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Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:40 pm

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In post 1217, camelCasedSnivy wrote: if we assume theres one scum on abnegation wagon that means one of you/black

which i can agree

i don't think black is scum and even if i did i doubt whoever are the other 2 townies would vote black with me so you seem like a good pick
idrk what you are saying here snivy
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Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:42 pm

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In post 1216, Dannflor wrote: if you can believe im town

Black’s D1 wagon was all town

that doesn’t mean anything necessarily but
actually if the driving forces of that were me/generic I think scum can easily steer clear of that wagon in a town!Black world
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Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:43 pm

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Black I don't know why you think a meowmeow/dannflor team would have meowmeow hard bus me D1 to E-1 and me hard town read her all the while
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Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:44 pm

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tbh i think if meowmeow is scum she can only be teamed with iavh/freedom
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Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:46 pm

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i dont like how ive been a null or scum slot for most of the game and now I'm being townread as if scum know I'm about to make the wrong choice
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Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:47 pm

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well i don't know why i'd be expecting you to vote anyone other than me snivy
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Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:47 pm

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my paranoia is in full drive
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Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:49 pm

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i won’t have time to really play mafia for another few hours so please no one like vote or anything in the mean time
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Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:50 pm

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In post 1227, Dannflor wrote: Black I don't know why you think a meowmeow/dannflor team would have meowmeow hard bus me D1 to E-1 and me hard town read her all the while
I haven't gotten the chance to look over your interactions to see if they make sense as a pair, I'm pretty much going off of gut
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Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:51 pm

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ok
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Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:52 pm

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I'm off to bed but I'll have time tomorrow to make a more educated guess
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Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:20 pm

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I'm busy today.
I'll post more later.
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Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:48 pm

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In post 1222, Black wrote:
In post 1213, meowmeow wrote: fwiw i was thinking aureal was the tracker d2 starting with how she responded to snivy's whole thing and then i ctrl+f'd her iso for 'track' and saw a hit and i was like mm ok

i wasn't super duper confident in that and thought it was even possible aureal was just scum but it was the line of thinking i was going down when i wrote that post - i was trying to tell aureal like, if you're the tracker, go ahead and track me because i do not feel like dealing with this bullshit

afterwards i realised i fucked up
and tried to draw the nightkill and pretend to be the tracker because that was the only thing i could see working. obviously it didn't - i imagine scum would have planned to cc me if i was actually the tracker regardless.

i mean it was a stupid post to make and i need to learn more from my scum game when playing town tbh. i'm not sure what other people's reads are but i am not getting the sense it will be very likely to win this game which is mostly my fault
I'm not really buying this tbh

I don't think town!meow considers a "fuck up" but I think scum!meow does. It's not like she outed who she thinks the tracker is, she just made it seem like she knew there was one. Why would town!meow's first thought be "oh I fucked up"

In post 1214, meowmeow wrote: i do want to question why black thought it was a scumslip at first rather than possibly a tracker-slip

i thought dannflor's reaction was more natural
I don't think a "tracker slip" would involve you telling someone to track you
... why would i not care about the idea of getting miseliminated. i'm not stupid, i knew if abnegation flips town it's elo immediately afterwards. this makes negative sense to me.

i mean, presumably the whole point was that it looked like tmi that a tracker exists, so why wouldn't me being a tracker be a possibility there? this is a nice line to use in an argument but it makes absolutely no sense in context - i specifically said like if i'm the tracker i would be confirmed town and track aureal.
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Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:49 pm

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i guess there is a certain type of town player that thinks like

oh town should be super cavalier and never care about surviving and anyone who even shows any awareness of their own situation is scum

idk if black is really that kind of player though.
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Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:50 pm

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In post 1227, Dannflor wrote: Black I don't know why you think a meowmeow/dannflor team would have meowmeow hard bus me D1 to E-1 and me hard town read her all the while
also this? i think me and dannflor are pretty blatantly not teamed
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Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:52 pm

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snivy's entrance into the day is probably +town unless maybe teamed with dannflor specifically

snivy/dannflor was kind of what i thought on d2 anyway but it's pretty rare that i get to elo and my previous reads were actually just entirely correct i guess

obviously i don't like black's handling of this whole situation and the freedom slot has done like nothing all game?

i probably just need to sit down and think about this at some point because my thoughts are not very organised
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Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:55 pm

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meowmeow can you explain what you meant by you need to take some lessons from your scum game?
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Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:18 pm

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i know some people are like somewhat manipulative as town and play town with their image strongly in mind a lot, particularly people with strong scumgames

i don't know how strong my scumgame is but i think it's definitely better than my towngame and if i were more self conscious i would, uh, say less things that make me get scumread lol
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Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:22 pm

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In post 1237, meowmeow wrote: ... why would i not care about the idea of getting miseliminated. i'm not stupid, i knew if abnegation flips town it's elo immediately afterwards. this makes negative sense to me.

i mean, presumably the whole point was that it looked like tmi that a tracker exists, so why wouldn't me being a tracker be a possibility there? this is a nice line to use in an argument but it makes absolutely no sense in context - i specifically said like if i'm the tracker i would be confirmed town and track aureal
So basically you're saying you were afraid to get misfaded because your tracker comment seemed informed. If that's true then why am I so suspicious for thinking it was a scum slip?
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Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:25 pm

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In post 1239, meowmeow wrote:
In post 1227, Dannflor wrote: Black I don't know why you think a meowmeow/dannflor team would have meowmeow hard bus me D1 to E-1 and me hard town read her all the while
also this? i think me and dannflor are pretty blatantly not teamed
I'm going to look at this later because I admit I'm not sure how likely the pairing is based on posts but I wouldn't mind hearing in your own words why you think it's so blatant
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Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:27 pm

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rereading the early game and i would be very impressed if ccgeek and black was scum/scum
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Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:28 pm

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In post 1240, meowmeow wrote: obviously i don't like black's handling of this whole situation
What is my motive here if I'm scum? This is probably wifom but wouldn't it make more sense for me to push a Dann/Freedom solve? I already thought it could be them earlier and Freedom is clearly less likely to put up a fight here. I feel like I would just be making things harder for myself if I were scum
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Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:29 pm

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Oh hi Dann. Can't sleep? Or is this a time zone diff
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Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:30 pm

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no it’s 2:30 am

prime time to try and solve this game
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Post Post #1249 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:32 pm

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Ah you're a West coast boy. It's 4:31 here and I just woke up from a nightmare. I watched The Thing last night XD

I'm on mobile in bed though so not quite prime condition to solve the game
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