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Post Post #1625 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:39 am

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(1): Merlyn

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to smack a player really hard in the nose. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2023-10-08 22:15:00).

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Post Post #1626 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:40 am

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In post 1410, AnimatedWiz wrote: Merlyn is the one I trust least on that wagon—I townread Dann, Hu Tao, Andante, and Black (in that order), and Afrayed is obviously town, so that leaves Merlyn as the only person on that wagon I really scumread. You made the same point earlier in D2.

In addition to what I said there about Merlyn, she also just disappeared for a significant portion of D2 while we were all arguing amongst ourselves. I feel like it would be a smart move for scum to try to avoid drawing attention to themselves and to let us cannibalize each other.
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Post Post #1627 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:42 am

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In post 1619, Black wrote:
In post 1617, BlackStar wrote: Here’s my case against gob

In Post 1177 he says that either Merlyn or Bug are scum before he even reads the game. That does not seem like the actions of someone who’s town.

In post 1779 he adds my name to the end of Afrayed’s wagon for some reason even though I never voted for him. Andante was the hammer, so where did that even come from? He proceeds to vote for Merlyn and say it’s PoE without explaining how.

Then he makes this weird post about the IC being hypocritical.

In post 1237 he quotes the VC from when Afrayed was lynched but asks a couple of us if we were there around the time of the hammer. He was obviously just looking at those pages of the game, so there’s no point in asking us this. It comes across as a phony attempt to look like he’s trying to figure things out.

Post 1580 was baffling to me. How could not placing a single vote all Day 1 and voting for someone besides the mis-limed townie be equal actions in his eyes? It just seemed like a lazy excuse to join the wagon.
This entire case could be explained by gob being bad at playing townie lol

Anyway I don't think Gob is scum and I'm starting to really doubt my read on you BlackStar. Care to join me on an Annie wagon?

VOTE: AnimatedWiz
I'd rather lim either Bug or Gob today. Even though I'm suspicious of Annie, the thing that Jackson said earlier about Annie forgetting about your clear makes me not want to go after him right now
In post 1620, Black wrote: Wait why are you casing gob but voting for bug?
I can scum read more than one person
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Post Post #1628 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:44 am

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You didn't really say why you don't trust Merlyn/why you scumread her in #1410. Surely there was more to your read there other than she was on the Afrayed wagon?
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #1629 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:45 am

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In post 1627, BlackStar wrote: I can scum read more than one person
You seem more confident in your Gob scumread so why not vote there?
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #1630 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:55 am

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In post 1628, Black wrote: You didn't really say why you don't trust Merlyn/why you scumread her in #1410. Surely there was more to your read there other than she was on the Afrayed wagon?
That’s totally fair.

Some of the main things that pinged me on her as well as the wagonomics is how she kept on postponing her rereading—at a certain point, it really does feel like she’s actively attempting to not have to contribute to the game. And in the small amount of posts she’s had in D2, so many of them are just defending herself—she hasn’t really pushed anyone at all D2 aside from the very low-effort attempt to vote Hu Tao right at the beginning.

Since she pushed Afrayed so heavily in the beginning but now is suddenly apathetic to the idea of scumreading heavily, I feel like she’s definitely going for more of a survival strategy than a solve strategy, which doesn’t really benefit town at all even if she is town, y’know? It doesn’t match the profile of a contributing town player for me.
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Post Post #1631 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:00 am

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hey animated, that post makes me think merlyn is your partner... how accurate is that thought?
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Post Post #1632 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:03 am

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I mean, if me going out of my way to defend Dann repeatedly isn’t working with a partner but trying to set up a D3 elim on Merlyn and critiquing her play is, I don’t know what to say to that.
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Post Post #1633 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:14 am

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I'm confused by that lol, I do have an ani!scum world, but like, I'm yeeting bug here, all other thoughts can wait another day
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Post Post #1634 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:15 am

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like the ani/merlyn/X world has 3rd scum being like dann or someone, I'm not going down that till tomorrow, cause scum tried to kill black last night, I don't see a charles/bug/X team doing that.. hmmm
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Post Post #1635 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:16 am

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means bug lim wouldn't be optimal here, but like, bug literally isn't doing anything,,,,
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Post Post #1636 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:18 am

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In post 1634, Andante wrote: like the ani/merlyn/X world has 3rd scum being like dann or someone, I'm not going down that till tomorrow, cause scum tried to kill black last night, I don't see a charles/bug/X team doing that.. hmmm
A Dann/Annie team would do that. I suspected them both D1
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Post Post #1637 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:19 am

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In post 1635, Andante wrote: means bug lim wouldn't be optimal here, but like, bug literally isn't doing anything,,,,
Bug is getting replaced. I think we should let the replacement talk
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Post Post #1638 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:19 am

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yeah thinking more about the kill on you, I'm like, that would HAVE to be like not the lurkers lol, cause you're really good at scumhunting, I'll follow you today, we don't have to go for bug/gob
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Post Post #1639 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:19 am

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ooh nice perfect
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Post Post #1640 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:20 am

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but my gut has been saying like ani/dann/merlyn is a good pool to look in... part of me feels like scum TMId charles town
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Post Post #1641 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:24 am

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In post 1640, Andante wrote: but my gut has been saying like ani/dann/merlyn is a good pool to look in... part of me feels like scum TMId charles town
Can you expand on that last part, Andante?
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Post Post #1642 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:25 am

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In post 1638, Andante wrote: yeah thinking more about the kill on you, I'm like, that would HAVE to be like not the lurkers lol, cause you're really good at scumhunting, I'll follow you today, we don't have to go for bug/gob
I wouldn't say I'm great at scum hunting but I do appreciate the sentiment lol

Since you're willing to cooperate with me I'll consider helping you push someone D3 if I'm wrong here
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Post Post #1643 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:32 am

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In post 1642, Black wrote:
In post 1638, Andante wrote: yeah thinking more about the kill on you, I'm like, that would HAVE to be like not the lurkers lol, cause you're really good at scumhunting, I'll follow you today, we don't have to go for bug/gob
I wouldn't say I'm great at scum hunting but I do appreciate the sentiment lol

Since you're willing to cooperate with me I'll consider helping you push someone D3 if I'm wrong here
I mean, I won't blindly sheep, but like, I'm open to listening and will likely agree and am fine going with you here, not blaming you if wrong
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Post Post #1644 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:32 am

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In post 1641, Merlyn wrote:
In post 1640, Andante wrote: but my gut has been saying like ani/dann/merlyn is a good pool to look in... part of me feels like scum TMId charles town
Can you expand on that last part, Andante?
I was trying to push charles d1 and got so much "HE MUST BE TOWN!!!" from people
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Post Post #1645 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:37 am

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Dann/Annie/Merlyn is my hero solve

I think Merlyn fits here as someone that would want me dead N1 for multiple reasons. She mentioned in a game we played together last month that she thinks I'm really good at finding scum. She also might be worried here that I could sniff out her scum game since I played with her when she was scum in a newbie game a few months ago

I think it fits but I'm not sure if this is the world we live in
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Post Post #1646 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:38 am

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VOTE: Animated
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Post Post #1647 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:47 am

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In post 1626, AnimatedWiz wrote:
In post 1410, AnimatedWiz wrote: Merlyn is the one I trust least on that wagon—I townread Dann, Hu Tao, Andante, and Black (in that order), and Afrayed is obviously town, so that leaves Merlyn as the only person on that wagon I really scumread. You made the same point earlier in D2.

In addition to what I said there about Merlyn, she also just disappeared for a significant portion of D2 while we were all arguing amongst ourselves. I feel like it would be a smart move for scum to try to avoid drawing attention to themselves and to let us cannibalize each other.
meryl pretty much lock scum for me at the moment. Yesterday i decided to give them teh benifit of teh doubt but they have done nothing but shadow blacksatr/black. No attempt to push their own scum reads
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Post Post #1648 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:49 am

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ok sure VOTE: merlyn
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Post Post #1649 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2023 5:50 am

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