Mini Normal 2314 - The Mafia Have a Cop [END]

[UnaBombaH]

I feel like you saw an easy avenue and you took it.
It's either very surface level townplay, which is obviously all fine and dandy this early on D1...or it's scum trying to make at least a somewhat justified serious vote.
With the added benefit of White knighting (I think that might be the right game-term?) and potentially slightly pocketing Boon at the same time.

[geraintm]

Oh yeah, Una distracted me from my initial first post


I claim Miller

Do you not think miller would have positive utilty for you in a game called "the mafia have a cop"
VOTE: Flavor Leaf

This is where my sums add up to
VOTE: jjh

[UnaBombaH]

Like if it's 50/50 scum trying to play or town trying to do something reasonable, I just lean scum this time.
Hence, guts.

..and in case anyone is wondering - no I did not miss the irony there.
I was making a very similar vote on Hu Tao, with a very flimsy reasoning as well.

[UnaBombaH]

Hey, I remember gera too from some mutual games!
I missed your name in the initial list, but recognized it now with that avatar.

[geraintm]

Hey, I remember gera too from some mutual games!
I missed your name in the initial list, but recognized it now with that avatar.

I've had that avatar since 2006. Mr consistent

[UnaBombaH]

Hey, I remember gera too from some mutual games!
I missed your name in the initial list, but recognized it now with that avatar.

I've had that avatar since 2006. Mr consistent

Respect.

You really think scum!jjh927 made a silly mistake with their approach towards Flavors claim, or was it just the only voteworthy thing so far to you?

[marcistar]

I dont think what jjh said is scummy but tbh i dont even understand it

[Flavor Leaf]

Over the heads, Roden

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh yeah, Una distracted me from my initial first post


I claim Miller

Scum post. He said he would never claim Miller as Miller again after that one game

Oh yeah, Una distracted me from my initial first post


I claim Miller

Do you not think miller would have positive utilty for you in a game called "the mafia have a cop"
VOTE: Flavor Leaf

I think this is a poor reason to vote flavor.

VOTE: jjh

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh yeah, Una distracted me from my initial first post


I claim Miller

Do you not think miller would have positive utilty for you in a game called "the mafia have a cop"
VOTE: Flavor Leaf

This is where my sums add up to
VOTE: jjh

What are you saying?

[Flavor Leaf]

Mafia could have a Traitor this game to warrant the Cop. I can’t really think of any other reason the Cop knowledge would be there.

[jjh927]

There's a lot of potential reasons but speculating about them would be counterproductive and distracting

[jjh927]

That being said, like I posited earlier- why claim miller if the only theory you can come up with is a traitor? Do you not consider yourself a priority target for a scum cop to check?

[jjh927]

I dont think what jjh said is scummy but tbh i dont even understand it

Just to pop over to the side for a second since I'm very much going to be focusing on Flavor Leaf for a little bit, the logic is essentially that in a game where it is known that the mafia have a cop, it is likely that the mafia will use that cop to try and find a traitor.
The existence of a miller in a setup with a mafia cop could result in some very very funny shenanigans where the mafia believe they have found a traitor when they have in fact found a miller

[Doctor Drew]

That being said, like I posited earlier- why claim miller if the only theory you can come up with is a traitor? Do you not consider yourself a priority target for a scum cop to check?

I dont think what jjh said is scummy but tbh i dont even understand it

Just to pop over to the side for a second since I'm very much going to be focusing on Flavor Leaf for a little bit, the logic is essentially that in a game where it is known that the mafia have a cop, it is likely that the mafia will use that cop to try and find a traitor.
The existence of a miller in a setup with a mafia cop could result in some very very funny shenanigans where the mafia believe they have found a traitor when they have in fact found a miller

I am actually in agreement with JJh here.

Flavor, did you think about there being a traitor in this game before you claimed miller?

[Flavor Leaf]

I dont think what jjh said is scummy but tbh i dont even understand it

Just to pop over to the side for a second since I'm very much going to be focusing on Flavor Leaf for a little bit, the logic is essentially that in a game where it is known that the mafia have a cop, it is likely that the mafia will use that cop to try and find a traitor.
The existence of a miller in a setup with a mafia cop could result in some very very funny shenanigans where the mafia believe they have found a traitor when they have in fact found a miller

Sounds like you need to check that link i posted

[Flavor Leaf]

That being said, like I posited earlier- why claim miller if the only theory you can come up with is a traitor? Do you not consider yourself a priority target for a scum cop to check?

I dont think what jjh said is scummy but tbh i dont even understand it

Just to pop over to the side for a second since I'm very much going to be focusing on Flavor Leaf for a little bit, the logic is essentially that in a game where it is known that the mafia have a cop, it is likely that the mafia will use that cop to try and find a traitor.
The existence of a miller in a setup with a mafia cop could result in some very very funny shenanigans where the mafia believe they have found a traitor when they have in fact found a miller

I am actually in agreement with JJh here.

Flavor, did you think about there being a traitor in this game before you claimed miller?

Nope.

I put like 3% thought into the Miller claim.

[geraintm]

Oh yeah, Una distracted me from my initial first post


I claim Miller

Do you not think miller would have positive utilty for you in a game called "the mafia have a cop"
VOTE: Flavor Leaf

This is where my sums add up to
VOTE: jjh

What are you saying?

20, plus 22 = 42

[geraintm]

That being said, like I posited earlier- why claim miller if the only theory you can come up with is a traitor? Do you not consider yourself a priority target for a scum cop to check?

I dont think what jjh said is scummy but tbh i dont even understand it

Just to pop over to the side for a second since I'm very much going to be focusing on Flavor Leaf for a little bit, the logic is essentially that in a game where it is known that the mafia have a cop, it is likely that the mafia will use that cop to try and find a traitor.
The existence of a miller in a setup with a mafia cop could result in some very very funny shenanigans where the mafia believe they have found a traitor when they have in fact found a miller

I am actually in agreement with JJh here.

Flavor, did you think about there being a traitor in this game before you claimed miller?

Nope.

I put like 3% thought into the Miller claim.

You are a better player than me, but after reading the other posts on why there is a miller in the game I think you should have known better than to make that claim as town.

[Alisae]

V OTECOUNT 1.2
E LIMINATION V OTES
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES
Gamma Emerald (3)	Roden, marcistar, Xegarus
Flavor Leaf (2)	JacksonVirgo, jjh927
jjh926 (2)	Hu Tao, geraintm
UnaBombaH (1)	Gamma Emerald
marcistar (1)	Doctor Drew
Doctor Drew (1)	The Bulge
Hu Tao (1)	UnaBombaH
NOT VOTING: Flavor Leaf, Nono
With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to flip! Deadline: (expired on 2023-10-20 19:33:00)
Notes:

[Flavor Leaf]

That being said, like I posited earlier- why claim miller if the only theory you can come up with is a traitor? Do you not consider yourself a priority target for a scum cop to check?

I dont think what jjh said is scummy but tbh i dont even understand it

Just to pop over to the side for a second since I'm very much going to be focusing on Flavor Leaf for a little bit, the logic is essentially that in a game where it is known that the mafia have a cop, it is likely that the mafia will use that cop to try and find a traitor.
The existence of a miller in a setup with a mafia cop could result in some very very funny shenanigans where the mafia believe they have found a traitor when they have in fact found a miller

I am actually in agreement with JJh here.

Flavor, did you think about there being a traitor in this game before you claimed miller?

Nope.

I put like 3% thought into the Miller claim.

You are a better player than me, but after reading the other posts on why there is a miller in the game I think you should have known better than to make that claim as town.

I think you think I care much about mech.

Since it’s going over people’s heads, and they ain’t clicking the link, I’ll explain.

I joke claimed Miller based on a recent game, with players in this game and our mod, I claimed Miller first post.

This somehow got pushed as being a scummy thing to do, when I’ve been under the impression that’s what you’re supposed to do as Miller.

That said, I stated I would never true claim Miller as Miller ever again.

[jjh927]

I dont think what jjh said is scummy but tbh i dont even understand it

Just to pop over to the side for a second since I'm very much going to be focusing on Flavor Leaf for a little bit, the logic is essentially that in a game where it is known that the mafia have a cop, it is likely that the mafia will use that cop to try and find a traitor.
The existence of a miller in a setup with a mafia cop could result in some very very funny shenanigans where the mafia believe they have found a traitor when they have in fact found a miller

Sounds like you need to check that link i posted

If I acknowledge that then we don't get to ride this train out of RVS

PEdit: Okay, you've made the train leave

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, the logic y’all trying to push is a town misplay but it’s being shifted like a scummy thing.

What benefit does a scum member have to claim Miller in the scenario y’all poking?

If they are looking for a Traitor, then scum claiming Miller makes no sense as group scum or Traitor scum.

If Traitor scum claims Miller, scum isn’t going to target them, and might end up thinking they’re actually Miller.

[Flavor Leaf]

I dont think what jjh said is scummy but tbh i dont even understand it

Just to pop over to the side for a second since I'm very much going to be focusing on Flavor Leaf for a little bit, the logic is essentially that in a game where it is known that the mafia have a cop, it is likely that the mafia will use that cop to try and find a traitor.
The existence of a miller in a setup with a mafia cop could result in some very very funny shenanigans where the mafia believe they have found a traitor when they have in fact found a miller

Sounds like you need to check that link i posted

If I acknowledge that then we don't get to ride this train out of RVS

PEdit: Okay, you've made the train leave

It’s the Flavor Special.

Somehow, I don’t ever vote in RVS, and I always end up being a crux that pivots the game

[jjh927]

See, that's actually good logic which I really would have liked to see come from someone other than you