Mini Normal 2314 - The Mafia Have a Cop [END]

[Hu Tao]

hu tao why does it feel like you are scum reading me for the same reasons you scum read me in the mini normal that just ended

That’s really the problem I’ve been having here

Yeah I wanted to say. I've been wrong on you before, and thats a fair take. Which is why I was sort of townreading you in the beginning this game. But I think you're playing differently this game than that last game.

What about it feels different to you?

Remember how last game I said you were playing differently? This game you're different to that as well do you purposely try to do different playstyles every game or am I looking into it too much?

[Flavor Leaf]

the 3rd is hidden, but Gamma/Marci is seeming likely for me.

[Alisae]

V OTECOUNT 1.20
E LIMINATION V OTES
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES
Dannflor (6)	The Bulge, Nono, geraintm, Hu Tao, Gamma Emerald, marcistar
Hu Tao (5)	UnaBombaH, Flavor Leaf, Doctor Drew, Dannflor, Roden
The Bulge (1)	jjh927
Doctor Drew (1)	Firebringer
NOT VOTING:
With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to flip! Deadline: (expired on 2023-10-20 19:33:00)
Notes: if you see any errors in votecounts let me know! Fire is V/LA until 10/21

[Flavor Leaf]

Geraint, Nono, JJh probably has the 3rd. JJh is paranoia of deep wolf more than actually seeing them as scum, but idk if im gonna be able to drop that paranoia, and i dont really think jjh and marci is scum/scum. tinfoiled it earlier, but idk.

[Flavor Leaf]

like, imo, does it make sense Hu Tao is town here? sure.

but I just dont see Dann as scum here. That wagon is scum infested, i might even believe 3 scum are on that wagon. not entirely sure of that, but i dannflor doesn't come after me the way they did earlier as scum in the position they were in.

and it just kinda fits with Gamma backing me up on Xerg slot earlier in the game.

I would say Gamma is almost always scum here.

[Flavor Leaf]

they're playing well, but like, I can see it pretty clearly, but I couldn't at first.

[Gamma Emerald]

So what, I was supposed to not pull the thread of Hu’s Dann read while the iron was hot?

Why do you trust Hu's read on Dann?

Why are so nonchalant about now just wanting a flip, when the Bulge flip was literally about to happen.....the iron was scorching hot there and you would have had what you so desire right now......and we could have saved ourselves some time.

I didn’t at the time
You’re not getting what I am trying to say and it’s too much work to clarify rn

I am all ears.

I’ll start by saying when I said the iron was hot I meant the deadline pressure and existing votes felt like a good chance to see how legit Hu was with the Dann read

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm already feeling good about certain slots this early.

VOTE: Gamma

to me this vote seems like sheeping trs onto the beeg wagon so that they dont have to take responsibility themselves

but like

idk i feel like gammas pretty scummy
so idk if this would be an aligned interaction or not

check their ISOs.

It's totally Gamma and Marcistar.

[Gamma Emerald]

I could see Gamma as scum here playing from the side lines of the inner circle.

If I’m playing from the sidelines of the inner circle I’m far more likely to be town. As scum I either root in deep or sit firmly outside.

[Flavor Leaf]

I called it out way earlier too and then they played around it.

...

VOTE: Gamma

E-1

UNVOTE:

UNVOTE: Gamma
VOTE: Xegarus

I got like 3 reasons for this.

I wanna find out if they're scum trying to keep me on the table, or if they're just townie with a big ol stick.
I wanna move off Gamma.
I want to relieve pressure off Gamma and pushing back at Xeg likely moves their vote onto me.

I FUCKEDD UP WITH MY ULT NOOO

WOW WTF U GOT ME ALL WORRIED ABT GAMMA FPOR NO REASON

ah damn, are Marci and Gamma scum together? Could just be Marci white knight.

gonna avoid that thought for now because it's just paranoia, but i got big pings from that marci. looks like a performance, but i can see them posting like that as town.

And im kinda okay letting others solve for Marci.

[Flavor Leaf]

I could see Gamma as scum here playing from the side lines of the inner circle.

If I’m playing from the sidelines of the inner circle I’m far more likely to be town. As scum I either root in deep or sit firmly outside.

would you say you're playing from the sidelines of the inner circle here and my analysis is correct on that spot at least, or do you disagree you are playing from the sidelines of the inner circle?

[Flavor Leaf]

but i need it out there in the case i end up in elo with you for my own reminder

do you want our signatures too for that famous "i told ya so"?

what do u think about hu tao

I'm already feeling good about certain slots this early.

VOTE: Gamma

to me this vote seems like sheeping trs onto the beeg wagon so that they dont have to take responsibility themselves

but like

idk i feel like gammas pretty scummy
so idk if this would be an aligned interaction or not

Hu Tao fine. I thought they were the best one on Gamma really, and I did like how they handled the miller claim

i can usually sus Hu Tao out if they're scum, so I'm happy to just town read them until something big pings me

this back and forth is Marci trying to move off of Gamma, but keeping a sus there.

It's fake.
They tried to move me onto Hu Tao too because Hu Tao was voting Gamma.

[Gamma Emerald]

if Hu tao is town, Gamma's play does look kinda warlocky trying to get Hu Tao to push townies.

This does not look real. You realize I actually tried to workshop a treaty with Hu Tao? I don’t see how you look at me and my Hu Tao progression and call it warlocking.

[Gamma Emerald]

I could see Gamma as scum here playing from the side lines of the inner circle.

If I’m playing from the sidelines of the inner circle I’m far more likely to be town. As scum I either root in deep or sit firmly outside.

would you say you're playing from the sidelines of the inner circle here and my analysis is correct on that spot at least, or do you disagree you are playing from the sidelines of the inner circle?

Well I don’t even have a good idea of who the inner circle is. So you need to define that first.

[Flavor Leaf]

maybe Una's their partner, and thats why Una got stuck tunneling Gamma.

Idk. I'm not trying to full team solve right here.

I just think there's a lot of merit to Gamma being scum, and Dann being town here. I think both these wagons are probably on town, and scum sitting waiting for it to go through.

Either that, or Hu tao scum, but I think Gamma over Hu Tao as scum, and probably not aligned. Makes more sense Gamma trying to warlock Hu Tao.

[Flavor Leaf]

if Hu tao is town, Gamma's play does look kinda warlocky trying to get Hu Tao to push townies.

This does not look real. You realize I actually tried to workshop a treaty with Hu Tao? I don’t see how you look at me and my Hu Tao progression and call it warlocking.

Yep. This is scum Gamma.

I'm probably not wording it correctly at all, and there really isn't a major case, and maybe it isn't warlocking.

But your dynamic with Tu Tao is ScumGamma.

"This does not look real." is where you go with this. Why would I push something that isn't real like that? Even as scum, I like to steep in stuff like that, so I wouldn't push it if I couldn't warrant it as scum. This is a discredit tactic, exactly what you gotta do here.

[Flavor Leaf]

my mental break from this game paid off and let me see things from the outside.

[Gamma Emerald]

Nope, fucking kill this clown.

[Flavor Leaf]

lol ya, gamma scum for sure

[Gamma Emerald]

If you promise me to vote out Flavor Leaf tomorrow I will self-vote

[Flavor Leaf]

go for it.

im vanilla and obv af disinterested town

[Gamma Emerald]

if Hu tao is town, Gamma's play does look kinda warlocky trying to get Hu Tao to push townies.

This does not look real. You realize I actually tried to workshop a treaty with Hu Tao? I don’t see how you look at me and my Hu Tao progression and call it warlocking.

Yep. This is scum Gamma.

I'm probably not wording it correctly at all, and there really isn't a major case, and maybe it isn't warlocking.

But your dynamic with Tu Tao is ScumGamma.

"This does not look real." is where you go with this. Why would I push something that isn't real like that? Even as scum, I like to steep in stuff like that, so I wouldn't push it if I couldn't warrant it as scum. This is a discredit tactic, exactly what you gotta do here.

There is a 0% chance you actually believe I never do this as town. DIE.

[Flavor Leaf]

if Hu tao is town, Gamma's play does look kinda warlocky trying to get Hu Tao to push townies.

This does not look real. You realize I actually tried to workshop a treaty with Hu Tao? I don’t see how you look at me and my Hu Tao progression and call it warlocking.

Yep. This is scum Gamma.

I'm probably not wording it correctly at all, and there really isn't a major case, and maybe it isn't warlocking.

But your dynamic with Tu Tao is ScumGamma.

"This does not look real." is where you go with this. Why would I push something that isn't real like that? Even as scum, I like to steep in stuff like that, so I wouldn't push it if I couldn't warrant it as scum. This is a discredit tactic, exactly what you gotta do here.

There is a 0% chance you actually believe I never do this as town. DIE.

i mean it's day 1, it's not that i never believe you do,

i think you're the best chance of flipping scum. I would say around 65% here, and that's killer for Day 1.

[Flavor Leaf]

you're now also trying to twist it.

why dont you vote me Gamma if you think im scum

[Gamma Emerald]

You still should know fucking better.
And I’m not voting you because there is zero traction on you and I think getting a lim to happen is important here