Mini Normal 2314 - The Mafia Have a Cop [END]

[UnaBombaH]

And Boonsky, my old pal..I hope that we can reconcile afterwards too.
If you are actually town here, just remember that I'm rusty as fck boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii........................

Good night!

[geraintm]

Marci does not die on my watch as scum

i believe this

[Firebringer]

I've given reasons all game as to who I think is town or scum. You're making up narratives

if im making up a narrative then it would be easy to disprove by quoting ur own posts to show how i am wrong. my claim is your not doing anything. How am i supposed to show evidence of that if your iso is devoid of it.
do i just link quote all your posts of ur lack of solving.

this is again u trying to throwing others to do things instead of u. If ur town here ur being so god damn lazy.

[Firebringer]

Spoiler: Lists of recent posts by Hua Tao

I think scum is in fire Drew FL now

Think fire should go first

can we just kill Nono and confirm masons today and then deal with the battle royale of the rest of us minus one tomorrow?

Dann should always be on Hu Tao if Nono flips town, forcing Dann to be killed if Hu Tao is to be.

This might be other scum for pushing this nonsense

I don't like how much we are talking about flipping for information. Drew masons and Dann have all been floated for information.

No, I think both 'Masons' have a good chance of flipping scum. If for whatever reason I am incorrect and one of them flips Mason, then in that scenario at least we have a conf town there going forward.

This is scum

VOTE: Dannflor

Been waiting for someone to jump on me for literal days now. Outed scum.

you are making this up

We vote fire or Drew imo

Why?

I see them as most likely scum. Force scum to kill in masons

why does Fire, as scum, not go for any of the wagons that get presented?

expressed interest/scumreads, no?

intuition: still townread bulges play,, effort not high but thought processes are sound, thought the same as them, often
vanilla claim at the time, good

jackson did a scum catchup

VOTE: jackson

so true,, and call out first post? fire!anti-partner unlikely
dan!anti-partner too, source: whole iso
if wrong, so sorry, but I’m fighting to save them)

intuition: fl’s play is annoying, but, can’t deny, towny,, hesitation in going for dan today, throughout game,, very tinfoil, they’re scum unwilling to bus before and for today,, was Marci a sacrifice? to test the theory, we go dan

fire also doesn’t go dan, una instead,, partner reads show dan as scum

maybe VOTE: dann better

I think I want fire first

VOTE: Dannflor

Been waiting for someone to jump on me for literal days now. Outed scum.

you are making this up

We vote fire or Drew imo

I'm thinking fire and drew. Drew has just been sheeping all game

here, reading soon)

Hi, are you cop again?

Therefore, I do believe Nono is the Scum Cop here.

This is not something that a mason says to another mason like this. This is a Traitor wink.

VOTE: Nono

You should get voted out before us if we are playing optimally. I would prefer fire today.
VOTE: fire

Something off about the FL/Dann/drew dynamic though. So I can see 2 scum in that too. Bulge, are you sure you scum read me?

The bulge could get voted just simply voting me after thinking I'm scum after my day 1 trying to save him and my mason claim. Don't have time for things like that as days go forward even if he is town. So include that in my vote pile. Fire, Dann, bulge. Probably scum in that

Who does everyone want to vote today

This is the solving. I didn't add every post in the latest batch of posts but I can tell you the ones I didn't add weren't any sorting or any better. Go ahead and prove my "narrative" wrong.

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Hu Tao

If Fire is scum I can never trust him again, which is apropos since he can never trust me again lol.

[Doctor Drew]

Drew-Fire-Masons, can we fade Una?

I mean, I think the Masons is the correct play here.

But I am not totally against this.

[Hu Tao]

I've given reasons all game as to who I think is town or scum. You're making up narratives

if im making up a narrative then it would be easy to disprove by quoting ur own posts to show how i am wrong. my claim is your not doing anything. How am i supposed to show evidence of that if your iso is devoid of it.
do i just link quote all your posts of ur lack of solving.

this is again u trying to throwing others to do things instead of u. If ur town here ur being so god damn lazy.

Throughout the game I've said who I townread thus leaving a few

[Titus]

Can I have the list of claims again? I feel terrible irl.

[geraintm]

Can I have the list of claims again? I feel terrible irl.

think i've updated this with everything

Hu Tao - Mason
Flavor Leaf - Vanilla
Firebringer - Back up Mailman
Doctor Drew - Informed Night 1 PT Cop (checked Dann, not in private thread), Night 2 Traitor Finder Neighbor (checked Una and clear)
Dannflor - loyal babysitter (Una N1, Drew N2)
Nono - mason
The Bulge - Vanilla
UnaBombaH - mailman (N1 Drew, N2 GEraintm)
Geraint - Neighbor

I believe that is correct

[Titus]

Does Drew have more abilities?

[Dannflor]

firebringer how do u propose this setup works without the masons

[Dannflor]

make it make sense to me

[Dannflor]

i mean marci's negative utility role + a cop + a traitor is definitely worse than 3 goons

but is it that much worse?

i am genuinely asking you here

[Flavor Leaf]

Disloyal neighboriizer is not negative utility if you don’t go down

[Dannflor]

i feel like you should expect to go down in a complex setup as scum

why would you risk clearing people to be neighbors

[Flavor Leaf]

i feel like you should expect to go down in a complex setup as scum

why would you risk clearing people to be neighbors

high risk high reward.

its one of those things that the rest of the scum team should have protected Marci more.

It's still not impossible they gambited with it, pseudo-clearing scumDrew, which is another reason that role can be really good for scum.

Not to mention the possible pocketing plays that could be made with it.

[geraintm]

I have no idea what happened with Marci, there should have been no circumstances they got eliminated. if they did it for big brain play of setting up Drew then good for them, but they were already in a situation where i was strongly town leaning Drew and it would have been hard to get an elimination there, especially as they could haev sat back on "2 Neighbours, lets not go there" (though they didnt know about the masons for sure back then did they?)

[Firebringer]

firebringer how do u propose this setup works without the masons

make it make sense to me

ur barking up the wrong tree here. I already asked flavor this before and I still think this setup doesn't make sense without masons.

I don't particularly care right now on setup wise.
if i was going on setup design i would move back to Unabom or you.

I want Hua Tao to effort here. The way playing is extremely lazy and thats coming from me who is already known as a lazy player.

[UnaBombaH]

Oh, the day is still going.
Are we going to get anyone other than me today?

[Flavor Leaf]

Maybe Hu Tao

[Hu Tao]

Oh, the day is still going.
Are we going to get anyone other than me today?

Fire

[Hu Tao]

firebringer how do u propose this setup works without the masons

make it make sense to me

ur barking up the wrong tree here. I already asked flavor this before and I still think this setup doesn't make sense without masons.

I don't particularly care right now on setup wise.
if i was going on setup design i would move back to Unabom or you.

I want Hua Tao to effort here. The way playing is extremely lazy and thats coming from me who is already known as a lazy player.

My activity is nai at the moment. I cannot post much more than I already am, trying my best.

[Hu Tao]

I don't see una as scum. And for una to be scum fire would have to be scum since he's back up mail man. Correct? There can't be a town mailman and a back up mailman that's scum. So if you scumread una you should scumread fire regardless

[Flavor Leaf]

Fire ain’t it today, who’s your backup?

Why can’t a back up be town to a scum role? I feel like that’s not that uncommon

[Dannflor]

p sure there certainly can be back ups of different alignments