In post 721, Gamma Emerald wrote:
The problem is your questions don’t feel very thoughtful, you seem to ask a lot of “why” questions that sometimes have answers already in-thread. That’s the first thing that bothered me, and then seeing you try to flip furtive’s response against him told me all I felt I needed to know.
What do you mean by trying to flip Furtive, why shouldn’t I try to ask questions. This is ridiculous. Because I ask why it’s not genuine?
Why are you even considering that as a scum tell is beyond me. Your whole reason to vote me rests on that alone?
In post 242, Meuh wrote:
Gamma vaguely looks town? I can see Broccoli town, at the very least I don't think they're scummy enough for me to be interested in a wagon there
VOTE: Titus
Don't think she has any interest in solving the game tbh
I don't see anything towny from GE prior to this post.
In post 242, Meuh wrote:
Gamma vaguely looks town? I can see Broccoli town, at the very least I don't think they're scummy enough for me to be interested in a wagon there
VOTE: Titus
Don't think she has any interest in solving the game tbh
In post 284, Aureal wrote:
*honks in confusion because she doesn't feel a strong differentiation between Ircher's meta dependent on his alignment and his terse play style tends to be read as scummy in general*
Agree with this, Ircher has always seemed scummy to me regardless of alignment. Not really sure what the right approach is.
I kind of think we need a flip at this point? Under the impression that night actions will be meaningful
This seems quite early in the day page-wise, +scum for me.
In post 497, furtiveglance wrote:
Setup: I'll probably just go on reads as usual rather than get too caught up in trying to outguess the mod/fall into setup spec pitfalls that are probably expected.
Broccoli Quest 2 - town.
HighPrincessErinys - town, agreed with a lot of posts here.
Doctor Drew - town by meta and direction of travel (i.e. agrees with my takes)
Hu Tao - town. Liked both streams of posts so far
Theta Alpine - town. A level of depth to posting about reads that I didn't see from scum!Rautherdir in Conception (hope talking about alt metas is ok)
Ircher - unsure. Scum by posts (as ever?) but town by VCA?
Andante - unsure. Not a priority vote at the moment but I am wary of what I saw as a scattergun approach to votes/scumreads.
Gamma Emerald - unsure. Wallflower act is meta typical but harder to read, hopefully GE gets into a more direct discussion at some point soon.
Titus - unsure. Tonally different from scumgame but voting is a little strange.
Aureal - unsure. Tonally seems town and just like past towngames but not packing enough of a punch to be a TR just yet.
Meuh - scum based on posting and voting. I don't get the TRs here at all.
Afrayed Knott - scum. Vote priority urgent.
these were the furtive posts I liked btw
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In post 721, Gamma Emerald wrote:
The problem is your questions don’t feel very thoughtful, you seem to ask a lot of “why” questions that sometimes have answers already in-thread. That’s the first thing that bothered me, and then seeing you try to flip furtive’s response against him told me all I felt I needed to know.
What do you mean by trying to flip Furtive, why shouldn’t I try to ask questions. This is ridiculous. Because I ask why it’s not genuine?
Why are you even considering that as a scum tell is beyond me. Your whole reason to vote me rests on that alone?
You’re misreading, I am saying you took furtive’s answer to your question and tried to make him look bad with it. Why should I allow you to do that to me? I think it’s better to make you work for it if you want to miselim me.
You can ask questions; you just should ask better questions.
I don’t think I’m voting you, last I recall my vote was still on Ircher?
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“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
Again, you hang on to a weak reason to vote. And yes I am asking you why I can’t ask questions. You really need to re evaluate your whole approach if that is all your voting is based on, weak accusations that someone is not being genuine.
Again I ask you show me where what I ask is not genuine, or where I am not genuinely engaged in the game. So don’t just point a finger and get all flustered because you can’t actually give an answer to a reasonable question.
In post 721, Gamma Emerald wrote:
The problem is your questions don’t feel very thoughtful, you seem to ask a lot of “why” questions that sometimes have answers already in-thread. That’s the first thing that bothered me, and then seeing you try to flip furtive’s response against him told me all I felt I needed to know.
What do you mean by trying to flip Furtive, why shouldn’t I try to ask questions. This is ridiculous. Because I ask why it’s not genuine?
Why are you even considering that as a scum tell is beyond me. Your whole reason to vote me rests on that alone?
You’re misreading, I am saying you took furtive’s answer to your question and tried to make him look bad with it. Why should I allow you to do that to me? I think it’s better to make you work for it if you want to miselim me.
You can ask questions; you just should ask better questions.
I don’t think I’m voting you, last I recall my vote was still on Ircher?
I tried to look him look bad? No I disagreed with his read as he is wrong. So yes I am going to call him out
In post 520, furtiveglance wrote:
'm wondering whether Ircher was just told by someone while at E-1 "hey can you start hard pushing Titus?". Just a theory, but I'd like to maybe get some comment from Ircher on this - was your initial vote's logic the same as given by Meuh (not solving)? Was there more at the time?
In post 520, furtiveglance wrote:
'm wondering whether Ircher was just told by someone while at E-1 "hey can you start hard pushing Titus?". Just a theory, but I'd like to maybe get some comment from Ircher on this - was your initial vote's logic the same as given by Meuh (not solving)? Was there more at the time?
how hard a theory, or just a fancy?
It's something I've been told as dying scum by teammates before - "hey can you start pushing/townreading x/y?". It would also explain the sudden massive push on Titus with only a single unexplained vote as precedent. Right now I think I'd prefer to eliminate not Ircher just because I have stronger scumreads (e.g. you).
In post 580, furtiveglance wrote:
It's something I've been told as dying scum by teammates before - "hey can you start pushing/townreading x/y?". It would also explain the sudden massive push on Titus with only a single unexplained vote as precedent. Right now I think I'd prefer to eliminate not Ircher just because I have stronger scumreads (e.g. you).
nice, did your pals tell you that just now?
This whole interaction
You ask an innocuous-looking question, furrtive answers honestly, you go in and try to suggest furrtive got the response from his alleged scumbuddies
Do you not see how duplicitous you look here?
<Embrace The Void>
“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
In post 242, Meuh wrote:
Gamma vaguely looks town? I can see Broccoli town, at the very least I don't think they're scummy enough for me to be interested in a wagon there
VOTE: Titus
Don't think she has any interest in solving the game tbh
I don't see anything towny from GE prior to this post.
In post 242, Meuh wrote:
Gamma vaguely looks town? I can see Broccoli town, at the very least I don't think they're scummy enough for me to be interested in a wagon there
VOTE: Titus
Don't think she has any interest in solving the game tbh
In post 284, Aureal wrote:
*honks in confusion because she doesn't feel a strong differentiation between Ircher's meta dependent on his alignment and his terse play style tends to be read as scummy in general*
Agree with this, Ircher has always seemed scummy to me regardless of alignment. Not really sure what the right approach is.
I kind of think we need a flip at this point? Under the impression that night actions will be meaningful
This seems quite early in the day page-wise, +scum for me.
In post 497, furtiveglance wrote:
Setup: I'll probably just go on reads as usual rather than get too caught up in trying to outguess the mod/fall into setup spec pitfalls that are probably expected.
Broccoli Quest 2 - town.
HighPrincessErinys - town, agreed with a lot of posts here.
Doctor Drew - town by meta and direction of travel (i.e. agrees with my takes)
Hu Tao - town. Liked both streams of posts so far
Theta Alpine - town. A level of depth to posting about reads that I didn't see from scum!Rautherdir in Conception (hope talking about alt metas is ok)
Ircher - unsure. Scum by posts (as ever?) but town by VCA?
Andante - unsure. Not a priority vote at the moment but I am wary of what I saw as a scattergun approach to votes/scumreads.
Gamma Emerald - unsure. Wallflower act is meta typical but harder to read, hopefully GE gets into a more direct discussion at some point soon.
Titus - unsure. Tonally different from scumgame but voting is a little strange.
Aureal - unsure. Tonally seems town and just like past towngames but not packing enough of a punch to be a TR just yet.
Meuh - scum based on posting and voting. I don't get the TRs here at all.
Afrayed Knott - scum. Vote priority urgent.
these were the furtive posts I liked btw
Why did you like them? Is this based on play experience or just because he can put together a good argument. Which you do know is not alignment indicative
In post 520, furtiveglance wrote:
'm wondering whether Ircher was just told by someone while at E-1 "hey can you start hard pushing Titus?". Just a theory, but I'd like to maybe get some comment from Ircher on this - was your initial vote's logic the same as given by Meuh (not solving)? Was there more at the time?
In post 520, furtiveglance wrote:
'm wondering whether Ircher was just told by someone while at E-1 "hey can you start hard pushing Titus?". Just a theory, but I'd like to maybe get some comment from Ircher on this - was your initial vote's logic the same as given by Meuh (not solving)? Was there more at the time?
how hard a theory, or just a fancy?
It's something I've been told as dying scum by teammates before - "hey can you start pushing/townreading x/y?". It would also explain the sudden massive push on Titus with only a single unexplained vote as precedent. Right now I think I'd prefer to eliminate not Ircher just because I have stronger scumreads (e.g. you).
In post 580, furtiveglance wrote:
It's something I've been told as dying scum by teammates before - "hey can you start pushing/townreading x/y?". It would also explain the sudden massive push on Titus with only a single unexplained vote as precedent. Right now I think I'd prefer to eliminate not Ircher just because I have stronger scumreads (e.g. you).
nice, did your pals tell you that just now?
This whole interaction
You ask an innocuous-looking question, furrtive answers honestly, you go in and try to suggest furrtive got the response from his alleged scumbuddies
Do you not see how duplicitous you look here?
Nope, do you know how weak your argument against me looks?
In post 733, Afrayed Knott wrote:
Again, you hang on to a weak reason to vote. And yes I am asking you why I can’t ask questions. You really need to re evaluate your whole approach if that is all your voting is based on, weak accusations that someone is not being genuine.
Again I ask you show me where what I ask is not genuine, or where I am not genuinely engaged in the game. So don’t just point a finger and get all flustered because you can’t actually give an answer to a reasonable question.
I checked my ISO, until my very recent vote on you, my vote had still been on Ircher. So you are not doing yourself any favors by acting like I gave been voting you this entire time.
What do you want? Do you want me to merely point out every single question I have a problem with, or do you want me to try to help you learn how to ask better questions? It really bothers me that your response to me critiquing your habit of asking very basic “why” or “why not” questions is to merely changed your wording. That doesn’t solve anything. Those questions are busywork, both in the sense they look like promising questions but imo rarely lead anywhere useful, and in that the sheer volume of them can bog down a player that bothers to respond to all of them.
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In post 737, Afrayed Knott wrote:
Why did you like them? Is this based on play experience or just because he can put together a good argument. Which you do know is not alignment indicative
Yeag it’s somewhat based on past exp, the other part is I think it just feels natural
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“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
I challenge anyone to tell me Afrayed’s responses to me suggest actual interest in effective sorting. He’s pissed I’ve caught him and trying to subvert me.
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“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
In post 580, furtiveglance wrote:
It's something I've been told as dying scum by teammates before - "hey can you start pushing/townreading x/y?". It would also explain the sudden massive push on Titus with only a single unexplained vote as precedent. Right now I think I'd prefer to eliminate not Ircher just because I have stronger scumreads (e.g. you).
nice, did your pals tell you that just now?
Yeah they said "hey furt your slot is doomed sorry. Can you start pushing Afrayed? I think there's thread appetite there. Also, pushing Meuh would be great. Risk of her becoming TRed so it would be good to prevent that. As for your own slot, scumreading your predecessor always goes down well."
In post 584, Afrayed Knott wrote:
great. I don't have a predecessor? or am I misunderstanding you?
or is this a weak try at sarcasm?
First of all
or is this a weak try at sarcasm?
fucking lole
being serious now, I think I saw more on this in another post but I don’t like how Afrayed reacts to the predecessor thing. Most of his replies are constituted by him taking something said completely incorrectly, in actuality.
<Embrace The Void>
“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
In post 580, furtiveglance wrote:
It's something I've been told as dying scum by teammates before - "hey can you start pushing/townreading x/y?". It would also explain the sudden massive push on Titus with only a single unexplained vote as precedent. Right now I think I'd prefer to eliminate not Ircher just because I have stronger scumreads (e.g. you).
nice, did your pals tell you that just now?
Yeah they said "hey furt your slot is doomed sorry. Can you start pushing Afrayed? I think there's thread appetite there. Also, pushing Meuh would be great. Risk of her becoming TRed so it would be good to prevent that. As for your own slot, scumreading your predecessor always goes down well."
I wonder what these things are? " "
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“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
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