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[Nautical Dawn]

KT and Kop sort of just exist.

I see the TMI argument on RN and I don't like their framing of Skellen's THS push as shading. I think Skellen's been the most obviously good-faith player in the game. RN proposing massclaim today also looks like an attempt at outing PRs, especially since a protective is dead.

What bothers me about Enchant is that a lot of their assertions last page are just blatantly wrong. FL pressured multiple people yesterday, Enchant wasn't the prime candidate/main wagon at EoD, and killing someone they townread isn't going to dig them in the hole. And if they meant it the other way around, THS didn't seem to maintain the TR, even voted them near EoD.

[Nautical Dawn]

I think it’s completely telling that the second I start to dip with my Enchant town read, they come after me.

They chopped me constantly in Blood In Utopia, and then they chopped a watcher gambit I pulled and got outed as scum there in the process.

Links?

[Nautical Dawn]

Well, I found that Blood game anyway and I see what you mean.

[Nautical Dawn]

I think both scum are most likely within Kitty/Kop/Enchant/RN, with the latter two being significantly scummier than the former two. I'm willing to re-evaluate possibilities like FL/Skellen on an Enchant townflip, but right now I don't think that's the world we live in.

VOTE: Enchant

[Flavor Leaf]

Well, I found that Blood game anyway and I see what you mean.

That one is less so imo, too, they just shut out on that game.

I’ll have to find the other game some time

[Enchant]

E-1 heh.

[Enchant]

I hammer self in (expired on 2023-10-08 18:22:25) unless some folk will do it first.

Right now you can make bets if i am just overflexing as scum or genuinely SURE FL is mafia and you SHOULD follow with his death next day regardless of what bullshit PR/anything he gonna claim, yes?

[Flavor Leaf]

I can't tell.

viewtopic.php?p=13761325#p13761325 Here's a time Enchant was scum and went against me with a lot of boldness, and essentially outed themselves to catch me. This feels pretty similar. I am a little hesitant based on the boldness, it's a bit more than that time.

im a little biased cuz they're tunneling.

[Enchant]

We live in society

[KittyTacky]

RN isn't too scummy to me, Enchant is mega scummy and I'm sheeping FL on that though.

[Aisa]

2.01

Votecount 2.01

Enchant (3):

KittyTacky, Flavor Leaf, Nautical Dawn

Flavor Leaf (1):

Enchant

Not Voting (3):

Random Nurse, Kop, Skellen

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2023-10-14 20:50:00).

[Skellen]

Not a super strong read since Kop wasn't fully caught up, but 460 looks like Kop is setting up to be able to vote any of {bugspray, THS, Enchant} depending on what people go towards.

Yes, exactly! Kop's catch-up at the end of D1 felt like... nothing, no vibes, but the focus on these three is pretty noticeable and odd. Why the focus on these three? It felt a bit artificial like he was gearing up to place his vote there, but always making sure to remain on the fence. He said he disliked some things or something feeling weird, but all these statements kind of lacked... impact.

I kind of want him to explain his progression on THS. He disliked him at first for his willingness to hammer so early, yet thought he made 1-2 townie posts that wouldn't redeem his earlier play (he never explained more here besides the hammer thing), just to take a chop at ND herself and her case on THS. like, it doesn't really feel he belived in a THS scumread that he kind of implied.

Why the particular focus on ND btw?

[Skellen]

Flavor Leaf as mafia posts many, but value of these is low in attempt to dominate thread, not provide and further game. There's like how many designated letters that i am town yet it's seriously considering to vote me. Out of everyone (yes it's why me in disguise, laugh). He doesn't pressure anything, he just posts. He only voted me in response that i voted him.

This is what he did with your predecessor and THS as well though? Well, minus them voting first. If I remember it correctly (it's been a while) that's how he often handles his 1v1s. How is he not providing/furthering the game? I don't really agree with that.

[Skellen]

The whole argument between FL and Enchant is a bit difficult to understand as it feels most of it is founding on previous experiences. Personally I am not really believing in scum!FL, I think he would have chosen other choices in this game by dayplay, also with the nk. As for Enchant, I thought their reaction to RN's vote at the end of D1 felt townie. Gandhi however felt more scummy. I will check the two games FL mentioned though.

@FL:
How does town!Enchant usually approach you or would you expect them to do so?

[Skellen]

@RN:
Can you still respond to 459 and 461 please?

[Skellen]

For the nk, THS seems kind of as odd choice, also because it means that scum weren't really gunning for the other pr. Probably.

I don't think anyone else on the THS wagon kills THS, not even FL for THS scumreading him, we saw on D1 how that went. He usually aims for players that can actually threat his thread control iirc.

I can see scum thinking that THS isn't a viable mislim option anymore after D1, which I am suspecting the most atm. Which would solidify my townread on ND further at least. Alternatively it's an attempt to shade those who pushed for THS as all three of us (me/ND/FL) were townreading each other and scum kind of has to break this apart if all three are town. By what I see only RN and Enchant have done so as the latter would imply.

[Skellen]

RN feels the scummiest to me tbh. I didn't really like his vote on me at the end of D1. Less for voting me, more for how it was less than 24 hours before deadline and it was just a pretty half-hearted push. Made it look like an alibi vote. The vote on me would have been kind of consistent as he was suggesting the idea of a team of me and ND to FL, however that was all. He never really went further there.

I am still hard town on ND and FL. I also think Kitty is town with his strong stance on THS on D1, which didn't felt bullshitty to me. Would like to hear more from Kitty though.

Have talked about Kop already and have to read stuff for Enchant.

Atm at a poe of Enchant/Kop/RN.

[Flavor Leaf]

The whole argument between FL and Enchant is a bit difficult to understand as it feels most of it is founding on previous experiences. Personally I am not really believing in scum!FL, I think he would have chosen other choices in this game by dayplay, also with the nk. As for Enchant, I thought their reaction to RN's vote at the end of D1 felt townie. Gandhi however felt more scummy. I will check the two games FL mentioned though.

@FL:
How does town!Enchant usually approach you or would you expect them to do so?

Town Ench is usually more off on their own thing, maybe shade every now and then, but scumEnch is always like directly challenging.

I feel it didn’t start that way because they had to relieve pressure when they replaced in

[Enchant]

I telling you all secret.

About reading me correctly.

Spoiler: I hope you ready

You can't. And only FL has facade of pretending of doing it.

This game is hopeless.

[Enchant]

RN feels the scummiest to me tbh. I didn't really like his vote on me at the end of D1. Less for voting me, more for how it was less than 24 hours before deadline and it was just a pretty half-hearted push. Made it look like an alibi vote. The vote on me would have been kind of consistent as he was suggesting the idea of a team of me and ND to FL, however that was all. He never really went further there.

I am still hard town on ND and FL. I also think Kitty is town with his strong stance on THS on D1, which didn't felt bullshitty to me. Would like to hear more from Kitty though.

Have talked about Kop already and have to read stuff for Enchant.

Atm at a poe of Enchant/Kop/RN.

Rightly i understand that when i flip you will ignore literally everything i said and kill game on Kop?

[Flavor Leaf]

It would probably help if you tried more with a less pessimistic outlook

[Enchant]

For who?

[Flavor Leaf]

Part of me wants to unvote, part of me wants to call Enchant’s bluff, and if they’re town, win in spite of them.

[Enchant]

Part of me wants to unvote, part of me wants to call Enchant’s bluff, and if they’re town, win in spite of them.

You only win this one as mafia because they will continue sheeping you.

Sad but true. Also hey just 30 minutes until you learn if i was bluffing or not.

[Flavor Leaf]

Part of me wants to unvote, part of me wants to call Enchant’s bluff, and if they’re town, win in spite of them.

You only win this one as mafia because they will continue sheeping you.

Sad but true. Also hey just 30 minutes until you learn if i was bluffing or not.

Anyone else see why this is a scum slip from an Enchant pov who “knows im scum”