Mini Normal 2313: I am sitting in a room (game over)

[JacksonVirgo]

Doing just some baseline mech thinking so I don't have to do it later, excluding both PRs, the two soft clears and myself the full PoE right now is Gob, Dann, Merlyn, BlackStar, Andante, Wiz and Blue. Taking out my confident Town-reads (Andante, Wiz) we have a pool of 5 (with hopefully 3 wolves in it) with 3 lims. Yeah we got a pretty good advantage here and there's time to correct a possible faulty read on Andante/Wiz.

[JacksonVirgo]

Bob self-resolves too.

[JacksonVirgo]

the only thing that has given me pause on brightbluebug is the snark (or spite?) in 1164

it seems like that was in response to my scum read of them, so apparently they had been reading the game

and idk I wouldn't expect that emotional reaction from scum unless they felt they were being caught for the wrong reasons

This is throwing down what I think they'll do down their throat but I don't think they'd be one to be frustrated particularly about a "right for wrong reasons" when they've been pushed as much as they have

[JacksonVirgo]

That being said, I'm actually not confident blue is a wolf. I have them pretty low in my reads but like my gut is telling me that it isn't them, and if I were to try and put logic behind that feeling I'd say because it's been easy to push all game? But I'm aware that's mostly NAI by it's lonesome so I'll try and put some extra thought into that

Most people have said that they're suspicious of Bug but the wagon has stalled out and we keep moving off in other directions instead.

Are you insinuating this is resistance because they're a wolf?

[JacksonVirgo]

implying*
Insinuating implies it's negative

[BlackStar]

That being said, I'm actually not confident blue is a wolf. I have them pretty low in my reads but like my gut is telling me that it isn't them, and if I were to try and put logic behind that feeling I'd say because it's been easy to push all game? But I'm aware that's mostly NAI by it's lonesome so I'll try and put some extra thought into that

Most people have said that they're suspicious of Bug but the wagon has stalled out and we keep moving off in other directions instead.

Are you insinuating this is resistance because they're a wolf?

Maybe. All I know is that they don't seem to be as easy to push as you said

[JacksonVirgo]

That being said, I'm actually not confident blue is a wolf. I have them pretty low in my reads but like my gut is telling me that it isn't them, and if I were to try and put logic behind that feeling I'd say because it's been easy to push all game? But I'm aware that's mostly NAI by it's lonesome so I'll try and put some extra thought into that

Most people have said that they're suspicious of Bug but the wagon has stalled out and we keep moving off in other directions instead.

Are you insinuating this is resistance because they're a wolf?

Maybe. All I know is that they don't seem to be as easy to push as you said

I should be more specific, they're easy to argue they're wolf.

[BlackStar]

That being said, I'm actually not confident blue is a wolf. I have them pretty low in my reads but like my gut is telling me that it isn't them, and if I were to try and put logic behind that feeling I'd say because it's been easy to push all game? But I'm aware that's mostly NAI by it's lonesome so I'll try and put some extra thought into that

Most people have said that they're suspicious of Bug but the wagon has stalled out and we keep moving off in other directions instead.

Are you insinuating this is resistance because they're a wolf?

Maybe. All I know is that they don't seem to be as easy to push as you said

I should be more specific, they're easy to argue they're wolf.

Oh okay, gotcha. But if it's easy to argue that they're scum then isn't that a good reason to press them?

[JacksonVirgo]

VC 2.13

brightbluebug

(3):

BlackStar

, Andante, bob3141

Merlyn

(2): AnimatedWiz,

gob

gob

(2):

Dannflor

, Black

BlackStar

(1): pisskop

Black

(1): Hu Tao

bob3141

(1):

brightbluebug

Not Voting

(2): JacksonVirgo,

Merlyn

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to smack a player really hard in the nose. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2023-10-08 22:15:00).

mod notes: I lacking syntax

All my current PoE is highlighted here. They're split evenly, no two are voting together.

[JacksonVirgo]

That's a VC from when I first repped in btw

[JacksonVirgo]

Merlyn/Blue not existing makes it difficult to really gauge if there's resistance because they're a wolf or not. The only thing that should be looked into is Gobs vote.

[bob3141]

on a positive point there is good chance that bug will be replaced as they are 58 hours since thier last post and they are have already had 3 prods

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh okay, gotcha. But if it's easy to argue that they're scum then isn't that a good reason to press them?

On the surface level sure, and I'm not arguing TSTBS here but generally if someone is super scummy that a lot of people agree on it. It's generally a playstyle thing as opposed to anything AI

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh okay, gotcha. But if it's easy to argue that they're scum then isn't that a good reason to press them?

On the surface level sure, and I'm not arguing TSTBS here but generally if someone is super scummy that a lot of people agree on it early and consistently. It's generally a playstyle thing as opposed to anything AI

[JacksonVirgo]

That was an EBWOP

[bob3141]

VOTE: merlyn

[JacksonVirgo]

Any particular reason for Merlyn?

[bob3141]

Any particular reason for Merlyn?

just switchign back to my original vote since bug will get replacement

[AnimatedWiz]

VC 1.22 /// FINAL

Afrayed Knott

(7):

Merlyn

, Black,

Dannflor

, AnimatedWiz, Hu Tao, Afrayed Knott, Andante

BlackStar

(1): pisskop

AnimatedWiz

(1):

Gumiguy

Hu Tao

(1):

BlackStar

Not Voting

(3):

brightbluebug

, bob3141, Charles510

With 13 alive, it took 7 votes to scuttle a player. Day 1 has ended (countdown: (expired on 2023-09-28 06:30:00)).

mod notes: Tussling, failing

This is the final D1 vote count—here we can see two of Jackson’s scumreads on Afrayed’s wagon, and 3 not.

I feel like out of those 5, Merlyn is the most likely scum on the wagon, with BlackStar the most likely off the wagon.

[JacksonVirgo]

I have been spamming my solve for like 10 pages and people aren't listening to me I don't know what you expect from me but frustration

Your solve are two LHF players and an inactive Merlyn. Probably the easiest thing for scum to push in this game state

vote me

Quoting you so it notifies you, but I noticed something. The top three wagons are your entire solve. Gob would have opted to vote his partner forcing all three of them to be the three highest, do you think this is likely?

[JacksonVirgo]

VC 1.22 /// FINAL

Afrayed Knott

(7):

Merlyn

, Black,

Dannflor

, AnimatedWiz, Hu Tao, Afrayed Knott, Andante

BlackStar

(1): pisskop

AnimatedWiz

(1):

Gumiguy

Hu Tao

(1):

BlackStar

Not Voting

(3):

brightbluebug

, bob3141, Charles510

With 13 alive, it took 7 votes to scuttle a player. Day 1 has ended (countdown: (expired on 2023-09-28 06:30:00)).

mod notes: Tussling, failing

This is the final D1 vote count—here we can see two of Jackson’s scumreads on Afrayed’s wagon, and 3 not.

I feel like out of those 5, Merlyn is the most likely scum on the wagon, with BlackStar the most likely off the wagon.

I find it very hard to believe a scum planted themselves on the wagon first and then Town just completely took that and ran with it.

[JacksonVirgo]

aka Merlyn is the wolf and Black, Dann, Wiz, Hu Tao, Knott (why tf is he selfing here), Andante are all Town.

[JacksonVirgo]

Also those 5 are not my scum-reads. They are my PoE.

[bob3141]

seen it happen before and sometimes extra scum pile on.

[JacksonVirgo]

I'd probably opt to say the solve is Dann/Star/Merlyn