DEFCON 6.0 - GAME OVER!

[marcistar]

?? Np??

Im so confused why youre so sat back, i remember you liked to talk more and sus the shit out of me and im converned why i dont see any of that here

[Cephrir]

Why can't the primary implication of that post be that andante is scum with you rather than what you said

Because within that post is the implication that Andante nuked Gamma because she was unlikely to nuke back (or at least only send a low probability nuke back) rather than because she's town.

why can't we have both?

[Cephrir]

notice how andante avoided nuking her purported strong scum read in UNOwen and instead opted for Gamma who has already used at least one nuke this phase

The implication here is that Andante didn't nuke me because she's afraid I would have just nuked her back - which might seem reasonable since I had said that I did have suspicion. But obviously that makes no sense if Chell thinks I'm scum, in which case the reason Andante scum wouldn't nuke me is because I'm her buddy!

Yes if you make up a motivation that her post doesn't say then another possible motivation will not fit with it

I think I've seen enough

Say it straight, do you think they’re scum?
Or do you think their reasoning is bad?
Or both.

i think they're scum and if they survive this nuke i am planning to threaten them with mine to get them to abort

[Cephrir]

Hmm idk about norwee i think i need more time there first.

Anyways its confirmed i know the scumteam (im a very good player) its doctor, bell, gob, ircher, t3 and penguin

Im so op right guys?

Give me a reason why I should retract my nuke on you again?

is the implication of this post that suspecting you is a reason you are not interested in retracting it?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I wasn't even all that frustrated in the first place. Why are you assuming how i feel and then making a scumread out of it?

Making judgements on whether the tone of the post is faked or not is part of the game.
But I wasn't meaning to say you were secretly more frustrated, I mean that your posts looked like they were trying to show a frustration with Chell that wasn't actually there.

Well i just told you i had no particular frustration with Chell so that looked like a made up argument to me.

[Cephrir]

marcistar is town

[Cephrir]

this game is way easier if i just let myself believe stuff

[T3]

Hmm idk about norwee i think i need more time there first.

Anyways its confirmed i know the scumteam (im a very good player) its doctor, bell, gob, ircher, t3 and penguin

Im so op right guys?

Give me a reason why I should retract my nuke on you again?

is the implication of this post that suspecting you is a reason you are not interested in retracting it?

No - if Marci is town I can see her genuinely scumreading me. The other stuff in her post is scummy though.

[Cephrir]

ok good

[Cephrir]

anyway i think she sounds very at ease and i think that's difficult for her as scum

[T3]

It seems like Marci is trying really really hard to make it seem like she feels absolutely no pressure whatsoever, and give the impression that she's town who is cool as a cucumber in the face of multiple nukes and scumreads. Her enthusiasm and shitposting feel super forced.

[PenguinPower]

hi pp

Too late. marcistar wins.

[PenguinPower]

marcistargazer?

Hmmmm…..

[Cephrir]

It seems like Marci is trying really really hard to make it seem like she feels absolutely no pressure whatsoever, and give the impression that she's town who is cool as a cucumber in the face of multiple nukes and scumreads. Her enthusiasm and shitposting feel super forced.

i guess your loathing of occam's razor is at least, consistent

[NorwegianboyEE]

It seems like Marci is trying really really hard to make it seem like she feels absolutely no pressure whatsoever, and give the impression that she's town who is cool as a cucumber in the face of multiple nukes and scumreads. Her enthusiasm and shitposting feel super forced.

I mean Marci has fooled me before so it wouldn't be first time, but i dunno what you would find so convincingly scummy about Marci's play this game.

[Bell]

Marci, you suck.

Only in the past

Now i am a new person ready to spread my wings and become the beat mafia hunter ever

I will give you one chance to be the best mafia hunter ever.

You need to change your read to Bell town right now, or you shall be dethroned before you’ve even ascended.
I have a town role pm.

Prove it by nuking ur mafia teammate doctor

Fallen before you’ve even ascended.
But yes, I do very much want to hit the scum.

[UNOwen]

Why can't the primary implication of that post be that andante is scum with you rather than what you said

Because within that post is the implication that Andante nuked Gamma because she was unlikely to nuke back (or at least only send a low probability nuke back) rather than because she's town.

why can't we have both?

I think the emphasis would be different if so. Like if Chell wants to say "look Andante is dodging nuking her scum buddy" then the stuff about Gamma not using her nuke yet is beside the point. And yes it could be that Chell is making a general call out of Andante being sus in whatever scenario but that doesn't track with her claimed confidence that I'm scum.

To me it reads like a call out for me specifically to notice that Andante had avoided nuking me because she was worried I'd strike back - and that I would then reach the conclusion Andante is scum and I should nuke her. Maybe that's just my perspective but that was the second instance of Chell backing up a suspicion I'd stated so taken together it looks manipulative.

[Cephrir]

u cant be the center of the universe because i am the center of the universe

[UNOwen]

sorry but you should have been taught in school that everything revolves around me

[Cephrir]

i guess you would rather believe chell is a 12D chess player than consider for a moment that she could be town.

i think that is because you're scum

next

[Bell]

anyway i think she sounds very at ease and i think that's difficult for her as scum

I’ve been told this before but I recall this not being as easy a call as people have made it out to be.

[Bell]

Also Marci is aware of it and will compensate accordingly.

[Gamma Emerald]

the only winning move is not to play...

that made me laugh

War Games is a good movie

[UNOwen]

i guess you would rather believe chell is a 12D chess player than consider for a moment that she could be town.

i think that is because you're scum

next

I've certainly considered that she could be town

Then I pressed the big "OBLITERATE" button anyway

[Cephrir]

anyway i think she sounds very at ease and i think that's difficult for her as scum

I’ve been told this before but I recall this not being as easy a call as people have made it out to be.

ya ive probably messed it up before but it feels good enough for right now