Mini Normal 2314 - The Mafia Have a Cop [END]

[JacksonVirgo]

I gotta read back though as that's just a single post

[marcistar]

Were u busy gamma? Why didnt you bring this up yourself i was wondering?

[Flavor Leaf]

ah damn, are Marci and Gamma scum together? Could just be Marci white knight.

gonna avoid that thought for now because it's just paranoia, but i got big pings from that marci. looks like a performance, but i can see them posting like that as town.

And im kinda okay letting others solve for Marci.

I've gotten the same pings from Marci but I think it's isolated from Gamma, I don't see a pairing per se

I lean town on Gamma anyways.

[UnaBombaH]

Flavor Leaf (1) - I'd honestly consider giving up one of my three Genie-wishes for having the ability to 100% accurately read this player. Just so I could either death-tunnel or townblock him every time. I think I am rather good at sorting anyone in end game though, and scum!Boon might either underestimate me, or keep me around for too long just for their own entertainment..

This feels fake

Well, it's mostly a joke. So I guess that qualifies as fake of sorts.

[UnaBombaH]

I

crumbed my role like CRAZY in that game as well.
I got to slip in some talk of Universal monster-movies or something. Talked about a TUB in some context and all..oh the times.

A

nd yet..somebody..was able to convince people to not trust me and discredited my crumbs even though I had a very clear cut and consistent

m

eta of doing it back then.

W

ouldn't do it nowadays - mainly because I've gotten a bit lazy crafting secret messages for the future. Especially since most people are not going to believe them anyway.

W

h well.

Why would you do this?!?!?!?
VOTE: The Bulge

[Roden]

I

crumbed my role like CRAZY in that game as well.
I got to slip in some talk of Universal monster-movies or something. Talked about a TUB in some context and all..oh the times.

A

nd yet..somebody..was able to convince people to not trust me and discredited my crumbs even though I had a very clear cut and consistent

m

eta of doing it back then.

W

ouldn't do it nowadays - mainly because I've gotten a bit lazy crafting secret messages for the future. Especially since most people are not going to believe them anyway.

W

h well.

Why would you do this?!?!?!?
VOTE: The Bulge

Did your read on Hu Tao change?

[UnaBombaH]

I gotta read back though as that's just a single post

I have a very grounded reasoning for those light blue colored posts.
I like to bold and/or color things from my posts anyway, but whenever I use votecounts or make a full lists of reads I will often write my own thoughts with colors.
Easier to find them later when anyone potentially returns to my reads.

To me it's all about being open with my reads and returning to them later for evaluation when we have flips/results to compare them to.
And sometimes just forcing myself to write something/anything about as many players as possible helps me process my thoughts at the same time.
Plus it very often garners attention and talk from others - positive or negative - and at the very least fuels conversation.

And no, this is not a LAMIST thing since whenever I'd play scum, I would do the same thing.
It's just a me-thing and totally NAI by itself.

[UnaBombaH]

I

crumbed my role like CRAZY in that game as well.
I got to slip in some talk of Universal monster-movies or something. Talked about a TUB in some context and all..oh the times.

A

nd yet..somebody..was able to convince people to not trust me and discredited my crumbs even though I had a very clear cut and consistent

m

eta of doing it back then.

W

ouldn't do it nowadays - mainly because I've gotten a bit lazy crafting secret messages for the future. Especially since most people are not going to believe them anyway.

W

h well.

Why would you do this?!?!?!?
VOTE: The Bulge

Did your read on Hu Tao change?

Oh no, I'm just throwing a brief temper tantrum before I need to go and sleep.
Can't believe Bulge revealed to EVERYONE that I am indeed a town!Warwick.
Or was it just that my role is from the town of Warwick?
Well, something Warwick anyway.

[JacksonVirgo]

I gotta read back though as that's just a single post

I have a very grounded reasoning for those light blue colored posts.
I like to bold and/or color things from my posts anyway, but whenever I use votecounts or make a full lists of reads I will often write my own thoughts with colors.
Easier to find them later when anyone potentially returns to my reads. :]

To me it's all about being open with my reads and returning to them later for evaluation when we have flips/results to compare them to.
And sometimes just forcing myself to write something/anything about as many players as possible helps me process my thoughts at the same time.
Plus it very often garners attention and talk from others - positive or negative - and at the very least fuels conversation.

And no, this is not a LAMIST thing since whenever I'd play scum, I would do the same thing.
It's just a me-thing and totally NAI by itself.

I say this in the most respectful way I can, but self-meta is stupid and I'm going to have to throw that (the last two sentences) out of the window. However, I will take what you said otherwise to mind when (or let's be real, if) I go back through your posts but it definitely sparked conversation from me so ig you did a great job lmao

[UnaBombaH]

Yeah, everyone died down when I got here, and now that I'm going to sleep you guys are going to have tons of fun without me..

VOTE: Hu Tao - I still consider my vote here to be the most accurately based.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m pro self meta as a tactic.

[UnaBombaH]

I say this in the most respectful way I can, but self-meta is stupid and I'm going to have to throw that (the last two sentences) out of the window.

I mean, I agree that self meta is usually stupid. But in this very specific case it is also a thing that you'd be able to verify/debunk if you really felt the need to.

Now since you already said what I guessed - you might not even return to my posts this game - I have 0 faith in you or anyone else going down the rabbit hole of reading my old games. And honestly it wouldn't do you much good other than the fact that you could see both town!Una and scum!Una using this same posting method and style.
That's the one thing I'm consistent with, because it's not actually "meta" to be accurate. It's a personal quirk of mine, and the way I like to write and read posts in forums.

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m pro self meta as a tactic.

It's dumb of anybody to use someones self-meta as reasoning, and therefore it's dumb to use it as an argument. Self-meta falls apart in three major ways, the first is the fact you need to be painfully self-aware of every nook and cranny of your gameplay, which for the most part (or even experienced players) are nowhere even close to being able to really know yourself from that objective point of view. You have a different perspective at viewing yourself than every other person on this planet. Secondly, self-meta can be used to cherry pick by the person making the arguments. You don't know whether or not what they're saying is accurate and if they bring their receipts you have no way to verify whether or not that's truly AI/NAI as they say it is unless you already know how they play and in which case why are you using self-meta. The third is the common reception of self-meta from my own experience is that it's either blindly trusted (rare) or disregarded/ignored. So it's pointless to even say to begin with, make actual arguments that people can flow with in the game and not say useless shit. Self-meta is almost as useless as somebody saying how townie they are.

[UnaBombaH]

I’m pro self meta as a tactic.

You are also pro "let's make a wacky claim as either alignment and then just enjoy the shitstorm", right?

I'm off to bed, but looking forward to drinking my monday morning coffee with a side of juicy and spicy Mafiascum..

[Flavor Leaf]

You left out the part where you say it with charisma, and people 2 day phases later forget you’re the one that said it

[JacksonVirgo]

I mean, I agree that self meta is usually stupid. But in this very specific case it is also a thing that you'd be able to verify/debunk if you really felt the need to.

You say this as if people will ever actually try and do this. The amount of times people say this compared to the amount of people that actually verify... bruh. I think I recall only one instance of somebody actually meta-diving that wasn't referring to a specific older game they remember etc. And that was off-site

[JacksonVirgo]

You left out the part where you say it with charisma, and people 2 day phases later forget you’re the one that said it

Remember where I said it's used to cherry pick and manipulate. That falls into that bin

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m pro self meta as a tactic.

You are also pro "let's make a wacky claim as either alignment and then just enjoy the shitstorm", right?

I'm off to bed, but looking forward to drinking my monday morning coffee with a side of juicy and spicy Mafiascum..

It causes discussion that’s readable

I’m a smooth enough talker to protect myself from it, though, a lot of people would end up dying

[Flavor Leaf]

You left out the part where you say it with charisma, and people 2 day phases later forget you’re the one that said it

Remember where I said it's used to cherry pick and manipulate. That falls into that bin

Exactly.

Not useless

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m mostly just trolling

[JacksonVirgo]

I know lol

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m pro self meta as a tactic.

You are also pro "let's make a wacky claim as either alignment and then just enjoy the shitstorm", right? :roll:

I'm off to bed, but looking forward to drinking my monday morning coffee with a side of juicy and spicy Mafiascum..

Brother that's me as well. Love that for us, but for me it's usually for a very good reason and it's just for chaos.

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m pro self meta as a tactic.

You are also pro "let's make a wacky claim as either alignment and then just enjoy the shitstorm", right? :roll:

I'm off to bed, but looking forward to drinking my monday morning coffee with a side of juicy and spicy Mafiascum..

Brother that's me as well. Love that for us, but for me it's usually for a very good reason and it's not just for chaos.

EBWOP (or perhaps a freudian slip)

[Gamma Emerald]

Were u busy gamma? Why didnt you bring this up yourself i was wondering?

Brain slow

[Gamma Emerald]

I

crumbed my role like CRAZY in that game as well.
I got to slip in some talk of Universal monster-movies or something. Talked about a TUB in some context and all..oh the times.

A

nd yet..somebody..was able to convince people to not trust me and discredited my crumbs even though I had a very clear cut and consistent

m

eta of doing it back then.

W

ouldn't do it nowadays - mainly because I've gotten a bit lazy crafting secret messages for the future. Especially since most people are not going to believe them anyway.

W

h well.

Why would you do this?!?!?!?
VOTE: The Bulge

Did your read on Hu Tao change?

How does that correlate?