Datisi's University [game over!]

[WhemeStar]

Why can’t I go first

[NorwegianboyEE]

So i don’t claim first?

[KatyKimFanClub]

Like I feel like 3p with wincon being they have to get killed would message mafia or who they think would be mafia right

Maybe if the 3p lies to the mafia team, but mafia definitely should keep the 3p alive because they can force a mislim on the 3p if the 3p outs to mafia.

[KatyKimFanClub]

Why can’t I go first

You can go first if you want, especially since furtive is implying that you’re VT

[KatyKimFanClub]

I can make an order. Also willing to defer to RCE's order.
Going in some approximate order that isn't scumminess but correlated with it:

Norwe
Cephrir
osuka
WhemeStar
Dusa
Titus
Ranger
Alisae

Claimed: RCE, KKFC, furtive

New Order if we choose to go with it:
Wheme
Titus
Norwe
Cephrir
Osuka
Dusa
Alisae

[Alisae]

if we're ready to start
- no votes during massclaim if you're voting unvote
- claim in order
- claim everything
- After the massclaim is over, wait and think it over before votes come out. It's common knowledge that massclaim once you have a big lead will break large theme games. There are likely elements of this that just become a logic puzzle and the idea is to solve as much as we can before we go into voting.

[Ranger]

Bookmarking Page 182, as there’s content there I need to engage when not mobile.

[Ranger]

Well we have no way to actually prove if Ranger is lying right? We can't really know for sure what Enchant told Ranger.
idunno what to make of this LOL.

Fair. However, there’s evidence I’m truthful.

Enchant's message included his stance on 3ps.
His message would be difficult to fabricate.
The formatting and contents as well as perspective were definitely his.
E.g., while I can

theorize

why he included a "say hi to Norwee" at the end, I don’t actually

know

why he did.

We have evidence from his flip. He mentioned not targeting N1 because he wasn’t in the game N1. He publicly claimed to have targeted Aristeia N2, the night she died; this can be seen in his D3 opening posts
His flip mentions redacted information, meaning as 3p he was informed of

something

; I've shared what the info allegedly is.
His D4 play was in support of me.
He also didn’t care if I was town or scum. He told me he'd work with me regardless of alignment, although he stated strong belief in me being town.

His inthread play supports my claims, his flip supports my claims, and the speed at which I shared his message also supports my claims, as it indicates I didn’t have much time to have possibly fabricated things.

On top of that, I’m investigated as not being able to kill, so I can’t be killing scum or 3p. PoE, I’m town, and as town, I’ve no reason to lie anymore.

I left out a few trivial details, sharing the relevant information; I’m not lying.

[Ranger]

Bookmarking Page 182, as there’s content there I need to engage when not mobile.

For clarity, this also extends to pages after 182.

Any content I can’t engage on mobile (which is all Titus-related), I’m temporarily skipping.

[Cephrir]

His information is the scum have a PR costing 10SPR to learn the 3p wincon. He believed they already had done it, looking for slots trying to get nightkilled.

[*]you know that

[REDACTED]

[*]you know that

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[Cephrir]

Well we have no way to actually prove if Ranger is lying right? We can't really know for sure what Enchant told Ranger.
idunno what to make of this LOL.

Fair. However, there’s evidence I’m truthful.

Enchant's message included his stance on 3ps.
His message would be difficult to fabricate.

why lol

The formatting and contents as well as perspective were definitely his.

formatting isn't compelling if we can't see it

E.g., while I can

theorize

why he included a "say hi to Norwee" at the end, I don’t actually

know

why he did.

does norwe? because if not this sounds made up

We have evidence from his flip. He mentioned not targeting N1 because he wasn’t in the game N1. He publicly claimed to have targeted Aristeia N2, the night she died; this can be seen in his D3 opening posts

this doesn't appear to provide any support to your point and just makes me think you wanted this post to be long to look authoritative lmao

the speed at which I shared his message also supports my claims, as it indicates I didn’t have much time to have possibly fabricated things.

if you killed him you'd have had plenty of time????

On top of that, I’m investigated as not being able to kill, so I can’t be killing scum or 3p.

only if you assume rce is truthful... obviously

[Dusa]

KKFC claim order is good enough for government work let's rollout autobots

[Dusa]

WhemeStar fullclaim including study behavior and whether you got mailperson messages and such

[Ranger]

formatting isn't compelling if we can't see it

Fortunately, as I'm in possession of the message, I can reparaphrase it however many times required to convey the formatting.

if you killed him you'd have had plenty of time????

How would I know Enchant was going to flip 3p with 2x messenger, ascetic, redacted information, etc., unless Enchant had messaged me previously?

Yes, if he messaged me I'd have that info.
Yes, if I killed him I'd have time to prepare.
How would I have the time to prepare for his

exact flip

unless he messaged me?

I provided enough details in a short enough timespan where his flip couldn’t have been something I had zero information about. I had to know

some

things in advance for my response time.

Where did I get the information?

only if you assume rce is truthful... obviously

Fortunately, there’s a solution for that issue.

Wouldn’t be the first time I yeeted a slot who wasted an investigation on me.

I believe him town by play overall; that could change any moment.

[KatyKimFanClub]

Why is Cephrir so skeptical of Ranger interactions with Enchant?

[KatyKimFanClub]

I guess it's good to be skeptical.

[Dusa]

Did Cephrir replace one of the townies or one of the scums? It seems like every rep has been obvtown so far lol with the stipulation enchant's role was to larp town

[Dusa]

Oh it was drew. Idk what drew was

[Titus]

Seems like Wheme is afk. I expect to start a trial Thursday. RCE do you want me to claim first or last?

[Alisae]

If you wanna claim before Wheme that's fine

[Cephrir]

Why is Cephrir so skeptical of Ranger interactions with Enchant?

I guess I'm going to have to read stuff if I want to find out why we need to kill furtive so bad, but if we're going to do it regardless of my opinion then I guess I don't need to bother

Furtiveglance cannot be in elo. No one townreads them. There's no downside mechanically to eliminating furtive here.

It is my job as a game nonreader to be dubious of the accepted truths

[Dusa]

Claim Titus

[Titus]

I wish we didn't have to massclaim, but here it is. I'll lay out my strategy as well as that should help a lot come into focus.

I am a universal back up. Flavor: Psychology Freshman. Ability: Can i try? Cost is variable.

I can use the ability of any dead town player at double the cost in their PM. I have done 25 SPR 75% studying. I have 100 SPR at the moment. I did studying this way to slowly gather strength for later on. I wanted to study a lot early in case VTs or useless PRs were eliminated early, even if it sacrificed using OP abilities later on. SPR to scum are assigned via an average. Getting a lot of SPRs early would hand scum kills with nothing to show.

Andres role is straight up out of reach without handing scum a kill (it would cost 300 SPR. I don't know if RCE's would be. Knowing his SPR would be useful to me, but only me, at this point so if he refuses to claim so be it. The only reason I say RCE's is useful is that I suspect he would be the next killed. I'd like to have just enough SPR to use his ability but limit extra kills going to scum. If it's more than 150 just say no. I have enough SPR to pick an action.

If we waited to have massclaim until one scum alive, I could have sprung that on them then. Yet, that's not possible given the situation and the nature at large.

I have zero concern over eliminating scummy PR "claims" because I could inherit them if honest. Early users tend to be lower SPR cost, which means I could scoop up their ability late.

So that means I get the luxury of hard pressing bullshit claims (or claims that look to be bullshit, sorry GL).

[Ranger]

I have done 25 SPR 75% studying. I have 100 SPR at the moment.

SPR you say...

I believe that.

[Ranger]

I have done 25 SPR 75% studying. I have 100 SPR at the moment. Getting a lot of SPRs early would hand scum kills with nothing to show.

Andres role is straight up out of reach without handing scum a kill (it would cost 300 SPR. I don't know if RCE's would be. Knowing his SPR would be useful to me, but only me, at this point so if he refuses to claim so be it. The only reason I say RCE's is useful is that I suspect he would be the next killed. I'd like to have just enough SPR to use his ability but limit extra kills going to scum. If it's more than 150 just say no. I have enough SPR to pick an action

Early users tend to be lower SPR cost, which means I could scoop up their ability late.

public info about the setup:

1. the basics:

~ using town power roles requires

TPR points

. using scum power roles requires

SPR points

.