Open 887: Coalition of Frogs (Game Over)

[Ausuka]

Votecount 1.12

It is currently the Elimination Phase. With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to confirm a coalition. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-10-11 14:11:19).

Elimination Votes

Save the Dragons (3)

- implosion, Merlyn, Hero at Heart

implosion (3)

- Save the Dragons, Doctor Drew, RH9

Not Voting (3)

- Aristeia, Bellaphant, TheHoldSteady

Flavour

[Merlyn]

aw man, she got the pagetop anyway

[implosion]

because it feels like there's too many people twiddling their thumbs on the sidelines and their votes are on irrelevant people[THS,Bella] and that's sometimes a sign that scum are fine with the current choices/dichotomy in the game and kind of just hoping someone gets offed.

This logic only really applies if one of THS/Bella is scum, right?

i don't really understand how you went from datisi is 99% town to oh he's the bad guy now

I feel like this is sort of weird but the trajectory still makes sense to me as coming from town, like they were convinced on Datisi and then there was sentiment that changed their mind over time? I do want to hear their response to this though

[implosion]

I don't really see myself voting anyone other than STD still unless tides change significantly. I still think we lim on coalition and I think Ari stepping back to re-evaluate is probably +town. I guess I can be convinced on Bella but even if my reasons to townread her aren't that great (and i'm not sure atm) I don't really see good reasons to lim her over STD. STD's play right now is sort of weird from scum because he's not like, doing anything other than just calling me scum and I don't know why that's the case, but I feel like if you're town at E-1 in this game you'd have something more to say than that.

[Aristeia]

ari, why?

because it feels like there's too many people twiddling their thumbs on the sidelines and their votes are on irrelevant people[THS,Bella] and that's sometimes a sign that scum are fine with the current choices/dichotomy in the game and kind of just hoping someone gets offed.

and I reread some of datisi's early posting and didn't feel great about thinking he's mafia.

STD is still bleh but I don't feel great about just mailing it in

Your thinking is very similar to my own, but where are you ending up? If you're saying that we should be wary of the current choices, you mean std and implo I assume. So who are you wanting to vote for instead?

i don't know - I am waiting for std/hero to answer me atp

[Aristeia]

This logic only really applies if one of THS/Bella is scum, right?

yea

[Bellaphant]

I agree with implo, again

[Hero at Heart]

hi, just a heads up: i won't be very available today, but since i do know the deadline is nearing, i will try to engage a bit sometime later today.

since i do have a few minutes right now, let me just answer ari's question regarding me flipping my read on std:

well, idk. maybe i'm wrong. but basically you know what implo said about my tr of datisi making sense if i've never played with scumtisi? well after the coalition failed i thought about that, and because i was sr'ing std for lying about the hammer (at least i think it's a lie, it might be wrong), i read datisi's iso. and i kinda realized that it's the kind of iso that if you read thinking datisi is town, it would look very towny, but if you read it thinking he's potentially scum, everything is actually fakeable.

idk if any of this makes sense so please don't hate on me if it doesn't but that's how i got to that read anyway.

[Hero at Heart]

because it feels like there's too many people twiddling their thumbs on the sidelines and their votes are on irrelevant people[THS,Bella] and that's sometimes a sign that scum are fine with the current choices/dichotomy in the game and kind of just hoping someone gets offed.

This logic only really applies if one of THS/Bella is scum, right?

i don't really understand how you went from datisi is 99% town to oh he's the bad guy now

I feel like this is sort of weird but the trajectory still makes sense to me as coming from town, like they were convinced on Datisi and then there was sentiment that changed their mind over time? I do want to hear their response to this though

yeah basically

[Aristeia]

hero you know its ok to just say you dont know if you dont know right

[Aristeia]

I agree with implo, again

what are you agreeing with implo about?

[Hero at Heart]

hero you know its ok to just say you dont know if you dont know right

apparently i don't know what

[Bellaphant]

728 specifically.

[Bellaphant]

Im going to read dats with ths iso lager

[TheHoldSteady]

VOTE: Save the Dragons for reasons already outlined....

[TheHoldSteady]

E-1

[TheHoldSteady]

I think if this is town, look at Bella or Hero tomorrow, if this is scum, probably lim RH9?

[Bellaphant]

Are you just not going to respond to me?

[Bellaphant]

Three posts on the last page I'm expecting a response to.

[Hero at Heart]

idk why but THS's vote gives me a foreboding

UNVOTE:

this is a temporary unvote - i want to sit and analyze everything before i re-vote

[TheHoldSteady]

Are you just not going to respond to me?

Yeah

[Hero at Heart]

why?

[TheHoldSteady]

Am I supposed to explain to the person I think could be scum why I think they're scum? Or waste time and energy explaining my progression on Drew and Merlyn when I don't really think it matters right now and you can just read my ISO? Ask me something that actually benefits us to answer and I'll try my best

[Bellaphant]

It's fairly obvious I don't understand why you think I'm scum, mainly because you ...you know, you won't talk to me?

Your progression on drew makes no sense, therfor I think it's scummy..

[TheHoldSteady]

My progression on Drew makes perfect sense. Reread my ISO. See I don't think you're defending the way a town would. You're redirecting and discrediting instead of addressing what's at hand