure out who I think is scummy. Please be patient with me.
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:23 am

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In post 386, Charles510 wrote:
In post 384, Black wrote: Why are you asking questions and being present when you still have many pages to read? Just curious
I'm just trying to figure out who I think is scummy. Please be patient with me.
I'm very patient. Do you think asking people who they think are scummy is a better way to find scum than reading and trying to find things yourself?
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:26 am

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I think BlackStar’s wagon composition makes him a little suspect, *especially* if you think Animated is also scum

It’s really only a super strong indicator from my perspective because I know I’m town

But Hu Tao I’m pretty sure town slipped not knowing who the IC was

And pisskop is obviously town

Also like look at what Animated Wiz is doing

He genuinely doesn’t seem to know what to do with his vote

Why wouldn’t he just vote BlackStar if that was a town counterwagon and Animated was scum?

Being useless with your vote while you are the top wagon is like the antithesis of the survivalism i would expect
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:27 am

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In post 387, Black wrote:
In post 386, Charles510 wrote:
In post 384, Black wrote: Why are you asking questions and being present when you still have many pages to read? Just curious
I'm just trying to figure out who I think is scummy. Please be patient with me.
I'm very patient. Do you think asking people who they think are scummy is a better way to find scum than reading and trying to find things yourself?
In a word, yes.

It is easier for me to have a conversatiion in the moment than to wade through 16 pages of stuff. I am more interested in what people think *right now* than what they might have been thinking in the past.
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:35 am

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In post 384, Black wrote: Why are you asking questions and being present when you still have many pages to read? Just curious
Do you think it's more likely to be scum indicative or town indicative for someone to try to interact in live time before catching up on many pages?
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:36 am

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In post 389, Charles510 wrote:
In post 387, Black wrote:
In post 386, Charles510 wrote:
In post 384, Black wrote: Why are you asking questions and being present when you still have many pages to read? Just curious
I'm just trying to figure out who I think is scummy. Please be patient with me.
I'm very patient. Do you think asking people who they think are scummy is a better way to find scum than reading and trying to find things yourself?
In a word, yes.

It is easier for me to have a conversatiion in the moment than to wade through 16 pages of stuff. I am more interested in what people think *right now* than what they might have been thinking in the past.
I honestly agree with this and this feels like such a townie mindset, with the focus on right now versus past thoughts
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:39 am

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I'm not sure I like how Black has been interacting with Charles here, doesn't feel like it's this good faith/honest way of interacting?? idk how to explain it, I'm curious if anyone else feels the same way, it feels like Black is trying to paint something charles says in a negative way? to get someone else to jump on it??

I'm bad at explaining stuff that I'm like "feels sus" but literally none of this feels like "I'm trying to sort Charles" or "What is your stance on the game charles?"
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:41 am

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UNVOTE:
just so no hammer happens while I'm at work

cause I want to sort people more than I have before we lim anyone, but consider my vote on bug for now, bug/Afrayed are looking like a good option, I need to read Afrayed more, I need to get Black/BlackStar sorted in my head, neither really are making me tr them and obviously if it's bug and Afrayed, it can't be both them (I also don't think it's both them based on an interaction they had)
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:47 am

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In post 379, Black wrote:
In post 365, AnimatedWiz wrote: Ah, well, there goes my argument.

UNVOTE: Shrek
What did you mean by this? And why did you unvote?

Well, I figured that Shrek being so quiet meant they were actively trying to lurk and go under the radar, but since they then replaced right after it became clear to me that it was much more likely that they legitimately didn’t have time for the game instead.
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:53 am

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In post 378, Charles510 wrote: Who, if anyone else, are you also reading as scummy? What is the most probable scum team?

My current best scumreads are on Bug and Gumi since they’ve been so quiet. Blackstar makes me feel suspicious since they seem to be really keen to move the main wagon onto me, but I’m still unsure about whether that’s just plain desperation or an actual scumread on me.

I’m more confident in my townreads, especially Black, Hu Tao, and Dann. They seem to have a lot of logical thoughts and communicate them really well, which I feel would be hard for scum to do so consistently.
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:55 am

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an announcementMerlyn replaces Shrek.
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:01 am

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will ctach up tommorrwo
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:05 am

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In post 390, Andante wrote:
In post 384, Black wrote: Why are you asking questions and being present when you still have many pages to read? Just curious
Do you think it's more likely to be scum indicative or town indicative for someone to try to interact in live time before catching up on many pages?
Neither, I think it's a playstyle thing. But I wanted to hear what Charles thinks
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:07 am

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