Open 889 | Secrets of the Anuket Topaz | fin.

[gob]

Alright alright I'll put forth effort now

[gob]

honestly not sorry

I think that's how I'm feeling here because while I hate being wrong, camel leaving the game proves Titus was a liability.

What no? What the fuck

[gob]

speaking of which, {jjh927, std, andres, imaginality} are in my poe, i could compromise on {T3, Prism} but i dont think we'll get there

Yeah one of T3 and Prism is definitely scum here

I am inclined to agree.

[Prism]

I tried to derive your reasoning from the wagons and failed. My first theory is that you were clearing clearing Firebringer, Dragons, and Shirou because they were on exactly one of the flipped wagons. Then I realized Firebringer and Ydrasse voted the same way.

I see "1-2 on Alisae, 1-2 off" and "2-3 on Titus, 1-2 off". First off, the second statement is impossible because 2 scum cannot be off Titus while 2 are on. Second, I cannot for the life of me figure out why you are splitting people into the sets that you do.

[gob]

Okay Prism, T3, JJH

Two of you are being tricked by the other.

[Prism]

honestly not sorry

I think that's how I'm feeling here because while I hate being wrong, camel leaving the game proves Titus was a liability.

What no? What the fuck

Titus spent eons telling jjh and myself that camel was obviously town, refusing to explain the read, and that we were just too stubborn and proud to admit she was right. Yes she was a liability.

[Prism]

Okay Prism, T3, JJH

Two of you are being tricked by the other.

You have literally named the three people with the best anti-partner interactions with camel, I'm throwing in the towel, go do whatever and we'll drag you to the finish as best as we can.

[jjh927]

Literally nothing you just posted made any sense, Gob

You may as well have picked out random groups of players and said "these groups may contain mafia". The fact that they're wagons doesn't inherently let you derive any more information if all you do is look at the names in the groups

[gob]

I tried to derive your reasoning from the wagons and failed. My first theory is that you were clearing clearing Firebringer, Dragons, and Shirou because they were on exactly one of the flipped wagons. Then I realized Firebringer and Ydrasse voted the same way.

I see "1-2 on Alisae, 1-2 off" and "2-3 on Titus, 1-2 off". First off, the second statement is impossible because 2 scum cannot be off Titus while 2 are on. Second, I cannot for the life of me figure out why you are splitting people into the sets that you do.

Well I'm just saying 1-2 on and 1-2 off to be 100% accurate.

My own personal read is that Alisae and Titus both had 2 maf on them since they both went to 7.

All my sets are based off the votes. It is based around the principle that mafia do not vote together on every wagon, as they want to distance and cast a wider net on mispushes.
Therefore you can look at who voted where and get separate PoEs, allowing the game to be solved easier.

[gob]

Literally nothing you just posted made any sense, Gob

You may as well have picked out random groups of players and said "these groups may contain mafia". The fact that they're wagons doesn't inherently let you derive any more information if all you do is look at the names in the groups

It literally does though.

[jjh927]

You can't make sense of sense of this without context

All your deductions based on wagons are basically just picking out 6 names and saying "there is probably 1-2 scum in this group". You also say that about the other group

[Andresvmb]

I’m back tonight. Don’t think I can make much of a difference anymore given my low activity, but I’ll admit to having SR’ed Titus while they were alive. The funny thing is, whenever I get that feeling, they tend to flip Town so happy I didn’t push that.

[Andresvmb]

@jjh what are you voting?

[Prism]

Your pools are:

[T3, Prism, imaginality] = 1 mafia
[Andresvmb, jjh927, Ydrasse] = 1 mafia

As a first pass Ydrasse and Firebringer voted the same. I don't know why Fire is excluded. A team of camel, Dragons, and Ydrasse fulfills your criteria, but Dragons isn't in your pools. A team of camel, Shirou, and Andres fulfills your criteria, but Shirou is not in the pools.

This is just wondering why players are excluded on wagonomics, not even getting into why the pools are split into the two configurations.

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: SaveTheDragons

[gob]

You can't make sense of sense of this without context

All your deductions based on wagons are basically just picking out 6 names and saying "there is probably 1-2 scum in this group". You also say that about the other group

The reads are accurate even without context. You obviously need to make reads still and vote within those PoEs though.

Anyway this is not that important. Let's discuss Andresvnmb

[jjh927]

You're also not grounded in this setup and this particular game. You don't understand the assumptions you're making

[Prism]

VOTE: SaveTheDragons

Can you walk us through this vote? Did the flip itself give you any town or scumreads?

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: SaveTheDragons

Can you walk us through this vote? Did the flip itself give you any town or scumreads?

I was an advocate of sheeping Alisae. I have said multiple times now that jjh is Town. I’m sheeping both.

[gob]

VOTE: SaveTheDragons

Do you really think mafia would get put to E-1 right away? Also Save the Dragons did not even vote Titus yesterday.

[jjh927]

Sheeping me feels like a pretty solid town move given andres isn't very engaged but knows my read accuracy

[gob]

You're also not grounded in this setup and this particular game. You don't understand the assumptions you're making

How so? You haven't actually sat down and explained why my reads are wrong btw, you've only just randomly shaded and I've explained why you're wrong every time.

[gob]

Prism and JJH might both be mafia, actually.

[jjh927]

VOTE: SaveTheDragons

Do you really think mafia would get put to E-1 right away? Also Save the Dragons did not even vote Titus yesterday.

Do you still think it is impossible for mafia to be the target of an RVS wagon?

[Firebringer]

speaking of which, {jjh927, std, andres, imaginality} are in my poe, i could compromise on {T3, Prism} but i dont think we'll get there

Yeah one of T3 and Prism is definitely scum here

I am inclined to agree.

i went back and read day 1 and don't think its prism