Mini Normal 2314 - The Mafia Have a Cop [END]

[Firebringer]

I don't see una as scum. And for una to be scum fire would have to be scum since he's back up mail man. Correct? There can't be a town mailman and a back up mailman that's scum. So if you scumread una you should scumread fire regardless

good then maybe you should help me buss Una.

also ur posting frequency isnt' my problem. Its the lack of effort into those posts

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Hu Tao

I need Mason paranoia out of the game. If it was just one of them lacking content, then fine, but both of them have nothing.

Only Titus slot, and they get a small pass for a minute, has less content.

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s masons or some combo with Dann as scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

The fact Una says it’s me and dann yet they won’t go on dann means probs Una/Dann.

Personally, I don’t care if Masons end up being town, the right fades ain’t going through with them anyways.

[Titus]

Fire ain’t it today, who’s your backup?

Why can’t a back up be town to a scum role? I feel like that’s not that uncommon

The last time I've seen that was an open.

[Hu Tao]

I don't see una as scum. And for una to be scum fire would have to be scum since he's back up mail man. Correct? There can't be a town mailman and a back up mailman that's scum. So if you scumread una you should scumread fire regardless

good then maybe you should help me buss Una.

also ur posting frequency isnt' my problem. Its the lack of effort into those posts

I think you just aren't reading my posts. I clearly said I don't think it's una.

[Hu Tao]

Cam we get a vc

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s not Fire either

[Hu Tao]

I think there is no way scum don't kill a Mason tonight. Looking at game state if we vote out a scum tomorrow and they haven't killed a Mason. I think they just lose

[Flavor Leaf]

Then choose Dann, Una, or Drew to fade.

If a Mason doesn’t die tonight, you get power faded tomorrow.

[Titus]

Then choose Dann, Una, or Drew to fade.

If a Mason doesn’t die tonight, you get power faded tomorrow.

I'd kinda lean Fire on mech but I am not sure mech is right.

[Doctor Drew]

Then choose Dann, Una, or Drew to fade.

If a Mason doesn’t die tonight, you get power faded tomorrow.

And this is why we fade a 'Mason', don't want that wifom tomorrow if they aren't scum and are not NK'ed

[Flavor Leaf]

Then choose Dann, Una, or Drew to fade.

If a Mason doesn’t die tonight, you get power faded tomorrow.

And this is why we fade a 'Mason', don't want that wifom tomorrow if they aren't scum and are not NK'ed

[Flavor Leaf]

Thing is, if we do hit scum today by fading, then masons are legit cleared

However, if they are scum, it’s just a WIFOM circle

Imo, they looked a lot like scum, and i think Occam’s razor is i just solved the game when i was in a pretty obv town spot and they claimed Mason.

The fact Nono took so long to confirm it, means they were probably waiting in the scenario that Hu Tao wasn’t actually Nono’s traitor they didn’t want to out themselves.

But the Mason claim was insanely convenient

[Flavor Leaf]

here, reading soon)

Hi, are you cop again?

This just looks like a Traitor winking at their group scum Cop, and i can’t shake it.

This was such a safe thing to claim too and wink at it like that.

[Flavor Leaf]

VT x5
Mailman
Backup Mailman
Informed N1 PT Cop N2 Traitor Finder Neighbor
Neighbor
Loyal Babysitter

Disloyal Neighborizer
Maf Role Cop
Traitor

Idk. This works.

[Flavor Leaf]

If it’s legit a Mafia Cop to find Traitor it also works.

Could be Mafia Complex Cop to add the PR finder as well. Or something like that.

Yeah, idk, the setup works without Masons. Low power game overall, but still power.

And I think Loyal is now in Complex tag, so maybe design wise it’s leaning Complex with Loyal modifier + Drew role.

[Flavor Leaf]

Okay, yeah, I’m okay with taking out a Mason today, then if it’s town it leaves

Dann
Titus
FL
Drew
Una
Geraint
Firebringer
Nono or Hu Tao

Dann should always be on Nono or Hu Tao if Mason is real, and then if Dann is scum, they can’t kill conf townie. And if scum wants to kill conf townie if dann is town, they have to get rid of Dann as a misfade

Which means worst case scenario we are

Una
FL
Titus
Drew
Geraint
Firebringer

In a 4-2 scenario.

Yeah, that’s a fine scenario, and we can play that 6.

If Dann doesn’t die, and Nono lives, then it’s indicative of Dann scum, so fade Dann in that day.

In that scenario, worst case Dann flips town, we have one less misfade possibility, then Nono dies next night, and we’re in final 5 with:

FL
Titus
Firebringer
Una
Doctor Drew
Geraint

Minus 1. In a 3-2 scenario.

And you play the game there.

That is worst case scenario going a Mason today, and I almost think I prefer that even if Masons are real?

It gets rid of Mason WIFOM completely, and we get to play the end game still.

[Doctor Drew]

Cam we get a vc

Ali hasn't been online in a bit it seems.

[Alisae]

V OTECOUNT 3.7
E LIMINATION V OTES
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES
Hu Tao (3)	Firebringer, Doctor Drew, Flavor Leaf
Firebringer (2)	Hu Tao, geraintm
UnaBombaH (1)	Dannflor
Dannflor (1)	Nono
NOT VOTING: UnaBombaH, Titus
With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to flip! Deadline: (expired on 2023-11-08 19:03:56)
Notes:

[Hu Tao]

here, reading soon)

Hi, are you cop again?

This just looks like a Traitor winking at their group scum Cop, and i can’t shake it.

This was such a safe thing to claim too and wink at it like that.

This is disingenuous since you know what happened last game

[Hu Tao]

Okay, yeah, I’m okay with taking out a Mason today, then if it’s town it leaves

Dann
Titus
FL
Drew
Una
Geraint
Firebringer
Nono or Hu Tao

Dann should always be on Nono or Hu Tao if Mason is real, and then if Dann is scum, they can’t kill conf townie. And if scum wants to kill conf townie if dann is town, they have to get rid of Dann as a misfade

Which means worst case scenario we are

Una
FL
Titus
Drew
Geraint
Firebringer

In a 4-2 scenario.

Yeah, that’s a fine scenario, and we can play that 6.

If Dann doesn’t die, and Nono lives, then it’s indicative of Dann scum, so fade Dann in that day.

In that scenario, worst case Dann flips town, we have one less misfade possibility, then Nono dies next night, and we’re in final 5 with:

FL
Titus
Firebringer
Una
Doctor Drew
Geraint

Minus 1. In a 3-2 scenario.

And you play the game there.

That is worst case scenario going a Mason today, and I almost think I prefer that even if Masons are real?

It gets rid of Mason WIFOM completely, and we get to play the end game still.

This scenario is literally worst for town. 6 with 2 scum. Rather than the other strategy where it is 5 with 2 scum if we don't hit scum and masons remain.

[Hu Tao]

If you're town and you don't see this I don't know what else to tell any of you

[Flavor Leaf]

here, reading soon)

Hi, are you cop again?

This just looks like a Traitor winking at their group scum Cop, and i can’t shake it.

This was such a safe thing to claim too and wink at it like that.

This is disingenuous since you know what happened last game

This is exactly why it was safe

[Flavor Leaf]

Okay, yeah, I’m okay with taking out a Mason today, then if it’s town it leaves

Dann
Titus
FL
Drew
Una
Geraint
Firebringer
Nono or Hu Tao

Dann should always be on Nono or Hu Tao if Mason is real, and then if Dann is scum, they can’t kill conf townie. And if scum wants to kill conf townie if dann is town, they have to get rid of Dann as a misfade

Which means worst case scenario we are

Una
FL
Titus
Drew
Geraint
Firebringer

In a 4-2 scenario.

Yeah, that’s a fine scenario, and we can play that 6.

If Dann doesn’t die, and Nono lives, then it’s indicative of Dann scum, so fade Dann in that day.

In that scenario, worst case Dann flips town, we have one less misfade possibility, then Nono dies next night, and we’re in final 5 with:

FL
Titus
Firebringer
Una
Doctor Drew
Geraint

Minus 1. In a 3-2 scenario.

And you play the game there.

That is worst case scenario going a Mason today, and I almost think I prefer that even if Masons are real?

It gets rid of Mason WIFOM completely, and we get to play the end game still.

This scenario is literally worst for town. 6 with 2 scum. Rather than the other strategy where it is 5 with 2 scum if we don't hit scum and masons remain.

That’s what a worst case scenario is , yes.

And you arent empathizing with the fact that we feel you could be gambiting.

When do we take care of Masons? You’re asking us to go through on trust when you two have done the absolute least at earning it this game + could be a scum gambit.

Your scenario leads to scenarios where a hypothetical Scum pair of you two will win the game.

If you are town, yes, that’s not what’s happening, but the trust you have built this game is not there for us to go on trust fully