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Post Post #1725 (ISO) » Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:13 pm

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In post 1723, Klick wrote: What is the difference between this and standard Ceph seeming annoyed by the gamestate generally
Ceph is very capable of getting annoyed with games as town
What's different here
If you don’t see it I don’t know how to make you see it
But like, I think every time I have played against scum!Cephrir since 2021 I have picked up on something that tipped me off. So I feel reasonably confident in the scumflip happening here.
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Post Post #1726 (ISO) » Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:18 pm

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Another thing about Chell town is that they haven’t been phased by the flips any.

No awkward comments. No seeming need to process and going quiet or at least seeming any different.

Gameplay equivalent of They’re not stuttering in other words.
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Post Post #1727 (ISO) » Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:22 pm

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In post 1724, Cephrir wrote: I'm just sassy I'm not annoyed by this game at all =_=
This is closer to what I meant I think
It's a general Ceph tone thing and not indicative of you being scum
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Post Post #1728 (ISO) » Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:33 pm

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In post 1725, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1723, Klick wrote: What is the difference between this and standard Ceph seeming annoyed by the gamestate generally
Ceph is very capable of getting annoyed with games as town
What's different here
If you don’t see it I don’t know how to make you see it
But like, I think every time I have played against scum!Cephrir since 2021 I have picked up on something that tipped me off. So I feel reasonably confident in the scumflip happening here.
If you're that level of confident then you're probably justified in using your nuke!
But based on what you're describing, I feel the same level of confidence about Cephrir being town. I feel like I know Ceph fairly well on a personal level based on a long time of playing various games with him and feel qualified to make judgements on that. Doesn't mean I can't be wrong, but I feel like I believe Ceph's point of view is a town one.

We can see which perspective is correct here, and then I'd be interested in evaluating the situation afterwards.
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Post Post #1729 (ISO) » Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:34 pm

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In post 1726, Bell wrote: Another thing about Chell town is that they haven’t been phased by the flips any.

No awkward comments. No seeming need to process and going quiet or at least seeming any different.

Gameplay equivalent of They’re not stuttering in other words.
Okay what, this feels counterintuitive
Scum would have less reason to double-take since they know the flips generally?
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Post Post #1730 (ISO) » Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:40 pm

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I guess it’s counter intuitive?
I thought it was pretty much settled science that the cognitive load for scum is higher than for town. Because there’s more to consider, *because* they know more and have to figure out how to manage additional information.

That said. ambiguity.
I guess it depends on the person.
I’d be pretty quiet rn if I were scum or at least frantically trying to talk to avoid looking like I was disappearing.
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Post Post #1731 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:26 am

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I think we nuke gob!!!! If my early "reads" were right... I'm too good for this lmao
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Post Post #1732 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:26 am

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and no I haven't even seen a post by gob since page 10
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Post Post #1733 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:26 am

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oh jokes.. sorry gob :( 50% accuracy... not too bad!!!
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Post Post #1734 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:27 am

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tbh I do nothing and yall blew up 2 scum, I really don't think my reading "expertise" is needed lmao
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Post Post #1735 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:27 am

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In post 1730, Bell wrote: I thought it was pretty much settled science that the cognitive load for scum is higher than for town
that is so many big words... idk what that means for your alignment though
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Post Post #1736 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 3:04 am

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T3 flip is significant
Hmmmm
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Post Post #1737 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:00 am

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Gun to head I'd still say Chell is scum who bussed T3, and so I'll let it play out. Not high confidence admittedly.

IMO Meuh and Ircher are now the best targets for destruction.
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Post Post #1738 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:12 am

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Why meuh
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Post Post #1739 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:19 am

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initially t3 called me and unowen SvS

it was only right after my nuke on unowen failed that t3 started calling unowen town
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Post Post #1740 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:20 am

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so nuke to head id still say unowen is scum who desperately needs town to start dying
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Post Post #1741 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:25 am

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In post 1737, UNOwen wrote: Gun to head I'd still say Chell is scum who bussed T3
why
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #1742 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:25 am

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ohh i guess timer is up just now. Impact post from pooky coming soon
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Post Post #1743 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:28 am

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it's been a pleasure
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Post Post #1744 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:30 am

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[IMPACT REPORT]


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[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile tracked to facility XR-934, currently commanded by
Unowen

[NORAD SYSTEM] Analyzing flight trajectory…
[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile is currently targeting coordinates registered to
Chell
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[NORAD SYSTEM] Estimating time until impact...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Warhead will detonate on 10-01-23 - 1225 Hours.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile impact observed at 1225 - no nuclear detonation.
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Post Post #1745 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:31 am

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In post 1738, Chell wrote: Why meuh
Well baseline is that there's nothing great in her ISO, "nuke StD but why Andres?" doesn't feel like a consistent POV at first glance and I'm sure there's scum within the peacnik brigade.
But mostly I think is a very weird buddy attempt of Firebringer, since she hasn't shown any other interest in defending you or pushing me.
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Post Post #1746 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:32 am

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Spoiler: the receipts
In post 487, T3 wrote: [Andante, Gamma]
[Ircher]
[Bell, Gob, Cakez]
[Cephrir, Firebringer]--------------------- NULL LINE
[Skygazer, Norwee]
[Owen, marci]
[Chell]

If you're not on this list then I haven't seen or cared about any of your posts. Or maybe I just forgot about you when making this list.
In post 825, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
[IMPACT REPORT]


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[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile tracked to facility XR-834, currently commanded by
Chell

[NORAD SYSTEM] Analyzing flight trajectory…
[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile is currently targeting coordinates registered to
Unowen
.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Estimating time until impact...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Warhead will detonate on 9-29-23 - 1333 Hours.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile impact observed at 1333 - no nuclear detonation.
In post 838, T3 wrote:
In post 814, UNOwen wrote:
In post 806, Gamma Emerald wrote: Why do you think it’s targeted at you specifically?
because I was set to make a retaliation strike
This is the kind of batshit crazy theory that usually comes from town lol. Idk where I stand on UNOwen right now - I scumread him earlier and I thought that Chell could be bussing but now I'm not sure.
In post 1046, T3 wrote: [Gamma, Andante, Bell]
[Cephrir, Roden, Firebringer]
[Ircher, UNOwen]
[Cakez, STD]
[Andres, Penguin, Klick, Meuh]------ NULL LINE
[Skygazer, Norwee]
[Doctor Drew, gob]
[Chell, Marci]

Bell I originally would put in lean town but while ISO'ing Klick I found some towny Bell posts so he can go in my top townreads
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Post Post #1747 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:33 am

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i don't think meuh has been buddying me?
in that post meuh is defending Chell
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #1748 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:33 am

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In post 1744, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: [NORAD SYSTEM] Missile impact observed at 1225 - no nuclear detonation.
Drat! My abysmal engineers have failed me, how could this be?!

Well at least I know my day can only get better from here..... :D
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Post Post #1749 (ISO) » Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:34 am

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In post 1747, Firebringer wrote: i don't think meuh has been buddying me?
in that post meuh is defending Chell
And that is the only post where she does so, and she didn't follow up on the threat or even mention it again so I doubt she actually cared about defending Chell there.

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