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[jjh927]

If there is ever a case for extremely sneaky and bad faith townplay in mafia as a game, it is day 2 of this setup

What do you exactly mean by this?

Are you trying to shade me...?

I mean saving an epic case for day 3 and straight up manipulating one's own reads in order to deceive scum into not escaping would be a hell of a play

[Shirou]

I think this JJH's post is also a bit inconsistent:

Shirou has been a fairly consistent scumread for me across the game but the reasons have changed tbh

At this point, I think if STD is town, Shirou is definitely scum

- because that would mean Shirou literally spent all of day 1 leading wagons on different town players. If STD is scum I can still see it but the execution takes a higher level of scum skill which I am fairly confident Shirou has

He says as if he thinks there's one scum among me/StD but in other posts it seemed more like he thought me and StD were likely partnered. Even if he says that the mathematical odds of me being scum increase if StD isn't scum, I don't feel like thinking StD flipping town means I'm "definitely" scum meshes well with also having a view that I'm likely partnered with StD:

Patchwork just looks like disengaged scum to me

I guess posting the list gives STD an opportunity to do something without being pushed to do it which is probably going to be a better circumstance than if I had gone with the vote plan, because the main STD issue is the lack of anything other than being pushed

Shirou I think has had super non-committal opinions especially on those two slots at the bottom of my list

Scum are definitely distancing then but also probably not up to hard bus.

I think if we pick out people that had pet scum reads they didn't really pursue that much it may lead us to somewhere interesting.

I also think this setup is ridiculously town sided.

Btw, this is why I very much dislike your overall stance on STD across the game

[Firebringer]

I don't want to elim titus right now

[Firebringer]

like yes, if she is scum she is going to leave but like....i kind of dont care

[Shirou]

If there is ever a case for extremely sneaky and bad faith townplay in mafia as a game, it is day 2 of this setup

What do you exactly mean by this?

Are you trying to shade me...?

I mean saving an epic case for day 3 and straight up manipulating one's own reads in order to deceive scum into not escaping would be a hell of a play

Damn, if Titus is actually scum that would look so cool yeah. However I would still not attempt it here most likely because:

A) I've been slacking and my reputation atm isn't that great to pull even more crazy stuff
B) Titus could escape if I tried to redirect the wagon from her right now and it would just be giving a free mislim to scum if that happened given I would be suspected next

[jjh927]

You mean 1899, a post in which I say things have changed since early game, doesn't say the same thing as 623, a post in early game

[Shirou]

I don't want to elim titus right now

like yes, if she is scum she is going to leave but like....i kind of dont care

[Shirou]

You mean 1899, a post in which I say things have changed since early game, doesn't say the same thing as 623, a post in early game

in 2136 you still talk as if you hold the same views

you don't talk as if it's something in the past

[Firebringer]

waiting for u to get me to care shirou

[jjh927]

You mean 1899, a post in which I say things have changed since early game, doesn't say the same thing as 623, a post in early game

in 2136 you still talk as if you hold the same views

you don't talk as if it's something in the past

I mean, it's true that I still don't like your approach to STD

[Shirou]

Firebringer you're so cute.

Are you trying to make me tunnel you harder regardless of Titus' alignment?

Do you think/acknowledge what I posted is damning for Titus or not?

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Shirou

[jjh927]

I wouldn't stand by 1899 at all any more anyway

[Shirou]

VOTE: Shirou

[jjh927]

VOTE: Shirou

Fire you are the number 1 reason that Shirou is out of my scumpile

This is a huge turnaround so what is up

[Shirou]

I cannot understand if:

1) Titus is town and Fire may or not be scum trolling me
2) Titus is scum and Fire is also scum and this is an attempt at trolling me
3) Titus is scum and Fire is town and he's still just trying to troll me or get a reaction out of me

[Ydrasse]

popcorn gif or something i dont even have the energy anymore to deal with this

[Firebringer]

i think if shirou actually scumread me he would be much louder about it if so, the fact he isn't and just fucking around is actually concerning me.
so his scumread on me looks like he just made it up to placate my concerns about how he always scumreads me without having to do the effort of actually replicating his town behavior of vigorously going after me.

[Shirou]

How am I fucking around? I had started to post my case on Titus and said you were a likely partner

There's no way I go after you before Titus given what I posted above

Titus sounds guaranteed, you don't especially if somehow Titus isn't scum

[Shirou]

Although I think you also fit a scum!Imaginality scenario...

[Firebringer]

ur case on me and titus aligned because I just said that i didn't want to vote titus?
U said i was scum way before i stopped voting titus.

U don't even have events right here buddy

[Shirou]

In fact.

In our last game together where I was town and you were scum, I spent a lot of the game suspecting you but never *quite* going for your head and you ended up endgaming me.

So what are you talking about?

My main scum read right now is clearly Titus and that's who I would want to focus especially now that I know as a fact I'm gonna be around for D3.

[Shirou]

ur case on me and titus aligned because I just said that i didn't want to vote titus?
U said i was scum way before i stopped voting titus.

U don't even have events right here buddy

No?

My case on why you may be aligned with Titus comes from how you stubbornly wanted to vote Titus much like you were adamant about wanting to vote your partner Andante in our last game together.

But that's just one of the reasons, like I said and you also said, I was already suspecting you before that. Partially because I think most slots are townier than you, partially because I don't feel town vibes from you really.

[Firebringer]

In fact.

In our last game together where I was town and you were scum, I spent a lot of the game suspecting you but never *quite* going for your head and you ended up endgaming me.

So what are you talking about?

My main scum read right now is clearly Titus and that's who I would want to focus especially now that I know as a fact I'm gonna be around for D3.

yeah and you had reasons you talked about throughout the whole game. Here ur just joking around, and also to add onto this to prove my point, the reason you didn't death tunnel me in those was you had a bigger person to focus on. Yet here, your doing nothing until just now and ur focused on Titus.

Now ur making up reasons why me and titus are aligned because i just now said I don't want to vote Titus. Awfully conveniant.

[Shirou]

I also believe you did the whole "If Shirou is pushing someone they're likely town" schtick when you were scum against me and I was tunneling that townie in D1

This post also felt a bit weird coming from you:

snivy that better not be hammer

I guess I don't have a big chungus case/reason on you like on Titus/Imaginality, but you being scum simply started to make sense to me at some point in D2 yeah. I don't think I'm alone on that impression.

p-edit: What?

Don't twist story I said you may be Titus partner before you ever decided to not vote.