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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:41 am

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In post 169, Lazy Shirou wrote:

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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:45 am

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At first I was kinda excited at the possibility of rolling both mafia and Toriel here and starting the game by scumclaiming for the chaos, but like some people have explained already, I soon realized that Toriel's flip does count towards Mercy/Fight goals (which would make it anti-wincon) and although that makes complete sense to not make sorting Toriel kinda irrelevant, I'm sad that we can't potentially have claimed scum to banter with~

I loved the Pine vs Alisae/Person-I-forgot-the-name series

The concept of having confirmed scum to talk to is pretty fun to me!
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:48 am

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In post 173, Keyleth wrote:
In post 172, Merlyn wrote:
In post 171, Keyleth wrote: After that post from Mandate I feel even more content to vote the mercy route!
This makes no sense to say. I'm not saying I think you're scum for saying it, I haven't decided on you yet. I'm saying it literally makes no sense when it was just spelled out that we go mercy if we think Toriel is town, we don't if we think Toriel is scum. Mandate's thoughts on your shouldn't affect this at all.
I have no reason to not think Dunnstral is town right now, and with the points I gave Mandate it makes me feel even better. All you need is two more to win the game, right? It's easier to find townies then it is to find wolves. At least, to me it is!
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:48 am

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THEREFORE DEAR DUNNSTRAL,

Do know that if you claim scum today, I PROMISE to vote for Mercy rather than Fight no matter what! I'm here with OPEN ARMS willing to SCUM IT UP with you if you're red!

You just gotta say the words!

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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:49 am

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In post 177, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 173, Keyleth wrote:
In post 172, Merlyn wrote:
In post 171, Keyleth wrote: After that post from Mandate I feel even more content to vote the mercy route!
This makes no sense to say. I'm not saying I think you're scum for saying it, I haven't decided on you yet. I'm saying it literally makes no sense when it was just spelled out that we go mercy if we think Toriel is town, we don't if we think Toriel is scum. Mandate's thoughts on your shouldn't affect this at all.
I have no reason to not think Dunnstral is town right now, and with the points I gave Mandate it makes me feel even better. All you need is two more to win the game, right? It's easier to find townies then it is to find wolves. At least, to me it is!
Only nights 1-3 are skipped, the whole game is not nightless. Mafia can kill people before we can spare them.
Oh, I forgot that part. More townreads required then.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:51 am

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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:58 am

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In post 129, Mandate wrote: Do you think it's a normal question when you have two townreads who are generally doing the same thing to ask them what their reads on each other are? Do you think I shouldn't be a little skeptical of that line of questioning, Taly?
yeah i think its incredibly normal to question 2 of my townreads on their read on each other, i do that every fucking game. :igmeou:
In post 133, Merlyn wrote:
In post 56, Taly wrote:
In post 54, Keyleth wrote:
In post 44, Brown Eyes wrote:
In post 33, Dannflor wrote: but also i do not know how useful discussing dunnstral's alignment is since he's getting flipped no matter what
He's the most important to discuss,
because
he's getting flipped no matter what.
Really? I thought the exact opposite!
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Why?

One of the things that gives the most info is a flip and seeing how people interacted with a now confirmed town or scum slot.
i agree but we cant act on this immediately D1
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In post 29, Taly wrote: ;) I'm getting popular

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Is this a joke because there are only three wolves? I think I get it!

Being popular must be nice totally not at all jealous. :shifty:
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In post 41, Taly wrote: Are you new
Keyleth?
Do you always bold usernames? It brings attention to the eyes but is also slightly intimidating. :P

I'm not new to mafia, no! Why do I give off that impression? I've played video mafia and forum mafia before although I saw undertale theme and was like 'omg I have to join this.'
In post 56, Taly wrote:
In post 54, Keyleth wrote:
In post 44, Brown Eyes wrote:
In post 33, Dannflor wrote: but also i do not know how useful discussing dunnstral's alignment is since he's getting flipped no matter what
He's the most important to discuss,
because
he's getting flipped no matter what.
Really? I thought the exact opposite!
Mind melding
In post 61, Taly wrote:
In post 58, Dannflor wrote:
In post 50, Taly wrote:
In post 35, Dannflor wrote: VOTE: taly
I want to know more about this tbh, I thought what I said was pretty mild
saying you town lean toriel just seems like the safest possible thing you could say that can also be classified as game talk

and that is regardless of dunnstral's alignment

do you have thoughts on anyone else so far
Keyleth and Mandate passed the vibe check

Also whats safe here? I don't get how what I said is protective on a game that just began. Much less effective to try and pocket Dunn, hypothetically.
I mean I've sat here looking at this on and off for the last couple hours and I really do think this is just two scum, the way the two of them force an engagement with each other over everything else in thread at this point, the difference in tone from the surrounding commentary on actually game related materials, and the follow up behaviour. It's also worth pointing out that Keyleth in this game uses emojis exactly twice and they are both in these responses to Taly which helps to make that exchange stand out even more from everything else that the two of them have done this game.
In post 167, Mandate wrote: It definitely helps that this is the kind of setup where I fully expect scum to be going full on buddying each other trying to make a pseudo townbloc and that perception of how scum would play the game meshes with both their forced interactions into mutual townread into Taly's fascination with what exactly the read dynamics are between me/Dannflor/Brown Eyes when I don't really think any of that is what he should be thinking about as a town player.
respectfully, give me a break.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:59 am

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Hmm

This game has started off pretty seriously

I think I've an idea of who Mandate may be but I could easily be wrong I guess, I'll try to not let that assumption cloud my judgement

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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:00 am

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to find associatives in the first 5 pages immediately is asinine in most cases, and i dont understand where you're getting your assertions
mandate
, its almost entirely a grief with my playstyle.
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:02 am

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In post 182, Lazy Shirou wrote: Hmm

This game has started off pretty seriously

I think I've an idea of who Mandate may be but I could easily be wrong I guess, I'll try to not let that assumption cloud my judgement

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i kno right? i want to just meme
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:05 am

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hehe guess what im eating

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my health has been a nightmare (physically and mentally) lately, so i gotta treat myself

i turn 25 this Saturday :D
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:05 am

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OH MY GOD THATS A HUGE FUCKING PIC
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:06 am

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In post 183, Taly wrote: to find associatives in the first 5 pages immediately is asinine in most cases, and i dont understand where you're getting your assertions
mandate
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its almost entirely a grief with my playstyle.
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:06 am

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that pic is bigger than my pizza wtf
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:07 am

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In post 187, Lazy Shirou wrote:
In post 183, Taly wrote: to find associatives in the first 5 pages immediately is asinine in most cases, and i dont understand where you're getting your assertions
mandate
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its almost entirely a grief with my playstyle.
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bruh dont come for me im a toucan
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:08 am

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some of us are endangered species
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:09 am

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its strange that you are saying mandate is "griefing" you because doesnt that assume mandate is town?
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:09 am

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In post 185, Taly wrote: i turn 25 this Saturday :D
Oh! Congrats Taly~

I hope whatever you've planned for that day goes well! (even if you don't have anything planned?!)
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:09 am

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no? i dont know what you mean by "grief" either? im meaning hes giving me grief.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:09 am

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like if mandate is mafia and you're town then this wouldn't be a grief it would just be hyper aggression lining up lims and seizing thread control - your lack of any suspicion of this push is kind of ?? to me.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:10 am

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In post 192, Lazy Shirou wrote:
In post 185, Taly wrote: i turn 25 this Saturday :D
Oh! Congrats Taly~

I hope whatever you've planned for that day goes well! (even if you don't have anything planned?!)
finally some decency

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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:10 am

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In post 193, Taly wrote: no? i dont know what you mean by "grief" either? im meaning hes giving me grief.
do you think it's more likely scum grief or town grief though?
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:11 am

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this is the definition of griefing I'm using.

like I don't see how it's griefing if he's mafia because that's just him playing to win condition
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:11 am

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In post 194, Aristeia wrote: like if mandate is mafia and you're town then this wouldn't be a grief it would just be hyper aggression lining up lims and seizing thread control - your lack of any suspicion of this push is kind of ?? to me.
im not without lack actually

i was gonna vote if they didnt drop it

it does seem bad faith me but ive suspended my belief as much as my lost sanity these past few weeks of med changes
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:11 am

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OH I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN

yeah, and i do think
mandate
might be in bad faith but i have counter thoughts
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