Mini Normal 2314 - The Mafia Have a Cop [END]

[Doctor Drew]

You know what.

Lazy Traitor Backup Mailman is a solid role for scum in this game because if Mailman were to die, then scum get to message their team, but only after. I just kind of like that as a mechanic, havent looked into FB to see if they'd be traitor.

Drew claims a Cop role in a game where Mafia have a Cop? I dont see it. I really don't.

What is so weird to you about that? There also was the potential for multiples PT's(and if the mason claims are to be believed then there are currently three PT's, if Marci was still alive potentially even more). And makes sense that the PT Cop would be in one of the PT's and was only 1 shot on N1 since multiple uses and/or using it later in the game could have really muddied the waters.

Was gonna catch up, but today feels like a lazy day so ig not

lazy traitor?

Wasn't there some blowback post game of that Bianco normal where they had a lazy traitor?

Also if I am reading you correctly, you think Fire is the traitor right? Shouldn't we be aiming for actual scum?

Pre Edit: Una's claim still doesn't sit right with me, like the message specifically said that they could deduce my alignment....but then they just say it was all for lulz??

[Firebringer]

I think the scum!Cop has to be either in the Vanilla claims, or FB with that disgusting Backup-claim.

if i was scum i would just fake claim something and i fake claim all the time as scum. why would i claim backup mailman in this game as scum una? I already stated i think mailman is a scummy role.

So pretending im scum because im a backupmailman when u also have that role is lol.

[Firebringer]

its funny the one time i am on board with una is scum, flavor is gung ho about it him not being scum and that it definitely has to be me lolololol
Ironic or something

[Doctor Drew]

A tracker would have been nice for this night phase if don't nail scum here.

[Firebringer]

dann i don't think i have to point this out to u but do not babysit flavor leaf, obviously you babysit one of the masons.

[Flavor Leaf]

NEVER babysit one of the masons.

If one of the masons die by night kill that is a good thing

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s Nono-Hu Tao or a combination of Drew-Fire-Dann imo.

Its not nono-hua so now ur being silly

If you read up, I have said many times I am inclined to believe the masons, so this isn’t a good look

[Firebringer]

you say a lot of different things at once

[Doctor Drew]

you say a lot of different things at once

Are you suggesting scumFlavor?

[Flavor Leaf]

Absolutely never Babysit a Mason here. If one of them die, we have a confirmed townie.

If none of them die, they still will have the WIFOM, and scum still have to fight against it.

[Firebringer]

you say a lot of different things at once

Are you suggesting scumFlavor?

no he is town

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, I dunked Marci as their partner tunneling them from Day 1 only to kill JJH and STILL go through pushing Marci when Drew, Fire, Hu Tao, and Nono were all trying to give them a pass to go on.

I’m giving scum a chance to take Dann and myself out by killing Dann. You need to warrant Dann being taken out on a misfade possibility and limit options, not go on a Mason.

[Firebringer]

i mean i guess theres possibility he used marci as jumping of board for towncred and then is tunneling me and trying to ensure masons are unprotected but like im not going to go down rabbit holes i think the game is pretty simply in dann/una/bulge

[Firebringer]

Yeah, I dunked Marci as their partner tunneling them from Day 1 only to kill JJH and STILL go through pushing Marci when Drew, Fire, Hu Tao, and Nono were all trying to give them a pass to go on.

i don't know if u tunneled marci at all, and i was the one who suggested we switch to marci at end of the day one day 1. So ur rewriting history here

[Doctor Drew]

Yeah, I dunked Marci as their partner tunneling them from Day 1 only to kill JJH and STILL go through pushing Marci when Drew, Fire, Hu Tao, and Nono were all trying to give them a pass to go on.

I’m giving scum a chance to take Dann and myself out by killing Dann. You need to warrant Dann being taken out on a misfade possibility and limit options, not go on a Mason.

Glad you brought up one thing I kept forgetting about, I made one post saying that worst case I could figure Marci out in our hood.....but quickly changed tunes.

I literally was in the process of figuring out the night actions that I was a target of.

You are acting like I wanted stear votes away from her.

[Firebringer]

I just did iso of flavor, so i see her calling her scum but he never voted her until i started the end of day wagon

[Firebringer]

him calling her scum*

[Flavor Leaf]

I just did iso of flavor, so i see her calling her scum but he never voted her until i started the end of day wagon

I was yelling at Marci to claim early in day 1,and yall were going “let it resolve let it resolve”

fuck letting things resolve, that lets scum go free

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, I dunked Marci as their partner tunneling them from Day 1 only to kill JJH and STILL go through pushing Marci when Drew, Fire, Hu Tao, and Nono were all trying to give them a pass to go on.

I’m giving scum a chance to take Dann and myself out by killing Dann. You need to warrant Dann being taken out on a misfade possibility and limit options, not go on a Mason.

Glad you brought up one thing I kept forgetting about, I made one post saying that worst case I could figure Marci out in our hood.....but quickly changed tunes.

I literally was in the process of figuring out the night actions that I was a target of.

You are acting like I wanted stear votes away from her.

I’ll give ya that, you just all just voted together if i remember correctly.

But it’s still the same.

Roden and I called Marci the hell out because it just felt obvious at that point

[Doctor Drew]

I just did iso of flavor, so i see her calling her scum but he never voted her until i started the end of day wagon

I was yelling at Marci to claim early in day 1,and yall were going “let it resolve let it resolve”

fuck letting things resolve, that lets scum go free

And I will give you that lol.

You can't really negotiate with a terrorist

[UnaBombaH]

I am not a bad scum player, or a bad teammate, and the way I discredited marci for softclaiming ~something + constantly mocking the odds of them being able to clear themselves by D2 would've been very shitty from a scum!teammate.
Especially since I wouldn't have been able to discuss this with them before/realtime since we know there is no daytalk.
The only reason I didn't want them D1 after was because it's just "right" to give anyone claiming something like that a chance to prove it. Maybe try and force the scums hand with the NK if theres no roleblocking etc. But come D2 it was always them.

[UnaBombaH]

I can also see why town!Drew might have a personal reason to dislike my claim/action because they were a target of it, but I also think calling it scum is silly.

1) I clearly tried/wanted to use that action for something and got annoyed when Drew avoided engaging in the interactions and the day ended with the gambit/claim unresolved

2) I would've, for no actual reason, muddied the interaction between Drew and marci with the later wanting to do ~something with their claim/role.
Again, being a very sucky teammate.

3) I am willing to go through my whole logic with the message if need be, but it was literally worded and formatted with the idea of forcing scum!Drew into a situation where they'd need to ALONE decide whether to admit to getting the message or not. If I was a town!Unloyal_Mailman they'd be basically scum-claiming. That is also why I legit TRIED to get them to talk about the scenarios, to see if they had spent any time thinking about the potential variations before hand.. And IMO they clearly hadn't.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, Una being confirmed not Traitor unless with Drew and being the Mailman imo muddied the water with Marci heavily.

I don’t see Una as scum here.

Drew as Traitor is possible?

Marci putting Dann to E-1 is good for Dann.

Bulge got saved if scum, that’s interesting if so, but i kinda just liked them not trying, and i felt that was genuine, but maybe i need to give that a second look.

I just have a hard time seeing Drew/Una killing Roden.

Roden TvT’d the two.

Fire said Roden was a weird kill, even though they thought Roden was obv town, so idk why that’s a weird kill.

[UnaBombaH]

I would've potentially "cleared" Drew in my head already if it wasn't for the fact that marci literally flipped unloyal scum.
Explaining why scum!Drew might've defaulted to not even considering a town!Disloyal role. (compared it to winning in lottery?)

[UnaBombaH]

The things that scumping me the most atm are the way our Masons claimed, Firebringer trying to push for scum!Una, and Drews claimed role being "all over the place" with a little of everything. Plus Drew now agreeing with FB.