Mini Normal 2314 - The Mafia Have a Cop [END]

[Nono]

meh what can I say?
believe in vibes,, vibes is intuition, intuition is queen where logic is king)

logic: like hu tao said, vote one of us if there’s 5 and no scum dead,, we’ve tied ourselves together, if scum, we auto lose,, what are you worried about
if town (we are), we’ll hit scum before, almost certain

logic: fypov, if we’re scum,, everyone else is telling the truth, so, what is this setup xD loyal babysitter, half cop, mailmen/neighbour does nothing

intuition: Drew’s claim makes sense, works with concept,, neighbourhoods, chance for fake guilty
all other claims, dubious, isn’t critical

if conservative, scum in una, fire, dan, fl, gert, bulge

intuition: highly doubt gert, top tr, with drew

fl, una, bulge
fire, dan

imo, it’s fire/dan,, if wrong, unlikely to be wrong on both (one bottom, one middle?)
but I’ll take my chances, 1/2 vs 1/3)

VOTE: fire w/e, loyal babysitter vs backup mailman functionality ig

[Flavor Leaf]

why does Fire, as scum, not go for any of the wagons that get presented?

[geraintm]

I hate flavours play.
This game didn't need his extra special efforts.

Town had trapped scum into only a few slots with the claims, or the mason claim is fake and we get them anyways as Nono says.
We just play the odds, whittle down and catch scum.

I still dont quite want to include in my vote pile for today, but they've lost a lot of town equity.

[Flavor Leaf]

I hate flavours play.
This game didn't need his extra special efforts.

Town had trapped scum into only a few slots with the claims, or the mason claim is fake and we get them anyways as Nono says.
We just play the odds, whittle down and catch scum.

I still dont quite want to include in my vote pile for today, but they've lost a lot of town equity.

no reason as it for scum.

all it did is make it more wild.

why do i make myself elss trustworthy as scum

logical thinking please

[Alisae]

Titus replaces The Bulge

[Alisae]

V OTECOUNT 3.4
E LIMINATION V OTES
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES
Firebringer (2)	Hu Tao, Nono
Dannflor (1)	Flavor Leaf
Nono (1)	Doctor Drew
Hu Tao (1)	Titus
UnaBombaH (1)	Firebringer
Flavor Leaf (1)	Dannflor
NOT VOTING: geraintm, UnaBombaH
With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to flip! Deadline: (expired on 2023-11-08 19:03:56)
Notes:

[Flavor Leaf]

this vote count is ridiculous. lol

[Flavor Leaf]

@Titus -

Hu Tao and Nono claimed masons after they were paired up as possible Traitor/Groupscum combo. It’s like 98% sure they’re just masons, but there’s always the possibility that Hu Tao playing a gambit.

Doctor Drew claimed Informed N1 PT Cop N2 Traitor Finder, informed there is a traitor in this game. I think that’s a bit weird to be informed of as a Traitor Finder, but sure. Night 1 Dann is not in a PT. N2 Una is not a Traitor.

Flipped scum Marcistar claimed Loyal Neighborize on Drew, flipped Disloyal Neighborizer. There was some odd stuff because Drew claimed a Mailman first.

Una is essentially confirmed Mailman unless Una/Drew did something wild.

Firebringer claimed Backup Mailman.

Day 1, JJH and I hard pushed Marci until they claimed to be something confirmable. They got to Day 2, jjh dead, Drew, Fire, Hu Tao, Nono all tried to ‘let Marcistar ‘resolve themselves’, I powerdunked Marcistar.

Bulge and I claimed Vanilla.

Drew and Geraint started game in a neighborhood.

Dann claimed Loyal Babysitter.

I went through most of this day phase pushing Bulge, and nobody was doing anything, so i gave up and am in tilt mode.

[Doctor Drew]

I was willing to go Bulge

[Flavor Leaf]

I was willing to go Bulge

yeah, but you were willing to go Nono too. i think we just on the same page here unless you trolling, but i already said im content letting you through if you are scum.

[Doctor Drew]

I was willing to go Bulge

yeah, but you were willing to go Nono too. i think we just on the same page here unless you trolling, but i already said im content letting you through if you are scum.

My gut doesn't believe the masons, and I have not liked Hu Tao's play, so I can support a lim of them.

Right now I either believe you are scum, or you are town really trying hard to piece the parts together, and definitely more so than anyone else. If you are scum here then you are definitely zigging when I thought you would zag.

So as Hu said, ya I will sheep you a bit and follow you. And like you said about me, if you are scum then so being it, congrats.

[Titus]

Hi.

UNVOTE: Whoever

[Flavor Leaf]

if i were scum, id have made this game infinitely harder than i needed to.

[Titus]

Just saw the first page...why the fuck would scum ever use that?

[Titus]

V OTECOUNT 1.15
E LIMINATION V OTES
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES
Dannflor (5)	The Bulge, Nono, geraintm, Hu Tao, Gamma Emerald
The Bulge (4)	Roden, jjh927, Flavor Leaf, Dannflor
geraintm (1)	Doctor Drew
Firebringer (1)	marcistar
Hu Tao (1)	UnaBombaH
Doctor Drew (1)	Firebringer
NOT VOTING:
With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to flip! Deadline: (expired on 2023-10-20 19:33:00)
Notes: if you see any errors in votecounts let me know!

Crackpot theory to here

Dann and FL team

[Nono]

why does Fire, as scum, not go for any of the wagons that get presented?

expressed interest/scumreads, no?

intuition: still townread bulges play,, effort not high but thought processes are sound, thought the same as them, often
vanilla claim at the time, good

jackson did a scum catchup

VOTE: jackson

so true,, and call out first post? fire!anti-partner unlikely
dan!anti-partner too, source: whole iso
if wrong, so sorry, but I’m fighting to save them)

intuition: fl’s play is annoying, but, can’t deny, towny,, hesitation in going for dan today, throughout game,, very tinfoil, they’re scum unwilling to bus before and for today,, was Marci a sacrifice? to test the theory, we go dan

fire also doesn’t go dan, una instead,, partner reads show dan as scum

maybe VOTE: dann better

[Nono]

meh what can I say?
believe in vibes,, vibes is intuition, intuition is queen where logic is king)

logic: like hu tao said, vote one of us if there’s 5 and no scum dead,, we’ve tied ourselves together, if scum, we auto lose,, what are you worried about
if town (we are), we’ll hit scum before, almost certain

logic: fypov, if we’re scum,, everyone else is telling the truth, so, what is this setup xD loyal babysitter, half cop, mailmen/neighbour does nothing

intuition: Drew’s claim makes sense, works with concept,, neighbourhoods, chance for fake guilty
all other claims, dubious, isn’t critical

if conservative, scum in una, fire, dan, fl, gert, bulge

intuition: highly doubt gert, top tr, with drew

fl, una, bulge
fire, dan

imo, it’s fire/dan,, if wrong, unlikely to be wrong on both (one bottom, one middle?)
but I’ll take my chances, 1/2 vs 1/3)

VOTE: fire w/e, loyal babysitter vs backup mailman functionality ig

[Nono]

sorry sorry, delete previous post,,

Just saw the first page...why the fuck would scum ever use that?

townslip??

[Flavor Leaf]

V OTECOUNT 1.15
E LIMINATION V OTES
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES
Dannflor (5)	The Bulge, Nono, geraintm, Hu Tao, Gamma Emerald
The Bulge (4)	Roden, jjh927, Flavor Leaf, Dannflor
geraintm (1)	Doctor Drew
Firebringer (1)	marcistar
Hu Tao (1)	UnaBombaH
Doctor Drew (1)	Firebringer
NOT VOTING:
With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to flip! Deadline: (expired on 2023-10-20 19:33:00)
Notes: if you see any errors in votecounts let me know!

Crackpot theory to here

Dann and FL team

eh, i feel that's a fake headline cover photo for a big magazine

[Titus]

Well, do you townread Dannfloor?

My VCA suggests that marcistar was offered as an alternative to Dannfloor because marcistar role clears people.

[Flavor Leaf]

Well, do you townread Dannfloor?

My VCA suggests that marcistar was offered as an alternative to Dannfloor because marcistar role clears people.

I single handedly stopped Dannfloor wagon from going through.

Marcistar put Dann to E-1.

Only reason Marci didn't die Day 1 is because she claimed a confirmable role.

One of my bigger reasons for town reading Dann slot most of this day phase was due to Marci putting Dann to E-1.

However, Marci did unvote when she 'realized it was E-1' only to put it back, so idk.

I tried to get a Marci fade prior to JJH joining back onto my Gamma push, and we ended on gamma. The Gamma hit was a near miss onto Marci Day 1.

I said multiple times during Day 1 it's probably just Marcistar scum is why the day was weird.

[Flavor Leaf]

So yeah, if I were scum my most likely scum partner is Dann, so that is a decent call out and genuine by Titus who wouldn't have the full game.

I literally have reasons to town read every non Mason this game, and the only thing keeping me from thinking Masons are genuine is the setup spec of it not necessarily working too well without them there as Masons.

[Flavor Leaf]

the masons also have every ability to come after me to fade me for pushing them, but idk if they got the votes, so maybe that's why?

But i think masons, as scum, could push me to a fade here.

Dann's the only one who has pushed me today, and I've gone through almost every player here today and am back at a reset.

[Flavor Leaf]

Drew being okay with Bulge slot here takes out Drew-Bulge team for me, which was one of my main theories. Una i havent looked in too much today, but they also have been playing so weird if scum, and we dont think Una Mailman targets Drew the same night Marcistar does and then have the Marci and Drew have that much confusion over the Mailman message. Just was kinda weird play if scum, so Una probs town.

Firebringer also had many opportunities to fade anyone, but hasnt, and is just kind of there.

I dont think anyone pushing anything this day phase would have looked bad afterwards either.

[Flavor Leaf]

fire, if you're scum, why aren't you going for misfades?