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Post Post #1050 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:06 pm

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camelCasedSnivy has been eliminated Night 4!

He was a Neighborizer!


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Post Post #1051 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:27 pm

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Alright, Drew. Let's get up on the stage.
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Post Post #1052 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:32 pm

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Nono getting roleblocked Night 2, and Geraint tracking Abnegation soft clears Abnegation. They can only be scum if Multitasking Ninja Roleblocker exactly.

Drew has to be Multitasking Roleblocker who didn't act Night 3 (or Ninja), but I think there's evidence out there to clear almost every slot except Drew on play.
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Post Post #1053 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:37 pm

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I can tinfoil everyone, like Geraint Gambit, Ninja Abneg, daves and klazam have some associatives that look anti partner from the players, but really, the best solution that feels like it fits is Doctor Drew.
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Post Post #1054 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:44 pm

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In post 224, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 222, camelCasedSnivy wrote: ugh do yall really trust klazam

dont see a reason we should go leaf over klazam if youre that willing to wagon a townie
Why exactly do you think Leaf is townie?
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In post 222, camelCasedSnivy wrote: ugh do yall really trust klazam

dont see a reason we should go leaf over klazam if youre that willing to wagon a townie
How do you know they are town?
this seems like one of the best examples of Drew and Hu Tao playing on the same page. Snivy mentioned a town read on me, and both Drew and Hu tao immediately tried to question it.
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In post 39, aspectenicor wrote: from reading the current convo
i agree with hu tao
abt how abnegation might have said that to appear townie and i dont have much reason to assume otherwise so

VOTE: Abnegation
i just read this early post by aspectenicor (who drew replaced)

newbscum post?

This was Snivy's last post about Drew slot.
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Post Post #1055 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:50 pm

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Alternatively,

viewtopic.php?p=13703712#p13703712

^this was KittyMo's entrance into a game where they were scum earlier this year.

viewtopic.php?p=13892993#p13892993

^This was their entrance into this game. Pretty similar.

In the first game, they voted their scum partner, and here they voted Geraint.

In the neighborhood last night, Snivy was pretty down to be on the same page, so it's possible Geraint saw and wanted to take that out. Bussing that way from Geraint's side is just weird, though, and for them to be scum, it requires them to be Multitasking Roleblocker Loud (Insert Role Here), where Loud only effects the 2nd role.

I'm getting super big paranoia on Geraint, but logically and gut I'm leaning Drew.

Niche mech reasons also go Drew.
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Post Post #1056 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:51 pm

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Why do you want me to 'get up on stage' if you are just gonna throw out false accusations of me. You even are explaining away the track on me lol.

The simplest solution is the correct solution, I am just VT.

Pre Edit: Lol, oh I see the answer is Enchant is just scum....I will let you guess which one of us is Enchant here
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Post Post #1057 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:52 pm

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Davesaz ISO looks anti partnery, and they kind of challenge Hu Tao casually multiple times, which is really weird scum theatre, and I think it's just not, and Hu Tao trying to control narrative.

Klazam analysis yesterday I looked into overnight, and I agreed with a lot of it. I also don't believe it makes too much sense to claim Miller if they know a Cop is going to go down that day phase. Good miller claim if scum, but Idk if I see it.
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Post Post #1058 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:53 pm

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In post 1056, Doctor Drew wrote: Why do you want me to 'get up on stage' if you are just gonna throw out false accusations of me. You even are explaining away the track on me lol.

The simplest solution is the correct solution, I am just VT.

Pre Edit: Lol, oh I see the answer is Enchant is just scum....I will let you guess which one of us is Enchant here
then who is it? i'm town.
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Post Post #1059 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:53 pm

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why does it have to be me or you here for you?
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Post Post #1060 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:58 pm

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In post 1059, Flavor Leaf wrote: why does it have to be me or you here for you?
It doesn't have to be, but then why does it have to be me.

My first instinct just says your actions here are not in good faith.
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Post Post #1061 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 10:01 pm

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In post 1060, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 1059, Flavor Leaf wrote: why does it have to be me or you here for you?
It doesn't have to be, but then why does it have to be me.

My first instinct just says your actions here are not in good faith.
I could really give you a plethora of reasons, but i wanna hear your thoughts on the other players.
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Post Post #1062 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 10:01 pm

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talk to me about dave and klazam
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Post Post #1063 (ISO) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:55 pm

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People's paranoia about me involves me getting one of my partners killed day 2, and then kynother partner getting horribly caught up in a game of who's the cop and leave me to win this all by myself.

You are all being a little bit much if you thinknthat happened
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Post Post #1064 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 2:36 am

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In post 1063, geraintm wrote: People's paranoia about me involves me getting one of my partners killed day 2, and then kynother partner getting horribly caught up in a game of who's the cop and leave me to win this all by myself.

You are all being a little bit much if you thinknthat happened
Agreed.

Any results to speak of?
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Post Post #1065 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 2:38 am

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In post 1056, Doctor Drew wrote: Why do you want me to 'get up on stage' if you are just gonna throw out false accusations of me. You even are explaining away the track on me lol.

The simplest solution is the correct solution, I am just VT.

Pre Edit: Lol, oh I see the answer is Enchant is just scum....I will let you guess which one of us is Enchant here
Explain “enchant is scum”
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Post Post #1066 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 2:43 am

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Okay- if I’m right we have two elims remaining, including a no-elim day to bring it to 3 players. We have some room to work.

My pool of potential scum is, in order from least likely to most likely, Abnegation -> Drew -> Flavor

Flavor I’m honestly being Uber paranoid about. I find myself agreeing too easily with
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Post Post #1067 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 2:45 am

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What are you thinking, Dave and Gera?
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Post Post #1068 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 2:53 am

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In post 1052, Flavor Leaf wrote: Nono getting roleblocked Night 2, and Geraint tracking Abnegation soft clears Abnegation. They can only be scum if Multitasking Ninja Roleblocker exactly.

Drew has to be Multitasking Roleblocker who didn't act Night 3 (or Ninja), but I think there's evidence out there to clear almost every slot except Drew on play.
Abnegation being a multitasking ninja roleblocker seems ridiculously unlikely- if there was a ninja, that’s who I would want to carry out the kill on N1, and gera caught kitty on that night. There’s also the hard push on abnegation from Hu Tao regarding multitasking. I’d think that if they were doing that as a way to clear abnegation, Hu probably could have easily done it in a different way to make Abnegation look better.
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Post Post #1069 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:04 am

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In post 1064, Klazam wrote:
In post 1063, geraintm wrote: People's paranoia about me involves me getting one of my partners killed day 2, and then kynother partner getting horribly caught up in a game of who's the cop and leave me to win this all by myself.

You are all being a little bit much if you thinknthat happened
Agreed.

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Post Post #1070 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:25 am

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In post 1064, Klazam wrote:
In post 1063, geraintm wrote: People's paranoia about me involves me getting one of my partners killed day 2, and then kynother partner getting horribly caught up in a game of who's the cop and leave me to win this all by myself.

You are all being a little bit much if you thinknthat happened
Agreed.

Any results to speak of?
Agreed while having the paranoia. I would be okay letting Geraint win in the situation it happened imo.

It’s so marginal, my Geraint push is really more of a Drew push
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Post Post #1071 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:26 am

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In post 1066, Klazam wrote: Okay- if I’m right we have two elims remaining, including a no-elim day to bring it to 3 players. We have some room to work.

My pool of potential scum is, in order from least likely to most likely, Abnegation -> Drew -> Flavor

Flavor I’m honestly being Uber paranoid about. I find myself agreeing too easily with

Abnegation is mostly cleared based on getting tracked nowhere the night Nono got roleblocked
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Post Post #1072 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:27 am

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In post 1068, Klazam wrote:
In post 1052, Flavor Leaf wrote: Nono getting roleblocked Night 2, and Geraint tracking Abnegation soft clears Abnegation. They can only be scum if Multitasking Ninja Roleblocker exactly.

Drew has to be Multitasking Roleblocker who didn't act Night 3 (or Ninja), but I think there's evidence out there to clear almost every slot except Drew on play.
Abnegation being a multitasking ninja roleblocker seems ridiculously unlikely- if there was a ninja, that’s who I would want to carry out the kill on N1, and gera caught kitty on that night. There’s also the hard push on abnegation from Hu Tao regarding multitasking. I’d think that if they were doing that as a way to clear abnegation, Hu probably could have easily done it in a different way to make Abnegation look better.

I agree. Drew should probs be first. I think this game just ends with Drew.
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Post Post #1073 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:45 am

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In post 1065, Klazam wrote:
In post 1056, Doctor Drew wrote: Why do you want me to 'get up on stage' if you are just gonna throw out false accusations of me. You even are explaining away the track on me lol.

The simplest solution is the correct solution, I am just VT.

Pre Edit: Lol, oh I see the answer is Enchant is just scum....I will let you guess which one of us is Enchant here
Explain “enchant is scum”
Call back to a couple games FL and I played with Enchant where Enchant was scum. Kinda just means that sometimes the obvious solution is the correct solution, and to not overthink it.

So in this situation, I am saying my first instinct in regards to FL seems correct, he is just scum here.
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Post Post #1074 (ISO) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 12:25 pm

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You’re the obvious solution here, I’m the ‘FL could be manipulating’ solution.

Something’s that is outing you is you’re calling me scum, without really giving any reasons, and you’re also not giving any explanation on your other reads on the slots, such as Dave, Abnegation, and Klazam.

This feels like you have to watch how you talk about them because after I’m misfaded, you still need to get the two of them, which really joust doesn’t happen easily.

I’ve gone on a limb, and Abnegation and Geraint can confirm this, that I believe both Klazam and Davesaz to be town, and I explained in solid detail in the neighborhood overnight why.

I also spent extra time looking into any possibility for every slot to possibly be scum, including looking into Abnegation and Geraint and with both of them, I showed why them being scum here would be incredibly small margins and insane tinfoil, and that it just seems likely that they are essentially conf town because of it.

I have paragraphs and paragraphs of detail I can go over that I did last night to explain my reads on every single slot, and all you push is “FL just scum”

I also called out Hu Tao as scum and Nono as town hard Day 2 twilight, and then followed the Hu Tao guilty, because like all of us, I then thought Hu Tao was telling the truth because it was played very well.

So if you’re pushing that the obvious scum would be me, show you’re work. Do this for real.

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