Open 889 | Secrets of the Anuket Topaz | fin.

[Firebringer]

andres have u played with shirou ever before?

[Andresvmb]

I can’t recall playing with them, no.

[Prism]

My vote and strongest SR is Shirou. You’re the one who is wrong.

I am very aware and have been since post 1. It is impressive what you are managing to read into 2021.

Do you really want to keep doing this? I wished you a good night and was sincere in it.

[Andresvmb]

I’ve played with you, Dragons, T3, Alisae, Ydrasse, jjh, and Titus before, and obviously some of you several times.

[Prism]

did u have fun at the festitivites prism

Time of my life and a very pleasant surprise despite my exhaustion, thank you for asking.

[Prism]

I interrupted your read, just go finish.

[Andresvmb]

My vote and strongest SR is Shirou. You’re the one who is wrong.

I am very aware and have been since post 1. It is impressive what you are managing to read into 2021.

Do you really want to keep doing this? I wished you a good night and was sincere in it.

You’re being so obnoxious I will slot you as Town and stop this interaction. Go for the discredit all you want and ignore flipped Town. You do you. When the game is over we can compare notes to see what actually happened. And if you’re Scum good for you for demotivating me into TR’ing you.

[Firebringer]

I can’t recall playing with them, no.

hmhmmmhmmm

i was gonna give u meta hw to do.
but that be too much.

I don't think this is at all similar to a shirou scum. shirou has a lot of confidence in his reads when he thinks he is onto something. Especially as town, if anything feigning to be grounded or being what i would call ~reasonable~ is a scum tell for shirou. (don't tell him he might start death tunneling harder as scum now). shirou is loud, performative, hyperactive and a tunneler.

shirou can lose confidence himself in games but usually as town he is very confident in the beginning to middle of game until he starts getting paranoid which will get progressively worse depending on how town is performing. And again, I don't think scum shirou is as good at replicating this.

point is, i will eat my hat if shirou is scum

[Andresvmb]

andres is probably town yes good good
snivy moving vote to andre's slot is bad

why is andres town

I’ll agree with you STD that I couldn’t possibly be thought of as strong Town based on my early posts. You could probably get to null Town or if you think my lack of activity was Scummy, maybe null Scum. What I don’t understand is why I was your strongest SR. That just seems bizarre to me.

[Prism]

Firebringer, please trade me role PMs.

[Firebringer]

only if its red

[Prism]

I'm going to actually close the laptop and sleep since I'm at probably ~8 hours across 3 nights but think on it.

I do appreciate you even as my suspicion rises.

[Firebringer]

night prism!

[Andresvmb]

I can’t recall playing with them, no.

hmhmmmhmmm

i was gonna give u meta hw to do.
but that be too much.

I don't think this is at all similar to a shirou scum. shirou has a lot of confidence in his reads when he thinks he is onto something. Especially as town, if anything feigning to be grounded or being what i would call ~reasonable~ is a scum tell for shirou. (don't tell him he might start death tunneling harder as scum now). shirou is loud, performative, hyperactive and a tunneler.

shirou can lose confidence himself in games but usually as town he is very confident in the beginning to middle of game until he starts getting paranoid which will get progressively worse depending on how town is performing. And again, I don't think scum shirou is as good at replicating this.

point is, i will eat my hat if shirou is scum

Fascinating. I don’t rely much on meta unless I have a lot of background with a player because I think I can get to a half decent answer without it. I also don’t want to excuse a death tunnel of Town in a game with the mechanics that exist. But I’ll take what you’re saying into consideration.

Separate though, T3 really did drop substantially in engagement (look at me being a massive hypocrite) after being widely TR’ed at the beginning.

[Andresvmb]

I have to stop. I’ll read more in the morning.

[Andresvmb]

I think the mechanics make it important to try and force interactions and opinions regarding all players, so I’ll need to be more active than normal here. So I’ll do my best.

yeah this is a bit of a meme lol

Hahaha yeah… I can’t predict my schedule all the time, sorry.

[jjh927]

I think I am going to reread the game

[jjh927]

do not disturb crafting the

shirou contamination cube

WHAT?

THE ENEMY IS ALREADY WORKING TOWARDS ANTI-SHIROU WEAPONS?!

This war may be harder and longer than I initially thought...

Now you leave me with no choice other than to bamboozle my followers into believing that laying down their lives for my greedy ambitions is the most moral and objectively optimal thing to do!!!

This is pretty hype

[jjh927]

Note for future me when I wake up: gather poirot images from the mystery that involves the boat

This was very important but I didn't do it

[jjh927]

I have taken a break from my catchup to meta STD.

I am wondering if deflecting by complaining about how much scummier other slots are when he is getting wagoned may be a scumtell

[jjh927]

my reads right now are probably more this

{t3, ydrasse, jjh927, gob} these are my high confidence trs
{snivy, fire} these are my low confidence trs. they could be wrong but I don't think so.
{patchwork, prism} I am grasping at straws to tr them. These could definitely be wrong.
{andres, std, imaginality} this is my leftover pool
{Shirou} this is who I definitively think is mafia

I do find the concept of gasping at straws to TR as weird. Why would we need to grasp for TRs right now? I get forming a townblock but no point in forcing one.

[jjh927]

Look at how much activity the game has been picking up as Alisae wagon began to rise

Alisae herself only started being really active when voted

I don't know man, maybe I'm wrong, sorry if I'm to everyone (including Alisat potentially?), but this definitely feels like a scum wagon in a setup where scum doesn't want to get limmed early.

crazy amount of people trying to deflect this onto something else.

I don't think scum likes the current gamestate and I'm the main pusher of Alisae's wagon and I know I'm town, so I also know that out of all the possible reasons scum may want to change the current gamestate, my push doesn't have an agenda and isn't being very actively supported by anyone else.

People may be voting Alisae now, like Prism or Camel, but to some extent it also feels like a compromise for not being able to get traction on their own alternatives.

Ali feels like a wagon that people don't want to say "I don't support this at all" but at the same time don't want to say "I'm super committed to this".

Dunno, feels like a scum wagon.

You know, I don't think this was true. I don't think the Alisae wagon breathed life into the game in the way Shirou claims a whole bunch of times throughout the game

It just kinda happened, mainly with a load of slots that were posting or at least treading water while in the end leaving a load of stale slots at the end of the day

[jjh927]

Over halfway through the reread but stopping for now.

I think Imaginality putting Gob in the scumpile at that point was pretty wild and way more likely to come from town than scum based on the overall gamestate

Let's try this
VOTE: Camel

[Shirou]

i have never had a bad take ever, prism.

i am the best player ever in the history of this game.
i was divinely blessed some might say

Agreed.

The achievements that Firebringer's school of thought accomplished in this game are historically unprecedented.

He has managed to discover and pioneer a genius formula that attempts to extract the rare chemical elements called "Fun" (Fn) and "Joy" (Jo) from your average game of mafia. Something that not many people can claim to do as easily.

Checkmate, non-believers.

[Shirou]

My vote and strongest SR is Shirou.

You’re the one who is wrong.

You would be surprised.

I'm not going to argue with you on this right now though given I said I would shut up for a bit, but basically all your case on me is a set of behaviors which anyone that has played a game with me can acknowledge. If anything I show more of those set of behaviors when I'm town than scum because as scum I'm aware that they can lead to suspicious just like here (and it's kinda bothersome to fake it in your average game of mafia).