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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:09 pm

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In post 691, Meuh wrote:
In post 646, Taly wrote:
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do you actually have reads? i see a lot of explaining on your end that im not getting any defintiive stance from
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Merlyn, Dunn, you, Sakura, also town
Dann, Ari, Shirou, Key, Implo, I've absorbed some of their posting but don't have a good grasp there
Brown Eyes, Alisae and Beeboy exist I think?
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:09 pm

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In post 697, Mandate wrote: It's not that she's the biggest threat if scum it's that I think the only plausible way we actually lose the game is if exactly Sakura and Dunnstral are two scum
You seem to have a lot of confidence yup.
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:09 pm

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I know I'm probably going to just go spare on D3 at this point and I know that if I go spare on D3 I'm probably going to push for Sakura being spared and I don't know how to feel better about that right now

I don't think anyone needs to worry about me, I'm just being a little neurotic
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:10 pm

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In post 691, Meuh wrote:
In post 646, Taly wrote:
meuh
do you actually have reads? i see a lot of explaining on your end that im not getting any defintiive stance from
Mandate hardest town read
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Dann, Ari, Shirou, Key, Implo, I've absorbed some of their posting but don't have a good grasp there
Brown Eyes, Alisae and Beeboy exist I think?
🗞️ bonk

Having a low post count is not a good reason to be suspecting 3 people, and only suspecting those people
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:11 pm

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In post 694, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 684, Taly wrote: do you have a reason for your
dann/ari/beeboy
scumreads that are not PoE
dunn
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for beeboy

Aristeia is having trouble figuring out what to say for reads even when prodded. Am willing to give them time though.

The majority of Dannflor's iso is pushing Keyleth and reevaluating Keyleth. They've garnerd a few townreads but I have to assume they are easily within a range where they could be mafia and making these posts. I am not townreading them after a lot of posts which is something at least.
i have a different perception on
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and i dont think she is struggling to know what to say about her reads. and if she was scum, it would not be this that she is doing.

ill need to read
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myself to see if it aligns with my thoughts

can agree on
dann

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In post 612, Taly wrote:
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i get the impression you're distancing from a stance on me, is that correct?
Not actively but I definitely don't feel especially confident on my read of you. I am still inclined to call you scum bc I don't really buy the reasons I've seen for you as town as much as the bulk of the field and I think there are some reasons to see you as scummy but it's a read with no real confidence whatsoever.
maybe you should find another way to read me then, unless you want to place teeth by that read and wagon me?
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:11 pm

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In post 696, implosion wrote:
In post 612, Taly wrote:
implo
i get the impression you're distancing from a stance on me, is that correct?
Not actively but I definitely don't feel especially confident on my read of you. I am still inclined to call you scum bc I don't really buy the reasons I've seen for you as town as much as the bulk of the field and I think there are some reasons to see you as scummy but it's a read with no real confidence whatsoever.
How about this then. Taly is trying to get people to explain their stances and pushing people then changing their mind and voting elsewhere. Do you see this as scum controlling the thread vs town trying to sort things out?
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:12 pm

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In post 703, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 691, Meuh wrote:
In post 646, Taly wrote:
meuh
do you actually have reads? i see a lot of explaining on your end that im not getting any defintiive stance from
Mandate hardest town read
Merlyn, Dunn, you, Sakura, also town
Dann, Ari, Shirou, Key, Implo, I've absorbed some of their posting but don't have a good grasp there
Brown Eyes, Alisae and Beeboy exist I think?
🗞️ bonk

Having a low post count is not a good reason to be suspecting 3 people, and only suspecting those people
I'm not suspecting them, they're just there. I'm scumreading nobody
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:12 pm

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Somewhat inclined to trust Ari on Sakura.
In post 630, Aristeia wrote: I guess I don't really want to explain why I'm scumreading Taly atp because explaining the read takes away the room for Taly to improve because she would then understand my thought process about what I expect town!taly to be doing.

It's like less than 2 days into the game so I'm fine letting Taly do Taly things.
How meta-based is your read here? Entirely or partially?
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:12 pm

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In post 693, Taly wrote: I know this sounds counterintuitive and this applies to most of the playerlist, but I find it suspicious that there is a lack of scumreads, much less ones that arent consensus.
Mood

I didn't want point that out before though because I was being kinda distrusted and didn't want to be seem as attempting to "break the townblock" or something but it all feels rather shaky to me

Townreads are being given left and right here with relative ease

/shrug
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:12 pm

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In post 675, Aristeia wrote:
In post 673, Taly wrote: ari has this weird fucking knack of kicking my ass into gear but okay
I apologize for making you work hard while I just slack off and sip on champagne I can't help it.
i get why
alisae
favors you from how e works but it has taken me some massive logic leaps in a short span of time to realize this.

but im curious, how do you read
alisae
? and by extension,
beeboy
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:13 pm

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How is alisae and by extension Beeboy a thing, I'm not sure what the connection is here

I have scumreads btw I'm just being kinda cagey
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:13 pm

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I think Mandate's paranoia on me is townie, i mean i already townread them, but this just reinforces it more.
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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:14 pm

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In post 706, Meuh wrote:
In post 703, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 691, Meuh wrote:
In post 646, Taly wrote:
meuh
do you actually have reads? i see a lot of explaining on your end that im not getting any defintiive stance from
Mandate hardest town read
Merlyn, Dunn, you, Sakura, also town
Dann, Ari, Shirou, Key, Implo, I've absorbed some of their posting but don't have a good grasp there
Brown Eyes, Alisae and Beeboy exist I think?
🗞️ bonk

Having a low post count is not a good reason to be suspecting 3 people, and only suspecting those people
I'm not suspecting them, they're just there. I'm scumreading nobody
So your reads are:
Town
also Town
Null
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:14 pm

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In post 709, Taly wrote:
In post 675, Aristeia wrote:
In post 673, Taly wrote: ari has this weird fucking knack of kicking my ass into gear but okay
I apologize for making you work hard while I just slack off and sip on champagne I can't help it.
but im curious, how do you read
alisae
?
Taly, Alisae has barely posted.
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:14 pm

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In post 708, Lazy Shirou wrote:
In post 693, Taly wrote: I know this sounds counterintuitive and this applies to most of the playerlist, but I find it suspicious that there is a lack of scumreads, much less ones that arent consensus.
Mood

I didn't want point that out before though because I was being kinda distrusted and didn't want to be seem as attempting to "break the townblock" or something but it all feels rather shaky to me

Townreads are being given left and right here with relative ease

/shrug
I feel like its important you should have said this when you thought it and I'm wondering if being distrusted is a sufficient reason to have not done it.
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:14 pm

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In post 655, Taly wrote: I should really be resting soon but the premise of my thinking right now is that scum does not have substance but appears to have something that makes logical sense.
I like this post along with the scumread on me, kind of feels like Taly has a vague idea of the place or the way in which scum are playing and is trying to fit someone into it as a puzzle piece, which is how I tend to approach things a lot of the time. (I talk a lot about things "clicking", for me my reasoning for a scumread is often more just that it fits into place rather than some intense feeling on that specific player)
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:15 pm

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In post 712, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 706, Meuh wrote:
In post 703, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 691, Meuh wrote:
In post 646, Taly wrote:
meuh
do you actually have reads? i see a lot of explaining on your end that im not getting any defintiive stance from
Mandate hardest town read
Merlyn, Dunn, you, Sakura, also town
Dann, Ari, Shirou, Key, Implo, I've absorbed some of their posting but don't have a good grasp there
Brown Eyes, Alisae and Beeboy exist I think?
🗞️ bonk

Having a low post count is not a good reason to be suspecting 3 people, and only suspecting those people
I'm not suspecting them, they're just there. I'm scumreading nobody
So your reads are:
Town
also Town
Null
also Null
Yes
The nulls are more "unsorted" than null though
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:15 pm

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In post 714, Taly wrote:
In post 708, Lazy Shirou wrote:
In post 693, Taly wrote: I know this sounds counterintuitive and this applies to most of the playerlist, but I find it suspicious that there is a lack of scumreads, much less ones that arent consensus.
Mood

I didn't want point that out before though because I was being kinda distrusted and didn't want to be seem as attempting to "break the townblock" or something but it all feels rather shaky to me

Townreads are being given left and right here with relative ease

/shrug
I feel like its important you should have said this when you thought it and I'm wondering if being distrusted is a sufficient reason to have not done it.
It is, Alisae can confirm from TM2023

I do very much dislike being distrusted as either alignment
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:15 pm

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In post 713, Lazy Shirou wrote:
In post 709, Taly wrote:
In post 675, Aristeia wrote:
In post 673, Taly wrote: ari has this weird fucking knack of kicking my ass into gear but okay
I apologize for making you work hard while I just slack off and sip on champagne I can't help it.
but im curious, how do you read
alisae
?
Taly, Alisae has barely posted.
they clearly have some sort of knowledge about the others playstyle and mindset for whatever reason
In post 715, Meuh wrote:
In post 655, Taly wrote: I should really be resting soon but the premise of my thinking right now is that scum does not have substance but appears to have something that makes logical sense.
I like this post along with the scumread on me, kind of feels like Taly has a vague idea of the place or the way in which scum are playing and is trying to fit someone into it as a puzzle piece, which is how I tend to approach things a lot of the time. (I talk a lot about things "clicking", for me my reasoning for a scumread is often more just that it fits into place rather than some intense feeling on that specific player)
why not feel inflated by the fact that im wrong on you?

where should my vote be?

where should
shirou's
vote be?
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:16 pm

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In post 718, Taly wrote:
In post 713, Lazy Shirou wrote:
In post 709, Taly wrote:
In post 675, Aristeia wrote:
In post 673, Taly wrote: ari has this weird fucking knack of kicking my ass into gear but okay
I apologize for making you work hard while I just slack off and sip on champagne I can't help it.
but im curious, how do you read
alisae
?
Taly, Alisae has barely posted.
they clearly have some sort of knowledge about the others playstyle and mindset for whatever reason
In post 715, Meuh wrote:
In post 655, Taly wrote: I should really be resting soon but the premise of my thinking right now is that scum does not have substance but appears to have something that makes logical sense.
I like this post along with the scumread on me, kind of feels like Taly has a vague idea of the place or the way in which scum are playing and is trying to fit someone into it as a puzzle piece, which is how I tend to approach things a lot of the time. (I talk a lot about things "clicking", for me my reasoning for a scumread is often more just that it fits into place rather than some intense feeling on that specific player)
why not feel inflated by the fact that im wrong on you?

where should my vote be?

where should
shirou's
vote be?
Somewhere else probably
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:17 pm

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doesnt sound like you have strong belief in your alignment,
meuh
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:18 pm

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VOTE: Dannflor

Let's go Dannflor since I feel there is little interest in beeboy.
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:18 pm

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In post 705, Dunnstral wrote: How about this then. Taly is trying to get people to explain their stances and pushing people then changing their mind and voting elsewhere. Do you see this as scum controlling the thread vs town trying to sort things out?
I kind of view it as someone just enjoying the process of playing mafia either way
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wasn't to me but mandate is extremely town in my eyes.

They have all the right stances at all the right times. The way they're thinking about the game feels right, I liked their opening, I liked the evolution of their taly+keyleth team read, I like the evolution of their stances in general, like, the townread on sakura a page or two ago is good for example
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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:18 pm

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In post 700, Aristeia wrote:
In post 691, Meuh wrote:
In post 646, Taly wrote:
meuh
do you actually have reads? i see a lot of explaining on your end that im not getting any defintiive stance from
Mandate hardest town read
Merlyn, Dunn, you, Sakura, also town
Dann, Ari, Shirou, Key, Implo, I've absorbed some of their posting but don't have a good grasp there
Brown Eyes, Alisae and Beeboy exist I think?
explain the mandate tr plz
Many moments that felt like good, authentic town thought processes!
Mandate has just felt repeatedly like having a town perspective and I feel solid about that :D
I was going to dig up some posts but I think my time is better spent elsewhere
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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:19 pm

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has any of
meuh's
recent posting caught your attention
dunn
?
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